|
Post by René on Jul 9, 2018 22:06:50 GMT
They are all apologizing now. "Sometimes we say dumb shit" (Lewis), "a stupid comment of mine in the emotion" (the Wolff who is back in his sheep's clothes) and "Allison's comment was made in jest".
Only after realizing this was all coming back to them like a boomerang. No class.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 23:35:04 GMT
|
|
|
Post by charleselan on Jul 12, 2018 21:45:27 GMT
Interested to read that my prediction of changes at Mercedes Benz has begun already with some big changes in the technical department. It would appear contrary to some commentators opinion MB are not, and have not, been "sand bagging" this year, I would suggest they are rattled.
|
|
|
Post by chrisb on Jul 13, 2018 5:24:33 GMT
wasn't Team Lotus's motto: In adversity we thrive? and they certainly tried, I guess one of my 'things' in life isn't about how well we cope with the good times it's how we react to the bad times, for some it brings out the 'tiger' in them, others, the logical, others despair, others shrug their shoulders, learn what you can and get on with life, unfortunately for some it brings out crassness
|
|
|
Post by charleselan on Jul 13, 2018 8:16:41 GMT
Here we have "Tonto" Wolff's summation for the recent changes at MB:-
"This is a significant moment for our team and a great opportunity,” Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff said. “We have said many times that you cannot freeze a successful organisation.
"It is a dynamic structure and I am proud that we are able to hand the baton smoothly to the next generation of leaders inside the team."
BS, just like the "only joking" comments après race last Sunday.
|
|
|
Post by Jamie on Jul 13, 2018 11:03:48 GMT
They are all apologizing now. "Sometimes we say dumb shit" (Lewis), "a stupid comment of mine in the emotion" (the Wolff who is back in his sheep's clothes) and "Allison's comment was made in jest". Only after realizing this was all coming back to them like a boomerang. No class. Arn’t many classy individuals in F1 these days I fear 😆 I know there isn’t much love for MB, Tonto and Master Lewis (LH is very hard to warm to) amongst our happy band but their comments were no worse than others have made and intimated in the past. Classless, absolutely but not worthy of lasting judgement in my book. I do hope Ferrari win this year to shake things up a bit but find it hard to root for them as well, all the big 3 could do with being taken down a peg or two. Oh for the return of the true privateer....
|
|
|
Post by René on Jul 13, 2018 20:04:20 GMT
They are all apologizing now. "Sometimes we say dumb shit" (Lewis), "a stupid comment of mine in the emotion" (the Wolff who is back in his sheep's clothes) and "Allison's comment was made in jest". Only after realizing this was all coming back to them like a boomerang. No class. Arn’t many classy individuals in F1 these days I fear 😆 I know there isn’t much love for MB, Tonto and Master Lewis (LH is very hard to warm to) amongst our happy band but their comments were no worse than others have made and intimated in the past. Classless, absolutely but not worthy of lasting judgement in my book. I do hope Ferrari win this year to shake things up a bit but find it hard to root for them as well, all the big 3 could do with being taken down a peg or two. Oh for the return of the true privateer.... I suppose so Jamie. I was just pissed with Lewis and his team after the race. They have been saying for years they would really welcome the competition and now when they get it they are crying like babies. It just wasn't very classy. Anyway, I know Ferrari aren't holy men either and even if they were, that's no guarentee for honesty! They are all sharks.
|
|
|
Post by Jamie on Jul 13, 2018 21:04:05 GMT
Arn’t many classy individuals in F1 these days I fear 😆 I know there isn’t much love for MB, Tonto and Master Lewis (LH is very hard to warm to) amongst our happy band but their comments were no worse than others have made and intimated in the past. Classless, absolutely but not worthy of lasting judgement in my book. I do hope Ferrari win this year to shake things up a bit but find it hard to root for them as well, all the big 3 could do with being taken down a peg or two. Oh for the return of the true privateer.... I suppose so Jamie. I was just pissed with Lewis and his team after the race. They have been saying for years they would really welcome the competition and now when they get it they are crying like babies. It just wasn't very classy. Anyway, I know Ferrari aren't holy men either and even if they were, that's no guarentee for honesty! They are all sharks. How true Rene 😂 Enjoy your holiday and the German race, looking forward to the pictures 😉
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 3:40:22 GMT
They are all apologizing now. "Sometimes we say dumb shit" (Lewis), "a stupid comment of mine in the emotion" (the Wolff who is back in his sheep's clothes) and "Allison's comment was made in jest". Only after realizing this was all coming back to them like a boomerang. No class. Continuing his theme of "saying dumb shit", I heard an interview with Hamilton from the Chequered Flag Hamil-cast, and he still can't pass up the opportunity to have a sly dig at Rosberg. Rosberg must really have got under Hamilton's skin, then taking the wdc and walking away has obviously left a wound that just won't heal.
|
|
|
Post by Jamie on Jul 14, 2018 6:25:44 GMT
That was a damn good move from Nico, retire at that point and always maintain that upper hand. A classy move.
I wish Lewis would knock that off, it’s just not very gentlemanly is it. Nico, on the other hand has praised Lewis in the TV interviews I’ve seen with him in which he comes across as a great bloke now that the pressure cooker atmosphere of F1 is no longer upon him.
I still believe that LH was the superior driver of the two but glad Nico got his world championship, he was certainly no brow beaten number 2.
|
|
|
Post by charleselan on Jul 14, 2018 13:18:50 GMT
Unfortunately the Mighty Hamilton's resentment of Nico winning the 2016 WC shows through, and he appears to lack the good grace and intelligence to let it go. Showing a gracious attitude to his one time friend and team mate would reflect upon him far more than the self entitled and bitter little man he comes across as of now.
From the way I see things he brought the whole scenario upon himself in the first place, from his initial moves of pushing Rosberg off track when they had those early race battles, to the pathetic "mind games" later on. Hamilton has always displayed a temperament problem when teamed with a driver who is prepared to take him on. It is not a unique situation with him as the evidence over many years proves the point.
The low in quality Mercedes Benz management have also helped foster this issue, with their apparent pandering to their "prima maddona" driver.
Nico Rosberg did indeed display sheer class in the way he won the 2016 WC, and then retire. He now exudes class whenever he speaks and acts, a very likeable young man brought up by strong family with the correct values.
|
|
|
Post by chrisb on Jul 14, 2018 16:44:50 GMT
what I like about Nico is that he could have raced in any era and would have been successful, Lewis would not have survived the 50's60's70's and 80's with his attitude and race manners, all my motor racing heroes welcomed competition [or i think they did?] Ascari and anyone, Fangio and Moss, Jimmy with Graham, Mario [with reservations] with Ronnie, Jody and Gilles, Niki and Alain to mention a few, this sums up to me the futility of comparing certain elements of today's racing with yesteryear - because of safety
I liked Nico at Williams and was so disapointed when he didn't win a GP there, a real class act with a great sense of humour and in this instance I DO blame the parents
|
|
|
Post by robmarsh on Jul 14, 2018 17:04:36 GMT
Yep Nico Rosberg is a class act all round, same as his old man.
|
|
|
Post by Jamie on Jul 14, 2018 23:07:10 GMT
I would agree that Nico is a class act........now. Whilst he was locked in to F1 competition I often thought he wasn’t as white as he was painted; he, as well as most of them, was more than capable of petulance and dodgy tactics at times. The way he finished his career was pure class and he went up immeasurably in my eyes. I think more than most the insular, selfish attitude displayed by today’s GP drivers (some more than others) didn’t sit easy with him and the thoroughly nice guy he has reverted to since retiring is his real resting state. I think his 2016 championship has real merit as he pushed himself beyond his limits to achieve it.....having finally achieved his ultimate goal he walked away without a second glance, the satisfaction of winning it once enough for him.....brilliant. However, I don’t think it has more gravitas than Lewis’ titles, just that it took more from the man himself.
I really enjoy his insights on Sky, hope we see more of him on there.
|
|
|
Post by mikael on Jul 15, 2018 12:53:37 GMT
I must admit that, in whatever way, I have a huge admiration for Hamilton - I have a big weak spot for someone with so much natural talent. I can never forget that he was just a hair's breadth from becoming World Champion in his rookie season. Just imagine that ... No matter how well prepared he was, it was astonishing! To be on par with Alonso in his prime - straightaway, basically. And for sure he had Alonso shaken, rattled. And Raikkonen was in his prime too - he had tremendous competition.
For me this impression continues to overshadow anything, no matter what.
And when looking at small details ... During the last four years I have been sitting at "the Esses" at Suzuka; and he (Hamilton) always takes a line that is a bit different from that of everybody else. When it looks right, as it does, something like this, such small details, impresses me boundlessly. In 2014, in the heavy rain, he very clearly took a line completely different from anybody else. Hamilton took the "dry line" (the line everybody used in the dry) while everybody else took a different line, the "wet line", say. In light/moderate rain, the said "wet line" may be the optimal one; but in the heavy rain on that day, the "dry line" looked no more "drenched" than the "wet line", so why not use it? Hamilton's choice looked so obviously right, yet he was apparently the only one who could see it. That impressed me deeply!
For sure, he's much more "streetwise" than not only Rosberg, but basically anyone in F1. I find that this adds greatly to his "entertainment value".
|
|