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Post by Carl on Nov 21, 2017 20:10:17 GMT
So far only beauty, so... the beast! Not your everyday 500!  Rene, Apparently this particular beast was a land speed record car which should have been forbidden access to public roads after crowds of women fainted just hearing its approach. The more delicate ones, after being revived, would faint again as it came into view. Cheers, Carl |
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Post by René on Nov 21, 2017 22:46:16 GMT
Not your everyday 500! Rene, Apparently this particular beast was a land speed record car which should have been forbidden access to public roads after crowds of women fainted at hearing its approach. The more delicate ones, after being revived, would faint again as it came into view. Cheers, Carl What a joy it must have been to sit behind the wheel of that car! |
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Post by René on Nov 21, 2017 22:50:46 GMT
One of the all time greats, 'le professeur' in his 1988 McLaren-Honda MP4/4. Great shot.  (© McLaren Racing Ltd.) |
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Post by René on Nov 22, 2017 18:33:40 GMT
C'mon guys. A beautiful picture of one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen and no comments at all? Another try; Alain in the magnificent Ferrari pictured during the Canadian Grand Prix 1990. The year he should have been crowned champion!  (© Scuderia Ferrari SpA) |
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Post by Jamie on Nov 22, 2017 19:38:52 GMT
Just seen these Rene - magnifique!
Particularly the one in the MP4/4, one of the best looking Grand Prix cars ever.
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Post by Carl on Nov 22, 2017 19:40:50 GMT
Rene,
Alain would surely have been champion that year had he not often had the master control switch turned "off"
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Post by Jamie on Nov 22, 2017 20:03:13 GMT
Rene, Alain would surely have been champion that year had he not often had the master control switch turned "off" Ha, ha, ha.......very observant Carl 👍 |
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Post by René on Nov 22, 2017 22:36:05 GMT
Rene, Alain would surely have been champion that year had he not often had the master control switch turned "off" I think a more serious problem was the fact Mr. Senna had his mental control switch turned off at the start of the Japanese Grand Prix! |
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Post by Carl on Nov 22, 2017 23:56:12 GMT
Rene, Alain would surely have been champion that year had he not often had the master control switch turned "off" I think a more serious problem was the fact Mr. Senna had his mental control switch turned off at the start of the Japanese Grand Prix! Absolutely! Ayrton Senna, with all his immense talent, was a miserable jerk who would rather crash a competitor than race. While I always appreciated his almost mystical skills, his extreme self-serving influenced a generation of young drivers to drive dirty whenever convenient. The documentary film "Senna" is overdone propaganda that falsely portrays both of its main subjects. Alain Prost would have been justified on two occasions to kick Senna's ass. |
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Post by René on Nov 25, 2017 23:41:26 GMT
Time for some more F1 beauty; Team Lotus in the Spa pitlane, June 1965. The 33's of Jim Clark (17) and Mike Spence.  |
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Post by Jamie on Nov 26, 2017 7:22:45 GMT
Time for some more F1 beauty; Team Lotus in the Spa pitlane, June 1965. The 33's of Jim Clark (17) and Mike Spence. Cracker René.....how many times can I hit like 🤔 |
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Post by robmarsh on Nov 26, 2017 9:42:55 GMT
My wife fully supports my motorsport obsession plus my model making obsession. I got her to attend two live Grand Prix and she now watches some of the races with me. Plus when we were first married we used to play slot cars every Sunday evening for two hours with her parents. It was going well until her dad and I used ground effect magnets to win one meeting. There was more noise from the other two than from the whole formula one paddock after the 1978 Swedish GP.
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Post by robmarsh on Nov 26, 2017 9:59:19 GMT
Carl wrote "Alain Prost would have been justified on two occasions to kick Senna's ass" I think after the 1990 Japanese GP Prost had a right to be aggrieved. However, he was not the innocent man in all the Senna/Prost incidents. Portugal 1988 at the end of the first lap he pushed Senna towards the wall before Senna returned the favour. Imola 1989 Senna was blamed by Prost for overtaking before the first corner on the restart in contravention of their pre race agreement. In effect the race was seven laps old and Senna was in front when it was stopped due to Berger's accident so Prost should have moved over in terms of the agreement. Japanese GP 1989 Prost moved over on Senna well before the corner. In fact he would have missed the apex by 30 metres at least. When Senna retook the lead Prost then went to talk to Balestre with the result that Senna was disqualified. Therefore in fairness one cannot just blame Senna. So Carl I cannot agree with your comment "Ayrton Senna, with all his immense talent, was a miserable jerk who would rather crash a competitor than race." I do not exonerate him for his forceful driving but apart from the 1990 Japanese GP he was nowhere near as bad as Schumacher, who twice attempted to drive people off the track when he knew his car could not finish the race in an attempt to win the world champioship. People were carving each other up in the 70s, Hunt/ Andretti, Reggazoni/Stewart,to name a couple, so I don't think all the blame should be laid at Senna's door for the current dirty driving.
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Post by chrisb on Nov 26, 2017 11:07:14 GMT
Rene, that is a magnificent photo, so evocative and beautiful - thank you, the two model cars i own are the Lotus 33 and the 49 of South Africa 68, and that is a wonderful memory - thank you Rene
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Post by chrisb on Nov 26, 2017 11:20:13 GMT
greeting Rob,
I watched Ayrton in F3 against Martin Brundle and he deliberately took Martin out rather than be overtaken, and again at Brands in 1985 when he wouldn't let Keke overtake him and caused the accident and eventually Mansell's victory, but in saying that he wasn't the worst and he certainly wasn't the first
for me Farina will always be the first and the most ruthless - I seem to remember reading about him pushing someone off the road pre-war and that person being killed, but others, Innes Ireland wasn't very forgiving post-Lotus, Lorenzo could be quite 'forceful' see Mexico 1964and the stories of Jarier, Alliot, etc were legendary,
But the worst culprit and for me who introduced 'it is ok to block' - remove or feign innocence was Michael, ironically having actually met and spoken with him in 1995 remembering what a super bloke he was, really nice guy approachable, friendly, funny and my word talented, which to me was the sheer frustration, what he did to Damon and Jacques was unforgivable and has so tarnished what could have been.
the film Senna, is awful, I can't think of a more biased documentary in years -people revere it, I think even Ayrton would have baulked at it's distortion, - what it actually missed is that the more publicised incidents notwithstanding was that Ayrton would test your mettle, to see how good you were or how far you could be pushed
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