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Post by Carl on Jul 3, 2018 3:15:45 GMT
An unusual comment by Dyncas regarding Mark Hughes' race report:
"That illustrated the dilemma for those running at the front. Running new tyres at the conservative pace necessary to keep them alive until the end did not offer enough of a pace advantage over old blistered tyres to make up the pitstop loss. But could the old blistered tyres hang on?" - Mark Hughes
True and well said, but more importantly this illustrates the degradation of racing and a surrender to tyre and pitstop strategies controlled not by drivers but by engineers so far within the recesses of the team garages that they can't even see the track and a tyre company more interested in exposure than endurance. That's not racing...
Drivers are already part way to functioning as video game controllers with limited control. The engineers should design a car and drivers control it.
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Post by robmarsh on Jul 3, 2018 6:53:40 GMT
An unusual comment by Dyncas regarding Mark Hughes' race report: "That illustrated the dilemma for those running at the front. Running new tyres at the conservative pace necessary to keep them alive until the end did not offer enough of a pace advantage over old blistered tyres to make up the pitstop loss. But could the old blistered tyres hang on?" True and well said, but more importantly this illustrates the degradation of racing and a surrender to tyre and pitstop strategies controlled not by drivers but by engineers so far within the recesses of the team garages that they can't even see the track and a tyre company more interested in exposure than endurance. That's not racing... Drivers are already part way to functioning as video game controllers with limited control. The engineers should design a car and drivers control it. I agree Carl. Control by the engineers was proved categorically when the pit wall apologised publicly to LH for screwing up the race. Two things sprung to mind during that broadcast. Firstly the control from the pit wall as you mentioned and secondly that LH cant be that great if he can't think for himself and make his own decisions. He just sits back and then whinges.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 10:55:15 GMT
The vacant pompadour is extraordinarily ignorant but, as indicated by the content, he tweets his ignorance while on the toilet. I now have the vision of the "vacant pompadour" squatting astride what once was a cockpit of a 2018 F1 car tweeting in complete ignorance of all that is serious. .
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 11:01:26 GMT
Excellent post Charles. I think we are very close in our thinking. I didn't mention Briatore because I can't stsnd him. He belongs in the same pen as Ecclestone and Moseley. In fact the only thing that marred yesterday's viewing for me was the sight of the odious little man, now sporting a goatee of all things, on the grid. Thankfully Martin Brundle walked right past him. As you may have noticed Rob, I could not bring myself to mention the individual by name, for had I done so it would have contained something very rude. I loathe the creature in every way possible, a blight that cast its shadow long and unpleasantly across the Formula One scene, along with Ecclestone and Moseley.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 11:15:33 GMT
JC / Rob, interesting comments, as an infrequent guest of French roads as opposed to your daily experiences JC I have found the French car drivers on the whole far more considerate to motorcyclists than the English although near any city in any country nationality goes out of the window and all drivers suddenly become very important people who must have their own way.. Having ridden a motorbike around a lot of Europe [one trip alone encompassed 23 different countries] I would probably put the Germans and Scots [outside of cities] as the most 'road-mannered' I have experienced, and probably the Swiss and the English as the most inconsiderate, although [sorry Rene] the Dutch weren't exactly overly friendly and the Spanish did not impress, whereas the Romanian's did and the Bulgarians didn't - and as for the Italians, I think in any village, road, mountain pass I had more races than anywhere else I have ridden. Scariest was Germany , you'd be minding your own business at a certain speed [3 figures] and whoosh someone would drive past at twice your speed out of nowhere, I think i spent more time 'out of my skin' than anything else, the high speed saloon cars are deadly in their silence, but wonderfully entertaining Chris, Not certain whether you know this but in France there used to be a traffic law that stipulated all traffic on the right had priority; so you could be making good progress on a main road and suddenly a vehicle would pull out in front of you from the right, can you imagine that! It isn't law now thank goodness, but scarily some older French drivers appear unaware of this fact! As an aside from that the thing that really incenses me is that when travelling down one of the many small back roads with not enough room for two cars to pass easily, French drivers are oblivious to this simple to understand concept. They fail to reduce speed and blast past you with two wheels on the grass, expecting you to do the same in the opposite direction. If as one would in the UK, you courteously pull over they blast past without any acknowledgement, ignorant and very rude. One English guy I knew when I lived in Brittany said that he used to drive in the centre of the road and force them to slow, or collide!! I will say that you are correct about their attitude to bikes, far better than in the UK, where everyday you took you life in your hands. The thing with the French is that they are a nation of bikers, from bicycles to motorised bikes, they do respect all two wheeled transportation. JC
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Post by René on Jul 3, 2018 16:08:14 GMT
Hamilton and Vettel are the two best drivers of this generation with Max already following close behind (just lacking experience and maturity) and with the likes of Gasly, Leclerc and I feel also Ocon the quality of the new generation is already secured. F1 suddenly speaks a lot of French again! It is almost looking like the 1960's with the ELF Academy which brought through a whole proliferation of young drivers. Got to hand it to the French they do produce some good racers, which I find surprising considering the terrible driving standards on the public roads. The authorities have just reduced the speed limit on ordinary roads (without central reservations) to 60kph in an attempt at reducing the appalling fatality rate. Total rubbish, speed isn't really the issue, it is the fact that most French drivers have not a clue in how to drive, no one else on the road matters but just themselves. Lovely race outside of a car, with beautiful manners; but in a car they are arrogant; selfish and rude! The same goes for Belgium. They've had quite a few descent racers but driving in Belgium is always more stressful than in the Netherlands or Germany. They have no idea how to drive in traffic, really terrible. The main reason is that Belgians don't have mandatory driving lessons but are allowed to get lessons from their parents or neighbour or whatever. Seriously. Belgian motorways are dangerous. Bad road surface and bad manners.
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Post by René on Jul 3, 2018 16:09:32 GMT
An unusual comment by Dyncas regarding Mark Hughes' race report: "That illustrated the dilemma for those running at the front. Running new tyres at the conservative pace necessary to keep them alive until the end did not offer enough of a pace advantage over old blistered tyres to make up the pitstop loss. But could the old blistered tyres hang on?" - Mark Hughes True and well said, but more importantly this illustrates the degradation of racing and a surrender to tyre and pitstop strategies controlled not by drivers but by engineers so far within the recesses of the team garages that they can't even see the track and a tyre company more interested in exposure than endurance. That's not racing... Drivers are already part way to functioning as video game controllers with limited control. The engineers should design a car and drivers control it. Maybe we should ask Dyncas to join the forum!
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Post by Carl on Jul 3, 2018 16:12:48 GMT
Maybe we should ask Dyncas to join the forum! He's quite rude...
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Post by René on Jul 3, 2018 16:17:45 GMT
Maybe we should ask Dyncas to join the forum! He's quite rude... I know!
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 16:49:01 GMT
Maybe we should ask Dyncas to join the forum! He's quite rude... And all the better for it .
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Post by chrisb on Jul 3, 2018 20:50:54 GMT
funny enough most times I have ridden in Belgium it has been raining but haven't experienced as many problems in any country as I do on England's motorways - the M25 is a standout example and the M1 ain't a lot better, try filtering and you get squeezed into another car - and that is if they see you - always the worst part of any trip is getting down to Kent from Durham, awful just awful - going back is better as I tend to leave Kent around 03:00 and whilst the roads are still busy they aren't so manic
Dyncas sounds interesting, there are a few who do, and many who don't, a number of the astute contributors deserted disquiet and MS before we, the merry band of racers joined forces, Bonedwarf one such example, used to enjoy his insights
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Post by mikael on Jul 4, 2018 3:33:25 GMT
I must confess that, due to the time difference (between Japan and "anywhere else") and due to a "lifestyle" of working long hours, I miss watching many a Grand Prix. Although a poor substitute, I watch the highlights without fail. This was a Grand Prix I would have loved to watch in full length.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:50:18 GMT
Marko had his on from the outset but Horner only had his on for the post race interviews, maybe they are banned in the pit lane during the race . Interestingly Mateschitz himself did not partake in the play act of pseudo Austrian heritage. I somehow find it hard to believe that if Kimi or Hamilton were RB drivers that they would wear said clothing. Kimi and Lewis wouldn't wear that nonsense. Never. Hamilton has worn his sponsors national dress at other races, remember when he turned up in robes at the Bahrain GP. So given the right incentive, I'm sure Lederhosen would equally be sn opportunity for him to express his fashion leadership.
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