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Post by charleselan on Apr 8, 2018 10:58:04 GMT
If the Japanese do a "two fingered" salute then good on them towards the disgrace that is current McLaren. So much for Big Boy Brown and The Amazing Fernando, sack the bl**dy lot of them, I bet Ron is laughing his socks off. Couldn't agree more, the team seems completely lost. They are only all there for the money and the fancy glamour life. Bouiller is no McLaren man, for Zak it's only a hobby and Fernando... I guess he should go to the States. No top team in F1 wants him and he is still good enough to win a championship or two in Indycar. Or.... he should take a serious pay cut and choose for Williams. Hmmm, not sure if that is the best option for Williams though? McLaren and Williams. Who would have thought? What a sad affair to see these two F1 giants fall deeper and deeper. A very good reply if I may say so, which mirrors my own feelings completely. I am, against my better judgement, going to watch the race this afternoon/evening if it doesn't clash with the MotoGP races. I am hoping and praying that Toro Rosso & Honda put it across McLaren, that would be so sweet. How Bouiller has remained in post is an absolute mystery to me, he lucked into a good spell at Enstone, which was none of his doing anyway, and built a "career" on that. Ever since he comes across as the biggest BS merchant that has ever walked the Pit Lane. Big Boy Brown has his fingers in too many pies from what I have seen and isn't right for McLaren in anyway shape or form. He also displays a lack of leadership, none more so than in letting The Magnificent Fernando dictate what engine they should run, and allowing him to run his mouth off when the Honda engine was not up to snuff. A great team player would do that behind closed doors, however we all know that "Teflon" Alonso is no team player, a point proven time and time again. For goodness sake the much maligned Martin Whitaker was more successful than this lot during his tenure. As for Williams, well there are few words that can cover ones feelings here. How the mighty have fallen, but as Niki always said "what goes around, comes around". Never in all their years of "poverty" in the early/mid 1970's have they stooped so low as to have two "drivers" who are undeserved of the seat(s). The only plus is that Robert Kubica has been spared the embarrassment. Like the above with McLaren and its "managers", Paddy Lowe must be the most overrated technical bod in the sports history. Maybe MB knew what they were doing in letting him go so easily, no doubt James Allison was a far better option. |
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Post by Jamie on Apr 8, 2018 17:03:02 GMT
Well done to Ferrari and Vettel, they made monkeys of Merc here. Brilliant job to make the tyres last that long.
It was obvious that Ferrari would change strategy and run to the end and Merc should have told their drivers to push sooner but they were outfoxed by the Marenello boys. Tight at the top though and looks like it’ll be nip and tuck.
Fantastic for Gasly and TR, what a result. Making McLaren look average must be pretty sweet for Honda. I bet it’s got the main Red Bull team thinking as well......
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Post by René on Apr 8, 2018 17:10:18 GMT
Yes, two out of two! Forza Ferrari! But boy, that was close! Let's hope Kimi's mechanic is not too badly hurt.
Fantastic result for Pierre Gasly and TR Honda, just wow! They were a lot faster than the McLarens so that will hurt in Woking.
And not a bad race I must say.
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Post by Carl on Apr 8, 2018 20:27:10 GMT
Full discredit should be shared with Fernando's chief advisor, one of the great colossal fools and romancer of bimbos, Flavio Briatore.  |
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Post by Jamie on Apr 8, 2018 20:38:19 GMT
Full discredit should be shared with Fernando's chief advisor, one of the great colossal fools and romancer of bimbos, Flavio Briatore. Absolutely Carl. Briatore has to be one of the most unpleasant people ever to walk the planet.......I cannot stand the man, if I ever come to power he’d be one of the first against the wall (Mosley and Ecclestone alongside him) 😂 For proof of his odious nature seek out a documentary called ‘The Five Year Plan’ about his and, to a lesser extent, Ecclestone’s time in charge of QPR football club, his unpleasantness comes racing to the surface..... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 20:56:16 GMT
I don't know about full share. I abhor Briatore and and all he represents, but if you ask for example Mark Webber - one of the "good" guys - he will swear by him. This to say that Alonso is old enough and has always been old enough to make hiw own choices, regardless of the quality of advice he may have received by Briatore. Let us not deflect responsibility towards where it seems most facile. F1 is an uncompromising and bullying environment, you won't find missionaries there. There are those who need a "manager" and those, like Vettel for example, who don't. They are all top level sportsmen and are in charge of their own life and career, ultimately.
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Post by Carl on Apr 8, 2018 21:26:49 GMT
When I started recording races far enough in advance to fast forward past boring commercials, I didn't expect I would one day fast forward entire segments of races. When the announcers began to focus almost exclusively on pit strategy (at lap 10!) I began to lose interest. The last several laps were exciting, but Mercedes and Bottas waited too long to prevail against the experienced Vettel and it was a well-deserved victory for Ferrari's number one. Be forewarned: As a curmudgeon, I have every right to be displeased.  I've been surprised that new American broadcaster ESPN would make Leigh Diffey's previous dramatics on NBC seem acceptable, but the producers at Sky TV really should consider tranquilizing David Croft. Poor Martin Brundle knows exactly what's happening in the race but seems bound to forbearance as others descend into Wonderland. When Hamilton and Verstappen made contact, "WHO'S GOT THE PUNCTURE?" was loudly repeated several times although calm appraisal made clear it was Verstappen. When Raikkonen was released too soon, the immediate conclusion was "THE WHEELNUT'S NOT BEEN TIGHTENED!!" when calm appraisal made clear that the wheel itself had not even been fitted. Do all announcers feel they must introduce false dramatic narrative? “Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English).” - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll When Daniel Ricciardo was referred to as "Danny Ric" by Paul di Resta (Pauly Dee?), it simply sounded silly. While ovals are less interesting than road courses, yesterday's IndyCar race at Phoenix was overall a more exciting race because the cars can get close without losing nearly as much downforce. The only downside was Leigh Diffey's overdone theatrics being moved by NBC to IndyCar broadcasts. |
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Post by Carl on Apr 8, 2018 21:30:36 GMT
I don't know about full share. I abhor Briatore and and all he represents, but if you ask for example Mark Webber - one of the "good" guys - he will swear by him. This to say that Alonso is old enough and has always been old enough to make hiw own choices, regardless of the quality of advice he may have received by Briatore. Let us not deflect responsibility towards where it seems most facile. F1 is an uncompromising and bullying environment, you won't find missionaries there. There are those who need a "manager" and those, like Vettel for example, who don't. They are all top level sportsmen and are in charge of their own life and career, ultimately. My idea was to share discredit. I'm beginning to wonder if Alonso may not be entirely smart enough to decide for himself. |
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Post by Jamie on Apr 8, 2018 21:32:19 GMT
Indeed Lucio, these drivers have their own minds and make their own decisions as well as choose their own representation. Alonso, great driver though he is, has not done terribly well on either of these points.
Briatore, for reasons within and outside motorsport, remains a loathsome character. God knows what Marc sees in him but I suppose even Flávio must have some good points😂
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Post by Carl on Apr 9, 2018 0:08:33 GMT
Indeed Lucio, these drivers have their own minds and make their own decisions as well as choose their own representation. Alonso, great driver though he is, has not done terribly well on either of these points. Briatore, for reasons within and outside motorsport, remains a loathsome character. God knows what Marc sees in him but I suppose even Flávio must have some good points😂 I agree that he must have good points Jamie, but why does he hide them so well?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 6:38:27 GMT
That's cool, gents. Couldn't reply. Just after I posted I run into problems with my home laptop, which I hope I can fix soon.
Briatore is quite an unlikable character, but F1 has been and still is so much awash of money that it naturally attracts such characters. Heavy Italian accent doesn't help however... |
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Post by robmarsh on Apr 9, 2018 6:54:06 GMT
Or Flavio's new face
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Post by Carl on Apr 9, 2018 7:05:59 GMT
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Post by charleselan on Apr 9, 2018 8:30:44 GMT
A repulsive individual if ever there was one; and vanity in an ageing man is a very poor trait.
No doubt honest Mark sticks with him because Flabio makes him lots of money, it is amazing how that can compensate for a lack of integrity.
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Post by robmarsh on Apr 9, 2018 8:38:56 GMT
A repulsive individual if ever there was one; and vanity in an ageing man is a very poor trait. No doubt honest Mark sticks with him because Flabio makes him lots of money, it is amazing how that can compensate for a lack of integrity. Never a more true word spoken John Charles. Actually following the Australian cricket fiasco and the attempts at cover up and also only finding three people guilty my estimation of Aussie integrity is at an all time low. |
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