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Post by René on Feb 14, 2024 10:40:59 GMT
The new McLaren MCL38. Can McLaren take that next step and become a regular race winner again?    |
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Post by René on Feb 14, 2024 10:44:52 GMT
And another big launch today, the Mercedes W15. I like the silver nose on the black car.    |
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 14, 2024 12:34:18 GMT
There are probably more people watching the Ferrari shakedown than you get at the desert GPs! There probably are! And what always strikes me is the amount of young people standing along the track. Some not even twenty years old. They have never seen Schumacher in a Ferrari and probably don't even really remember Räïkkönen. They have never seen a Ferrari driver become world champion! And yet support the Scuderia with full passion.  We were like that at one stage I guess Rene. |
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Post by René on Feb 14, 2024 16:06:43 GMT
There probably are! And what always strikes me is the amount of young people standing along the track. Some not even twenty years old. They have never seen Schumacher in a Ferrari and probably don't even really remember Räïkkönen. They have never seen a Ferrari driver become world champion! And yet support the Scuderia with full passion. We were like that at one stage I guess Rene. Yep.  |
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Post by Carl on Feb 14, 2024 17:23:55 GMT
The apparent styling trend of semi-flush wheels reminds me of Indycar in the early 90s
The talented and obstinate AJ Foyt 
Rick Mears Penske PC20  |
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Post by mikael on Feb 14, 2024 18:11:23 GMT
When thinking about the returning point on the size of the F1 cars - and also inspired by Carl's post on the Indy Cars of the 90's - I though about the fact that traditionally, Indy Cars used to be a good deal larger that F1 cars. On a related search, I came across the photo below, showing a driver named Bruce Walkup by Indy 500 in 1970. This might have been the first example of a formula car with a "halo"!(?)
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Post by René on Feb 14, 2024 19:00:52 GMT
I can only conclude that Indycar was way ahead of Formula One.  In the meantime… Max giving the Red Bull a shakedown at Silverstone. Would Christian Horny have been present?  |
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Post by Carl on Feb 14, 2024 19:50:34 GMT
When thinking about the returning point on the size of the F1 cars - and also inspired by Carl's post on the Indy Cars of the 90's - I though about the fact that traditionally, Indy Cars used to be a good deal larger that F1 cars. On a related search, I came across the photo below, showing a driver named Bruce Walkup by Indy 500 in 1970. This might have been the first example of a formula car with a "halo"!(?)
A link: I recognize the name. Bruce Walkup was very successful in USAC (United States Auto Club) Sprint Cars, where he most likely became comfortable having a rollcage. USAC, founded in 1955, sanctioned Indycar races for four decades and still sanctions dirt track oval races throughout America.
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Post by René on Feb 15, 2024 20:22:03 GMT
The reigning champions; Red Bull RB20. Impressive.    |
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 16, 2024 9:15:48 GMT
Wow, looks very impressive and sharp. More angular than the other teams which I like. Looks like it is a year ahead, like the BT52 was to the other cars in 1983.
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Post by René on Feb 16, 2024 16:32:24 GMT
Wow, looks very impressive and sharp. More angular than the other teams which I like. Looks like it is a year ahead, like the BT52 was to the other cars in 1983. It does look sharp and different. But only the stopwatch will tell if it is as fast as it looks. Even the brilliant Newey missed the mark a few times… time will tell. It is interesting though that they used quite a few design elements that Mercedes had on their zero pod car… and abandoned.  |
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Post by René on Feb 16, 2024 20:18:14 GMT
At the presentation of the RB20, everything seemed to be in order again. Horner, Newey, Wache, all the top people seemed confident and calm. But now the news breaks here that doesn't sound good for Horner.
De Telegraaf newspaper reports that it most definitely concerns sexual misconduct. Horner is said to have sent sexually explicit messages to a female Red Bull employee over a longer period of time. The newspaper states that all messages have been saved and sent via the employee's lawyer to the external lawyer engaged.
According to the publication, Horner would have done everything he could to cover up the matter. A settlement of 650,000 pounds (760,000 euros) was proposed, it was reported.
And now the response from Ford (Red Bull’s future engine partner): “We are a family business with high standards of conduct and integrity. And we expect the same from our partners," Ford Performance Motorsport CEO Mark Rushbrook said in a statement.
Seems very unlikely now that Horner will be on the pit wall in Bahrain.
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 17, 2024 9:42:45 GMT
If it is true about Horner then he is a bloody idiot and deserves what he gets.
It is time that people in the public spotlight eg sports stars, politicians, film stars etc realise that they have become role models and that therefore they should behave accordingly and with honesty and integrity. It is the public that elevates them to that position and they should respect that in their behaviour.
Being rich and famous does not give you the right to abuse that position by behaving without respect to others. In fact as a leader one should set a good example and not take advantage of a position of power.
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Post by chrisb on Feb 17, 2024 10:05:00 GMT
That if true is really one of the most stupid things to do, risking his marriage, his family, his career and livelihood, As CH has never come across very well even when racing F3000 for me I can't see him getting much in the way of being supported
on other notes, a Sxy advert for F1 said it all to me, what and who was the first person shown? Lewis? Verstappen or Teflonso? no, David Beckham an ex footballer who made millions of dollars - for what I am not quite sure- in the grid walk, yeah,
As I am ageing rapidly I am unsure if we have done this before but the pre-war Mercs were mighty in length and breath, ok extremely skinny tyres and horrendous power made them extremely exciting and my question is how do they compare in length to todays cars?
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Post by René on Feb 17, 2024 21:07:44 GMT
Yes I agree, if true, it is very stupid. No one is holier than the pope and we all make mistakes but this is stupid. Chris, the pre war cars were large but not as large as contemporary cars. A quick search learns that the 1938-39 Mercedes W154 has a total length of 4.600mm (181,120 in). 2023 cars are 1000mm longer!  |
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