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Post by René on Mar 2, 2023 17:42:16 GMT
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Post by chrisb on Mar 3, 2023 16:31:33 GMT
yeah! such mouthwatering circuits actually seems to be a bit unfair on F1 as F1 lines up in Bahrain and Saudi amongst others and Indycars doesn't have to.......
hopefully u-tube will carry on showing the highlights and fingers crossed that this year my man Jack actually gets nearer the front, he certainly is saying strong things about the season ahead so maybe he knows something we definitely don't,
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Post by Carl on Mar 3, 2023 17:16:18 GMT
AJ Foyt Racing: Santino Ferrucci, Benjamin Pedersen Andretti Autosport: Devlin DeFrancesco, Romain Grosjean, Colton Herta, Kyle Kirkwood Arrow McLaren: Pato O’Ward, Felix Rosenqvist, Alexander Rossi Chip Ganassi Racing: Marcus Armstrong/Takuma Sato, Scott Dixon, Marcus Ericsson, Alex Palou Dale Coyne Racing: David Malukas, Sting Ray Robb Ed Carpenter Racing: Conor Daly, Rinus VeeKay Juncos Hollinger Racing: Agustin Canapino, Callum Ilott Meyer Shank Racing: Helio Castroneves, Simon Pagenaud Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing: Jack Harvey, Christian Lundgaard, Graham Rahal Team Penske: Scott McLaughlin, Josef Newgarden, Will Power A lot of familiar faces and awesome talent alongside newcomers, some with talent and actual potential, a few possibly with more money than skill. Several not listed are entered only for the Indy 500, others only for oval tracks with a road course specialist teammate at other races. One year at Monaco, while Stirling Moss and another top driver were waiting for the start of the next practice session, they were approached by a pair of elderly ladies crossing a street who, upon learning everyone was practicing for the race, asked why they couldn't practice somewhere less disruptive to their usual leisurely afternoons. At St. Petersburg, the commercial interests have succeeded in condensing all practice and qualifying into one afternoon, better for business but too late to please any Monegasque matriarchs  |
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Post by Carl on Mar 5, 2023 5:08:06 GMT
1. John Redding (82) Team Lotus Type 38, although astonishingly fast, was disqualifed after accessing the adjacent airport and taking off at high speed in his race car on a northeast heading.
The remaining drivers all qualified within 1.5 seconds of the official pole speed
2. Romain Grosjean (28), Andretti Autosport Honda Pole time: 59.553 3. Colton Herta (26), Andretti Autosport Honda 4. Pato O’Ward (5), Arrow McLaren Chevrolet 5. Marcus Ericsson (8), Chip Ganassi Racing Honda 6. Kyle Kirkwood (27), Andretti Autosport Honda 7. Scott McLaughlin (3), Team Penske Chevrolet 8. Alex Palou (10), Chip Ganassi Racing Honda 9. Felix Rosenqvist (6), Arrow McLaren Chevrolet 10. Scott Dixon (9), Chip Ganassi Racing Honda 11. Will Power (12), Team Penske Chevrolet 12. Christian Lundgaard (45), Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda 14. Alexander Rossi (7), Arrow McLaren Chevrolet 13. Marcus Armstrong (11), Chip Ganassi Racing Honda 14. Josef Newgarden (2), Team Penske Chevrolet 15. Helio Castroneves (06), Meyer Shank Racing Honda 16. David Malukas (18), Dale Coyne Racing/HMD Motorsports Honda 17. Santino Ferrucci (14), A.J. Foyt Racing Chevrolet 18. Devlin DeFrancesco (29), Andretti Steinbrenner Autosport Honda 19. Jack Harvey (30), Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda 20. Graham Rahal (15), Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda 21. Agustin Canopino (78), Juncos Hollinger Racing Chevrolet 22. Callum Ilott (77), Juncos Hollinger Racing Chevrolet 23. Sting Ray Robb (51), Dale Coyne Racing/Rick Ware Racing Honda 24. Rinus Veekay (21), Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet 25. Simon Pagenaud (60), Meyer Shank Racing Honda 26. Conor Daly (20), Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet 27. Benjamin Pederson (55), A.J. Foyt Racing Chevrolet |
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Post by René on Mar 5, 2023 10:54:11 GMT
1. John Redding (82) Team Lotus Type 38, although astonishingly fast, was disqualifed after accessing the adjacent airport and taking off at high speed in his race car on a northeast heading. Fantastic!   Also some nice driving by Romain! Strong start for Andretti and slow start for Penske!  |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 5, 2023 11:54:26 GMT
excellent Carl, the 38 was a beast and I will have to check but was Jimmy the only driver who won the Indy500 in it?
looks like a great qualifying, my man Jack reports a sticking throttle and a major disappointment as he felt he had the speed to contest at the front end, but well done Romain and the young guns - should be a cracking race
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Post by Carl on Mar 6, 2023 1:03:05 GMT
The race in St. Petersburg was a debacle with an abundance of stupid maneuvers when cool heads were needed.
Adding to the melee may have been inadequate tyres. While drivers are required to use both dry compounds during a race, a harder primary and softer alternate, the alternate degraded too fast and made offline marble buildup worse.
Amazingly, the first lap destruction derby at Turn 3 was started by Scott Dixon! When Devlin Defrancesco was rammed amidships and sent high into the air, the crowd's fear was audible.
I hope Jack Harvey recovers after being shaken up pretty badly in another crash, this one caused by Josef Newgarden who, like Dixon, seldom makes mistakes. Will Power, who seldom does not, may have felt obliged to punt Colton Herta into the tyre barrier and out of the race.
Although risky moves for the lead are understandable, Scott McLaughlin was at fault in the final collision, robbing Romain Grosjean of almost certain victory.
Patricio O'Ward was the victim of a plenum malfunction that momentarily reduced power and allowed Marcus Ericsson by with three laps remaining.
Has the recent political comedy of errors in Florida spread into motor sport?
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Post by René on Mar 6, 2023 11:23:58 GMT
The race in St. Petersburg was a debacle with an abundance of stupid maneuvers when cool heads were needed. Excellent race report Carl. Sums it up perfectly! A shame Romain was punched out as he deserved the win but at least we didn't know who was going to win it until the last lap... unlike the F1 parade. Congrats to Marcus Ericsson. ... this one caused by Josef Newgarden who, like Dixon, seldom makes mistakes. Will Power, who seldom does not, may have felt obliged to punt Colton Herta into the tyre barrier and out of the race.  .. that made me laugh! Has the recent political comedy of errors in Florida spread into motor sport? Carl, my wife drew my attention to an article about CPAC the other day. Just unbelievable what is being said and claimed there. Total madness and evil has taken over in the GOP and everyone seems fine with it. And every time you think it can't get any worse, the opposite is true and even more extreme ideas are floated. Nasty and dangerous! |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 8, 2023 9:13:56 GMT
having now watched the 30 minute highlights what a race, full of incidents and stupidity mingled with some great driving, cars sounding like racing cars and a proper circuit. I may not like the bubble around the cockpit I do so prefer it to the as JC described it the toilet seat of F1, and quite frankly given two of the accidents it may have proved its worth, a good win for someone who was described as an F1 journeyman, and a sickener for several other drivers, one thing is certain we are heading towards a really interesting Indycar season, not sure the same can be said of F1 after their first race, hopefully I am proven wrong about F1
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Post by René on Mar 29, 2023 14:26:35 GMT
Texas Motor Speedway
 The second race of the season on the high-speed Texas oval. After the many crashes in St. Pete, this is another track where things have gone wrong more often. Scott Dixon and Josef Newgarden have won here the most in the recent past and Pato O'Ward won his first IndyCar race here in 2021. It's for the American style racing enthusiast only but the races on the Texas oval are usually spectacular. 
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Post by chrisb on Mar 29, 2023 16:34:14 GMT
I would have loved to have driven on an oval as the experience must be awesome, and certainly one that requires an awful lot of bravery -
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Post by Carl on Mar 29, 2023 18:21:53 GMT
To many Americans, big ovals are a distortion of the true American style of smaller dirt tracks derived naturally from thoroughbred horse racing. When it was built, Indianapolis Motor Speedway was identical in concept to Brooklands in England, a high speed test track to improve automobile reliability. Soon, the big manufacturers had their own test tracks and the brickyard was entirely a venue for speed contests. While Brooklands had been heavily damaged by German air raids in WW2, Indianapolis was resurrected postwar by the grandson of German immigrants, Anton Hulman, Jr. Deutschland vor allen anderen.  Meanwhile, short track driver and entrepreneur Bill France moved south to be close to Daytona Beach and the compacted sand on which many land speed records had been set. Founding NASCAR as a kind of union to protect drivers against unscrupulous promoters, after he envisioned and built the first high-banked super speedway, "Big Bill" modified his principles and NASCAR became a gold mine for the France family. It's become clear, on a global scale, that less is more, a difficult concept within capitalism. Essentially, big ovals are aberrations allowing more people to fill more grandstands and spend more money, an approach still honored in Texas. Steeply banked Texas Motor Speedway, where the winning driver wears a cowboy hat and shoots replica six-guns on the podium, is relatively safe for stock cars, but scary fast for Indycar. |
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Post by Carl on Mar 29, 2023 18:25:23 GMT
I would have loved to have driven on an oval as the experience must be awesome, and certainly one that requires an awful lot of bravery - Chris, My guess is that you're right about the experience being awesome, but only at dangerous speeds. At lower speeds, it wouldn't be a challenge. On the one hand, the almost fearless Chris Amon would not race at Indianapolis. On the other hand, to everyone's astonishment, on a rainy day in 1967 Jochen Rindt drove one or two laps after practice had been suspended, exiting Turn 4 in perfect four-wheel drifts. Cheers, Carl |
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Post by René on Mar 29, 2023 18:47:17 GMT
I would have loved to have driven on an oval as the experience must be awesome, and certainly one that requires an awful lot of bravery - Chris, My guess is that you're right about the experience being awesome, but only at dangerous speeds. At lower speeds, it wouldn't be a challenge. On the one hand, the almost fearless Chris Amon would not race at Indianapolis. On the other hand, to everyone's astonishment, on a rainy day in 1967 Jochen Rindt drove one or two laps after practice had been suspended, exiting Turn 4 in perfect four-wheel drifts. Cheers, Carl I would still be happy to have a go at low speed without the challenge, just to see it from a driver’s perspective.  |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 29, 2023 20:41:47 GMT
oh no if I were to have done this it would be at reasonably high speed. so much more fun
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