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Post by robmarsh on May 20, 2021 7:52:43 GMT
Yep Nico is a very clever individual and his own man. What he did to leave Mercedes as and when he did took a lot of courage and was also very clever. Most people would have stayed on in an organisation after a year like that, thinking it would be expected of them to stay. By leaving Rosberg denied Hamilton the chance of vengeance and also showed that his family was more important to him than the might of Mercedes. He also is big enough not to hold grudges. He beat LH fair and square that year using all the assets at his disposal. something the Hamilton fan club have yet to acknowledge.
To answer your question Carl, Nico said something along the lines of "Max will need to learn how difficult it is to beat LH" Max took umbrage at this.
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Post by René on May 20, 2021 11:52:12 GMT
It's looking very close after FP1! Disappointment for home boy Charles Leclerc who had a gearbox issue and hardly any running but Carlos Sainz was flying. Only Perez was faster but he was running on the softs (like Gasly who finished 4th). Sainz and Verstappen and the Mercs ran on the mediums. Only FP1 of course but the first signs are not bad. I do hope Charles's Monaco woes stop soon though! He could be mighty here if all runs well.
I like the McLaren in the Gulf livery!
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Post by René on May 20, 2021 14:07:11 GMT
Whooah! Game on! Forza Ferrari!
I know, only FP2 but Ferrari is back in the game!
Charles was flying, must be that Louis Chiron tribute on his helmet! And Carlos looks very confident in the Ferrari.
Monegasque Louis Chiron on his way to victory in 1931. Can Charles Leclerc make it another home win in 2021?
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Post by robmarsh on May 20, 2021 14:40:56 GMT
Dare to hope. Both drivers seem very quietly confident and the team has been very matter of fact going about it's business this year. War of words between Red Bull and Mercedes starting to heat up. Love the McLaren Livery, it would be great if they kept it for the rest of the year.
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Post by mikael on May 20, 2021 17:37:06 GMT
The blue-orange Gulf livery does indeed look good! Hopefully extensive media coverage will convince McLaren and Gulf to keep those colours for the remainder of the season.
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Post by mikael on May 20, 2021 17:43:42 GMT
On another note, it's almost grotesque how far the drivers are apart when one sits on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel, as in the photo. Like a truck, indeed ... Yes, they can safely remove their face masks; social distancing is satisfied in abundance 
Again: hopefully we'll see a remedy of this by the new formula next year!
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Post by charleselan on May 20, 2021 19:02:47 GMT
Unfortunately I was out for the afternoon so missed the FP1 & 2 and so far there look to be some interesting developments. The Ferrari's certainly appear quick which was surprise to me as I did not think they were quite "there" yet, but as some keyboard sages on other sites are too keen to add, "another day to go when Max & Lewis will be back at the front". Hope not and we at last get to see some real changes. Charles was always going to be quick anyway, his talent alone would make up for some short comings at a place like Monaco; and it great to see Carlos really flying as many of us thought he would. A Ferrari one two would be absolute perfection, and I am not a Tifosi . The McLaren Gulf livery looks striking but I actually prefer the old traditional orange, and preferably not matt! What is going on with George barely quicker than his team mate; I wonder if Wolff is playing mind games with him and there is some chatter that Ocon might be in line for returning to MB next year. |
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Post by René on May 21, 2021 12:31:49 GMT
On another note, it's almost grotesque how far the drivers are apart when one sits on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel, as in the photo. Like a truck, indeed ... Yes, they can safely remove their face masks; social distancing is satisfied in abundance Again: hopefully we'll see a remedy of this by the new formula next year!
It is grotesque Mikael, you can almost fit a pre-hybrid car between them!
After JC's latest model car purchase of the Ferrari SF90, I was inspired and added the same car (at scale 1:18) to my collection.  It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous!
On a positive note, it also stands out how sophisticated in design and construction a modern car is. So much detail and so perfectly build it makes the older cars (certainly the 70's and 80's cars) look simple. Not less impressive but just very basic. And I'm talking about the real cars, not the quality of the model cars.
If the size will improve (= decrease) next year I am not sure. On some of the preview renderings the cars look more compact but they're going to use the same powertrains. And these are one of the reasons the cars are this long. I know they're going to be heavier due to the new 18" wheels...
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Post by René on May 21, 2021 12:38:17 GMT
Unfortunately I was out for the afternoon so missed the FP1 & 2 and so far there look to be some interesting developments. The Ferrari's certainly appear quick which was surprise to me as I did not think they were quite "there" yet, but as some keyboard sages on other sites are too keen to add, "another day to go when Max & Lewis will be back at the front". Hope not and we at last get to see some real changes. Charles was always going to be quick anyway, his talent alone would make up for some short comings at a place like Monaco; and it great to see Carlos really flying as many of us thought he would. A Ferrari one two would be absolute perfection, and I am not a Tifosi . The McLaren Gulf livery looks striking but I actually prefer the old traditional orange, and preferably not matt! What is going on with George barely quicker than his team mate; I wonder if Wolff is playing mind games with him and there is some chatter that Ocon might be in line for returning to MB next year.
Ferrari's pace is genuine, no question. If it's enough to put it on pole tomorrow, only time will tell. But you could see the car handles really well and gives the drivers confidence. But yeah, maybe MB and RB have something extra tomorrow. But it won't be by much and the red cars will be in the mix.
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Post by charleselan on May 21, 2021 15:33:30 GMT
On another note, it's almost grotesque how far the drivers are apart when one sits on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel, as in the photo. Like a truck, indeed ... Yes, they can safely remove their face masks; social distancing is satisfied in abundance Again: hopefully we'll see a remedy of this by the new formula next year!
It is grotesque Mikael, you can almost fit a pre-hybrid car between them!
After JC's latest model car purchase of the Ferrari SF90, I was inspired and added the same car (at scale 1:18) to my collection. It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous!
On a positive note, it also stands out how sophisticated in design and construction a modern car is. So much detail and so perfectly build it makes the older cars (certainly the 70's and 80's cars) look simple. Not less impressive but just very basic. And I'm talking about the real cars, not the quality of the model cars.
If the size will improve (= decrease) next year I am not sure. On some of the preview renderings the cars look more compact but they're going to use the same powertrains. And these are one of the reasons the cars are this long. I know they're going to be heavier due to the new 18" wheels...
The big difference is that in the 1970/80's they did not have the money and technology thrown at them, it is a completely alien world now to back then. In those days it was engineering, and today it is "space age +". I am not surprised to hear that you have bought a 1/18th scale model of the 2019 SF90, must be a beauty though  . These current things are monstrous in size and really the authorities should have jumped on this at its inception, along with the wings and appendages. It is all very stupid when viewed from afar and now we have the increasing resentment about the flexible wing yet again. It appears that Binotto has said that Ferrari are using the same bendy wing as Red Bull and both MB and McLaren are in full on complain mode. Wolff is even suggesting legal action, which of course he would as no one can challenge his all conquering team. Didn't his team use that adjustable front suspension/steering system that many were not happy with, but of course that is OK as he has unimpeachable integrity. It would make my year if Charles were to win on Sunday and we need some truly uplifting motivation this year. |
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Post by Carl on May 21, 2021 16:06:20 GMT
On another note, it's almost grotesque how far the drivers are apart when one sits on the front wheel and another on the rear wheel, as in the photo. Like a truck, indeed ... Yes, they can safely remove their face masks; social distancing is satisfied in abundance Again: hopefully we'll see a remedy of this by the new formula next year!
It is grotesque Mikael, you can almost fit a pre-hybrid car between them!
After JC's latest model car purchase of the Ferrari SF90, I was inspired and added the same car (at scale 1:18) to my collection. It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous!
On a positive note, it also stands out how sophisticated in design and construction a modern car is. So much detail and so perfectly build it makes the older cars (certainly the 70's and 80's cars) look simple. Not less impressive but just very basic. And I'm talking about the real cars, not the quality of the model cars.
If the size will improve (= decrease) next year I am not sure. On some of the preview renderings the cars look more compact but they're going to use the same powertrains. And these are one of the reasons the cars are this long. I know they're going to be heavier due to the new 18" wheels...
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Post by René on May 22, 2021 10:35:55 GMT
It is grotesque Mikael, you can almost fit a pre-hybrid car between them!
After JC's latest model car purchase of the Ferrari SF90, I was inspired and added the same car (at scale 1:18) to my collection. It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous! On a positive note, it also stands out how sophisticated in design and construction a modern car is. So much detail and so perfectly build it makes the older cars (certainly the 70's and 80's cars) look simple. Not less impressive but just very basic. And I'm talking about the real cars, not the quality of the model cars. If the size will improve (= decrease) next year I am not sure. On some of the preview renderings the cars look more compact but they're going to use the same powertrains. And these are one of the reasons the cars are this long. I know they're going to be heavier due to the new 18" wheels...
The big difference is that in the 1970/80's they did not have the money and technology thrown at them, it is a completely alien world now to back then. In those days it was engineering, and today it is "space age +". I am not surprised to hear that you have bought a 1/18th scale model of the 2019 SF90, must be a beauty though . These current things are monstrous in size and really the authorities should have jumped on this at its inception, along with the wings and appendages. It is all very stupid when viewed from afar and now we have the increasing resentment about the flexible wing yet again. It appears that Binotto has said that Ferrari are using the same bendy wing as Red Bull and both MB and McLaren are in full on complain mode. Wolff is even suggesting legal action, which of course he would as no one can challenge his all conquering team. Didn't his team use that adjustable front suspension/steering system that many were not happy with, but of course that is OK as he has unimpeachable integrity. It would make my year if Charles were to win on Sunday and we need some truly uplifting motivation this year. So true John Charles, completely different times. The difference between a 1970's/1980's car and the 2019 car is just as big as when comparing the 80's car with a 1950's car and probably even bigger because of all the computer technology in the contemporary cars. I think that also explaines why drivers nowadays need more time to adjust. "If you can drive you can drive" as Mario says but now it's not only driving but also getting used to all the 'procedures' and the 'ipad/steering wheel' you have in your hands. That is really different. The 1:18 Ferrari is a beauty. The detail and finish is sublime. Not a small investment but I'm glad to have it in my collection. |
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Post by René on May 22, 2021 10:44:57 GMT
It is grotesque Mikael, you can almost fit a pre-hybrid car between them!
After JC's latest model car purchase of the Ferrari SF90, I was inspired and added the same car (at scale 1:18) to my collection. It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous! On a positive note, it also stands out how sophisticated in design and construction a modern car is. So much detail and so perfectly build it makes the older cars (certainly the 70's and 80's cars) look simple. Not less impressive but just very basic. And I'm talking about the real cars, not the quality of the model cars. If the size will improve (= decrease) next year I am not sure. On some of the preview renderings the cars look more compact but they're going to use the same powertrains. And these are one of the reasons the cars are this long. I know they're going to be heavier due to the new 18" wheels...
Carl, I attented a truck race once many years ago at Zolder. Must have been somewhere in the early 90's. As a race class not really 'my cup of tea' but we had a great time. It was a feast of political incorrectness I remember with smelling and smoking trucks and a lot of beer and a 'rough' audience but my mates and I had great fun. |
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Post by mikael on May 22, 2021 12:08:14 GMT
Yet I do think that the present cars actually look good "in the flesh" (although 2019 was the last time I saw one). They do look very impressive when they "fly by" - they're just not photogenic with those dimensions ... Also, the eyes (or rather, the brain) somehow filters out the "halo", and you hardly notice it. And (again again ...) it's hard not to marvel at the cornering speeds. Just to think that they, at Suzuka, go with full throttle through Turn 1, after the home straight, with 300+ km/h - only applying the brakes for Turn 2 - for then to go through the Esses with 200+ km/h - I continue to find it just amazing ...
 
Apropos of truck racing - and political incorrectness: watching the local news on TV the other day, there was a feature about a tractor pulling competition here in the area - and it came in succession of one of the (now) usual features about "how to do something for the climate and the environment". I just wonder what the typical non-motor-interested viewer would have thought about it!
(The photo, and the video below, are from 2018.)
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Post by charleselan on May 22, 2021 15:41:01 GMT
I lost count after qualifying how many drivers and team principles said that they had pole position sown up but lost out thanks to the red flag. Horner claimed that Max was already two and half tenths up when the red flag came out even after Karun's analysis showed it to have been far less. Maybe he should become a politician as "exaggerations" (other terms are available) seems to be in vogue in that line of work.
On the plus side I found the whole session to be compelling with so many teams in the mix and Mercedes Benz seemingly out of sorts, and so good to see Ferrari leading the way with both drivers really on form. Of all the drivers who moved to new teams this year Carlos is an absolute stand out, Martin Brundle was even moved to say that he was Verstappen's best team mate which is very true.
Seems strange that all of the S*YF1media forgot that Max had an identical crash to that of Charles a few years ago, maybe that doesn't sit well with he current narrative.
However the whole thing was ruined for me by the cretinous Kravitz who while interviewing sulky Tonto threw out the deliberately contentious theory that Charles Leclerc could have crashed deliberately. This clown is an absolute disgrace to motor sport journalism, and the comment which wasn't suggested light heartedly was on a par with his "assassination" of Nico at Spa. You could also see that Tonto was in two minds as to jump on the bandwagon, but thought better of it, maybe best hey Tonto under the current fractious goings on in F1.
I am bloody disgusted.
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It arrived yesterday morning and last evening I put it in the display cabinet where it sits next to a 1970, a 1981 and a 2000 car and it just hits you how large it is! It is enormous!
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