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Post by chrisb on Feb 28, 2020 19:54:52 GMT
so i have to reduce the pics to 1 MB and then it is simple, he says,
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Post by chrisb on Mar 3, 2020 6:07:31 GMT
will there be any international sport this year? the news of the spread of this terrible disease is extermely worrying to say the least and motor racing F1, MotoGP et al will they resort to 'virtual' motor racing and it will all be done via online games and computers? or is it anyway
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Post by René on Mar 3, 2020 17:10:05 GMT
will there be any international sport this year? the news of the spread of this terrible disease is extermely worrying to say the least and motor racing F1, MotoGP et al will they resort to 'virtual' motor racing and it will all be done via online games and computers? or is it anyway Chris, yes it's crazy. At the moment it seems MotoGP is suffering more with one race cancelled and one race postponed. F1 seems adament the Australian Grand Prix goes ahead so for now it's only the Chinese Grand Prix cancelled.
But talking about virtual racing, I came across this video the other day which is quite interesting and maybe some food for debate. The venue is the old Spa Francorchamps, so the long track with Burnenville, the Masta kink and Stavelot.
In this virtual racing world, the video shows a comparison between a 1966 Brabham, a 1992 Ferrari and a 2017 Williams Grand Prix car. And they race exactly the same classic track. Have a look and see how F1 has changed over the decades to what we have now. Downforce is the magic (or dirty?) word...
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Post by chrisb on Mar 4, 2020 16:43:21 GMT
would have been great if it had been either the Eagle or the 49 from '67
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Post by charleselan on Mar 4, 2020 17:44:49 GMT
Ever more worrying times that we live in, it would appear that the football authorities are planning holding matches without spectators. That is something not quite so possible for motor racing however as there are far more people involved in the running and participating in racing.
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Post by Carl on Mar 5, 2020 1:26:52 GMT
will there be any international sport this year? the news of the spread of this terrible disease is extermely worrying to say the least and motor racing F1, MotoGP et al will they resort to 'virtual' motor racing and it will all be done via online games and computers? or is it anyway Chris, yes it's crazy. At the moment it seems MotoGP is suffering more with one race cancelled and one race postponed. F1 seems adament the Australian Grand Prix goes ahead so for now it's only the Chinese Grand Prix cancelled.
But talking about virtual racing, I came across this video the other day which is quite interesting and maybe some food for debate. The venue is the old Spa Francorchamps, so the long track with Burnenville, the Masta kink and Stavelot.
In this virtual racing world, the video shows a comparison between a 1966 Brabham, a 1992 Ferrari and a 2017 Williams Grand Prix car. And they race exactly the same classic track. Have a look and see how F1 has changed over the decades to what we have now. Downforce is the magic (or dirty?) word...
Rene, A fascinating post and comparison which has provoked a bit of devil's advocacy. To me, the greater downforce provided since 1966 has an effect similar to computerized control systems in so many of today's road cars. Yawn... It's sad that many great corners are gone. I wish the current Spa could retain the uniqueness of Stavelot and the courage test of the Masta Kink, where less courage would be required today. The relaxation of demands on driver skill over time has reduced the challenge. Racing has been made far better with the many safety improvements since the 1960s, but have any resulted entirely from aerodynamics? -Carl |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 5, 2020 8:55:33 GMT
sorry Rene I meant to make further comment but like us all rather a lot going on at the moment, mutter mutter, isn't it fantastic? I would like to see a comparison in wet weather racing around the old Spa from 1965 to any other subsequent year and compare lap times, over a computer graph overlay, so Jimmy was lapping at 4.12 in 65 and John at 4.18 in 66 in the wet - can we compare? but in dry practice Graham at 3.45 and John at 3.38 - interesting but in 67 Jimmy in practice 3.28 and Dan at 3.31 - sorry digressed, for twice the size of engine and bhp equates to 14 seconds a lap, I lost interest after 67- but talk about sorting men and boys, what a collection of names, Jimmy, John, Graham and Dan - all greats
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Post by René on Mar 6, 2020 16:39:54 GMT
Chris, yes it's crazy. At the moment it seems MotoGP is suffering more with one race cancelled and one race postponed. F1 seems adament the Australian Grand Prix goes ahead so for now it's only the Chinese Grand Prix cancelled. But talking about virtual racing, I came across this video the other day which is quite interesting and maybe some food for debate. The venue is the old Spa Francorchamps, so the long track with Burnenville, the Masta kink and Stavelot. In this virtual racing world, the video shows a comparison between a 1966 Brabham, a 1992 Ferrari and a 2017 Williams Grand Prix car. And they race exactly the same classic track. Have a look and see how F1 has changed over the decades to what we have now. Downforce is the magic (or dirty?) word...
Rene, A fascinating post and comparison which has provoked a bit of devil's advocacy. To me, the greater downforce provided since 1966 has an effect similar to computerized control systems in so many of today's road cars. Yawn... It's sad that many great corners are gone. I wish the current Spa could retain the uniqueness of Stavelot and the courage test of the Masta Kink, where less courage would be required today. The relaxation of demands on driver skill over time has reduced the challenge. Racing has been made far better with the many safety improvements since the 1960s, but have any resulted entirely from aerodynamics? -Carl The aerodynamics of Grand Prix cars is fascinating and personally I really do like wings on the cars. But there's not really an end to a technical development unless it's stopped by regulations. So it keeps on going which has resulted in a level of downforce that is insane.
The speeds of modern cars are impressive but it has not improved close racing and also the 'driving on the limit' experience has changed. I remember, I think late 80's/early 90's, when taking Eau Rouge flat was a real challenge. And that was exactly how it should be. Only the best could do that. Nowadays Lance Stroll can take it flat.
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Post by René on Mar 6, 2020 16:49:03 GMT
It seems the first three Grand Prix (Australia, Bahrein, Vietnam) are going ahead. Many international sporting events have been cancelled but F1 has always lived in its own universe....
Ah well, only a week to go! Mercedes looks again the team to beat. Red Bull could be strong and Ferrari seems to be in trouble (on multiple levels). And what about the pink Merc?
Any predictions?
I believe Charles Leclerc will win the Australian Grand Prix!  |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 7, 2020 12:29:32 GMT
it seems starnge that MotoGP and WSB are cancelling but F1 isn't - must have the money for secret vaccinations,
who would I like to win vs who is likely to win
I would like Danny Riciardo to win, that would be such a hoot, likely to win, I would think Lewis has very good odds on to win, but am going for Vettel - he has so much to priove to himself I think he will be just a little bit more motivated, I would like to see Williams do very well,
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Post by charleselan on Mar 7, 2020 13:30:55 GMT
It seems the first three Grand Prix (Australia, Bahrein, Vietnam) are going ahead. Many international sporting events have been cancelled but F1 has always lived in its own universe....
Ah well, only a week to go! Mercedes looks again the team to beat. Red Bull could be strong and Ferrari seems to be in trouble (on multiple levels). And what about the pink Merc?
Any predictions?
I believe Charles Leclerc will win the Australian Grand Prix! Surely they are not going to run in Vietnam. If they are then obviously the mega rich world of F1 is confident that its wealth and access to the highest order of medics will keep them safe!!! Are they going to run without spectators? If so those folk are at more risk than the teams etc, this strikes me as being incredibly irresponsible, but what can one expect from this shower. |
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Post by René on Mar 8, 2020 11:15:17 GMT
Who would have thought that only a month ago? It is becoming increasingly uncertain if and how the Grand Prix season will start.
The Bahrein Grand Prix will go ahead for now but behind 'closed doors' so no specatators (which in the case of Bahrein does not make a huge difference at least) but with the complete lockdown of Northern Italy, how will this effect Ferrari and Pirelli staff? Can the Australian Grand Prix go ahead? Right now I guess noone really knows as the situation changes by the minute.
It's not an impossible scenario that Zandvoort will be the season opener...
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Post by charleselan on Mar 8, 2020 13:01:34 GMT
Who would have thought that only a month ago? It is becoming increasingly uncertain if and how the Grand Prix season will start. The Bahrein Grand Prix will go ahead for now but behind 'closed doors' so no specatators (which in the case of Bahrein does not make a huge difference at least) but with the complete lockdown of Northern Italy, how will this effect Ferrari and Pirelli staff? Can the Australian Grand Prix go ahead? Right now I guess noone really knows as the situation changes by the minute. It's not an impossible scenario that Zandvoort will be the season opener... Second para; brilliant   . Do not also forget the team formerly known as Toro Rosso as well. The way things are going we may not have any F1 races, this thing is very serious indeed. |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 11, 2020 20:28:36 GMT
Rene I was thinking on similar lines and quite frankly if it was shown behind a pay wall it wouldn't make much difference either , ah it is,
the thing is this dreadful virus seems to be attacking the elderly - so wonder if BCE is going anywhere...
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Post by Carl on Mar 11, 2020 23:17:56 GMT
Rene I was thinking on similar lines and quite frankly if it was shown behind a pay wall it wouldn't make much difference either , ah it is, the thing is this dreadful virus seems to be attacking the elderly - so wonder if BCE is going anywhere... If the devil takes the poison dwarf and hollow pompadour, maybe everyone else could be spared. |
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