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Post by René on Aug 12, 2018 22:10:47 GMT
Lucio, you're on a roll! Cool man. But now it's time for some speed (we're on a racing forum after all )
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Post by Carl on Aug 13, 2018 1:28:47 GMT
Might as well jump Go ahead an' jump!
Lucio,
You're in England and jumping for joy! Welcome back!
Cheers, Carl
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 5:56:02 GMT
Thank you Carl. It's the only song I know or remember from Van Halen, but I have always loved it. A shot of energy. Sounds like Californian fun to me. Although perhaps not fully appropriate for driving, or I may get easily banned, trying to accelerate to the rhythm of that keyboard.
PS: As you may have gleaned, I like American singer-songwriters: The Boss, Dylan, Browne, John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett, Calvin Russell, Billy Joel, Chris Whitley and many others. Grew up with a lot of progressive rock: Genesis (rigorously up to the Lamb lies down on Broadway only, i.e. with Peter Gabriel) and Pink Floyd. And listened to the Deep Purple all through the Seventies: Highway Star, Burn, Stormbringer, Child in Time, Live in Japan, Machine Head etc. Then Peter Gabriel, everything, saw him in concert in his So tour in 1987 in Rome - mesmerizing. Discovered Paul Weller through the Style Council, which I loved very much, and went back to listen to all his Jam repertoire and followed him ever since. Always preferred the Stones to Beatles. Sticky Fingers. And Italian singer-songwriters, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 6:41:22 GMT
Just to reinforce that I have been a long-time great fan of John Hiatt and Lyle Lovett, discovered them both at about the same time, in 1987 when Bring the Family and Pontiac came out and have been ever since, never disappointed. I used to take the train from my parents house and go to Basel and Zurich to buy their back catalogues on CD. I was so happy when I discovered they were playing around the States together, it was entirely fitting in my mind. I could listen to American ballads all day, every day.
Few pearls in a repertoire of many:
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Post by Carl on Aug 13, 2018 23:38:14 GMT
Jan and Dean were probably the best Beach Boy imitators, having vocal harmonies, the surf sound and fast cars down pretty good. This song is about a dangerous curve along Sunset Boulevard, a few miles east of UCLA. It's a high-banked wide radius curve with a divided median and takes normal traffic 15-20 seconds to traverse. In the song, a Corvette and XKE race all the way to it from Sunset and Vine (not very likely). I had a very frightening experience there in my Datsun 510 before I knew about its morbid name. Sunset Boulevard goes all the way to the coast from downtown Los Angeles and is basically a wide boulevard until Beverly Hills, where the curves start. Nearby as I drove along Sunset from the west were two guys in fast cars set up for drag racing with fat rear tyres and traction bars, and they were hauling ass on the straight sections. I was impressed and, deciding I would impress them at the high-banked corner I knew was ahead, I went into it about 75 mph, knowing they couldn't follow. Approaching from the west has you on the high side of the banking and all was fine until I saw that someone in a house above was watering their lawn. A stream of water three or four feet wide was flowing across the road and suddenly I had no sensation through the steering wheel or the seat of my pants. Nothing! I had time to react and managed to do the right things, my foot staying halfway down on the throttle as I counter steered through two massive, almost silent slides that seemed to last forever. A minute later, after I had turned on a residential side street and parked, my hands began to shake violently. I knew how lucky I had just been. A few years later, when I read that Rick Mears preferred slight oversteer at speeds above 200 mph in the turns at Indy, I was even more humbled. His hands didn't shake afterward.
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Post by Carl on Aug 13, 2018 23:52:55 GMT
And now the incomparable genius of Brian Wilson, who never surfed but spent years in a sandbox.
This last song, "409", has some amazing and barely controlled wheelies and is the engine that inspired Dan Gurney to take on the Jaguars on their home turf.
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Post by mikael on Aug 14, 2018 6:58:03 GMT
I "always" loved the movie "Le Mans" of 1971, and its music by Michel Legrand. I guess it has elements of typical French pop music of the 60's. It's easy on the ear, and it fits the racing scenes so beautifully.
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Post by René on Aug 14, 2018 18:28:37 GMT
Jan and Dean were probably the best Beach Boy imitators, having vocal harmonies, the surf sound and fast cars down pretty good. This song is about a dangerous curve along Sunset Boulevard, a few miles east of UCLA. It's a high-banked wide radius curve with a divided median and takes normal traffic 15-20 seconds to traverse. In the song, a Corvette and XKE race all the way to it from Sunset and Vine (not very likely). I had a very frightening experience there in my Datsun 510 before I knew about its morbid name. Sunset Boulevard goes all the way to the coast from downtown Los Angeles and is basically a wide boulevard until Beverly Hills, where the curves start. Nearby as I drove along Sunset from the west were two guys in fast cars set up for drag racing with fat rear tyres and traction bars, and they were hauling ass on the straight sections. I was impressed and, deciding I would impress them at the high-banked corner I knew was ahead, I went into it about 75 mph, knowing they couldn't follow. Approaching from the west has you on the high side of the banking and all was fine until I saw that someone in a house above was watering their lawn. A stream of water three or four feet wide was flowing across the road and suddenly I had no sensation through the steering wheel or the seat of my pants. Nothing! I had time to react and managed to do the right things, my foot staying halfway down on the throttle as I counter steered through two massive, almost silent slides that seemed to last forever. A minute later, after I had turned on a residential side street and parked, my hands began to shake violently. I knew how lucky I had just been. A few years later, when I read that Rick Mears preferred slight oversteer at speeds above 200 mph in the turns at Indy, I was even more humbled. His hands didn't shake afterward. Fantastic anecdote Carl!
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Post by René on Aug 14, 2018 18:31:44 GMT
I "always" loved the movie "Le Mans" of 1971, and its music by Michel Legrand. I guess it has elements of typical French pop music of the 60's. It's easy on the ear, and it fits the racing scenes so beautifully. Wonderful clip Mikael! Thanks for posting this even if I have seen the movie many many times! I think I have most of the cars in the film as slot cars by the way!
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Post by chrisb on Aug 14, 2018 20:28:53 GMT
a great clip Mikael, may I echo Rene's comments - thank you for posting it, although i have no slot cars,
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Post by Carl on Aug 14, 2018 20:32:34 GMT
I "always" loved the movie "Le Mans" of 1971, and its music by Michel Legrand. I guess it has elements of typical French pop music of the 60's. It's easy on the ear, and it fits the racing scenes so beautifully. Wonderful clip Mikael! Thanks for posting this even if I have seen the movie many many times! I think I have most of the cars in the film as slot cars by the way! Mikael and Rene, A wonderful reminder of how realistic the movie was and how beautiful the prototypes! Didn't Matra withdraw #32 because it was smoking non-sponsor Turkish cigarettes?
Cheers, Carl
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Post by Carl on Aug 15, 2018 4:40:23 GMT
Thank you Carl. It's the only song I know or remember from Van Halen, but I have always loved it. A shot of energy. Sounds like Californian fun to me. Although perhaps not fully appropriate for driving, or I may get easily banned, trying to accelerate to the rhythm of that keyboard.
PS: As you may have gleaned, I like American singer-songwriters: The Boss, Dylan, Browne, John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett, Calvin Russell, Billy Joel, Chris Whitley and many others. Grew up with a lot of progressive rock: Genesis (rigorously up to the Lamb lies down on Broadway only, i.e. with Peter Gabriel) and Pink Floyd. And listened to the Deep Purple all through the Seventies: Highway Star, Burn, Stormbringer, Child in Time, Live in Japan, Machine Head etc. Then Peter Gabriel, everything, saw him in concert in his So tour in 1987 in Rome - mesmerizing. Discovered Paul Weller through the Style Council, which I loved very much, and went back to listen to all his Jam repertoire and followed him ever since. Always preferred the Stones to Beatles. Sticky Fingers. And Italian singer-songwriters, of course.
Lucio,
You have wide and divergent taste!
My favorite hard rockers by Van Halen:
And "Angel From Montgomery", a masterpiece by singer-songwriter John Prine from his debut album. A young man at the time, he wrote the song from the perspective of a worn down middle-aged woman he had known.
Cheers, Carl
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Post by mikael on Aug 15, 2018 5:09:14 GMT
I had a very frightening experience there in my Datsun 510 before I knew about its morbid name ... Perhaps a thread called "Moments" could be interesting! I imagine that most members of RRT have experienced a "moment" or two, either on own hand, or as a passenger with someone who wished to demonstrate their high-speed driving skills :-)
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Post by charleselan on Aug 15, 2018 10:50:49 GMT
Thank you Carl. It's the only song I know or remember from Van Halen, but I have always loved it. A shot of energy. Sounds like Californian fun to me. Although perhaps not fully appropriate for driving, or I may get easily banned, trying to accelerate to the rhythm of that keyboard.
PS: As you may have gleaned, I like American singer-songwriters: The Boss, Dylan, Browne, John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett, Calvin Russell, Billy Joel, Chris Whitley and many others. Grew up with a lot of progressive rock: Genesis (rigorously up to the Lamb lies down on Broadway only, i.e. with Peter Gabriel) and Pink Floyd. And listened to the Deep Purple all through the Seventies: Highway Star, Burn, Stormbringer, Child in Time, Live in Japan, Machine Head etc. Then Peter Gabriel, everything, saw him in concert in his So tour in 1987 in Rome - mesmerizing. Discovered Paul Weller through the Style Council, which I loved very much, and went back to listen to all his Jam repertoire and followed him ever since. Always preferred the Stones to Beatles. Sticky Fingers. And Italian singer-songwriters, of course.
Lucio,
You have wide and divergent taste!
My favorite hard rockers by Van Halen:
And "Angel From Montgomery", a masterpiece by singer-songwriter John Prine from his debut album. A young man at the time, he wrote the song from the perspective of a worn down middle-aged woman he had known.
Cheers, Carl
Two great Van Halen tracks there Carl; I also like "Panama" and "Hot For Teacher", one just has to love the athletic showmanship of David Lee Roth who then sought a solo career and was replaced by hard rocking Sammy Hagar. Van Halen with Hagar produced the excellent (well it was for 1980's music) "5150" album. Roth and Hagar have both rejoined at certain times over the years, and in recent times with David Lee Roth they have released another acclaimed album which i have but never played!!! Interestingly it appears that around 1985 Eddie Van Halen asked Daryl Hall to join the band as lead vocalist; Daryl declined which in all probablity was a good move as Hall in my opinion is the greatest white "soul" singer of all time. His internet shows "Live at Daryl's House" are sensational with some iconic and outstanding guests, most episodes can be found on YouTube and are very much worth watching for great musicianship.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 15:28:17 GMT
Lucio,
You have wide and divergent taste!
My favorite hard rockers by Van Halen:
And "Angel From Montgomery", a masterpiece by singer-songwriter John Prine from his debut album. A young man at the time, he wrote the song from the perspective of a worn down middle-aged woman he had known.
Cheers, Carl
Love John Prine, absolutely.
Great tracks the Van Halen's ones. I had heard them, but as I said I haven't followed them too closely, apart Jump.
I have followed a bit more closely these guys:
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