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Post by René on Jul 27, 2018 8:30:58 GMT
The last race before the summer break. Can Vettel/Ferrari retake the lead in the championship? A strong result seems essential to not lose out (again) to Mercedes. But the Ferrari (with its magic trick) looks like the fastest car. Let's only hope the sudden loss of Sergio Marchionne does not disturb the focus and balance too much. Red Bull will also be strong here so watch out for Max and Danny! A Hungaroring classic. Arguably Mansell's best win.
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Post by Jamie on Jul 27, 2018 11:44:06 GMT
This one will be interesting René......not a good circuit for comeback drives so Lewis better get his qualifying act together. I’m hoping for a clean start so we can really see who has the pace, I’m going for Verstappen but think the Ferrari has to be right up there as well. MB feel like third favourites here, been a long while since I’ve thought that....
Great clip of Mansell René 👍 My personal favourite Hungaroring race is 1997 when Damon damn near won in the Arrows.....reliability ruined what would have been an amazing story that day 😡
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Post by charleselan on Jul 27, 2018 12:10:42 GMT
Like Jamie I am going for Max. If the young man drives with the calmness he displayed in Germany then with a highly competitive RB he should right on the money. It would be wonderful to see Kimi win for Ferrari, he always does very well on this fiddly little track but I have a feeling that the team management will see that he isn't optimised.
I have read in MS that Hughes says Kimi is lobbying Ferrari to get him a seat at Sauber for 2019, what the blazes is that all about. He and Alonso should get the hell out of F1 and ply their trade, and obvious love of racing, in a competitive environment elsewhere. What a shame sportscar racing isn't like it was in the 1980's, they would have fun in that and get paid well too, not that money is that important to those two these days.
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Post by Jamie on Jul 27, 2018 12:22:37 GMT
Yes Kimi to Sauber would make no sense at all??
It’s Ferrari’s breeding ground, not it’s retirement home....
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Post by Carl on Jul 27, 2018 16:25:24 GMT
The last race before the summer break. Can Vettel/Ferrari retake the lead in the championship? A strong result seems essential to not lose out (again) to Mercedes. But the Ferrari (with its magic trick) looks like the fastest car. Let's only hope the sudden loss of Sergio Marchionne does not disturb the focus and balance too much. Red Bull will also be strong here so watch out for Max and Danny! A Hungaroring classic. Arguably Mansell's best win. Nice pass! Nigel Mansell never needed seat cushions when he sat upon his appendages. The commentators are the great Bob Varsha and David Hobbs. Bob Varsha, now inexplicably sidelined by NBC, had great knowledge and was able to convey excitement without breathless histrionics and David Hobbs was unsurpassed as a color commentator.
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Post by chrisb on Jul 27, 2018 16:26:53 GMT
having had the priviledge of seeing Kimi win at Hungary, it really is a neat little circuit to visit and the attractions are very...attractive - well worth a visit - i've gone for Daniel - because i think he has something extra to prove this weekend, mind it would be good to see the Hulk win
Kimi to Sauber, and now the circle is complete? but as you say JC wouldn't it be a bit better if Kimi and Alongso went off to WEC and had some fun?
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Post by Carl on Jul 27, 2018 16:32:03 GMT
No-one ever chooses Lewis Hamilton. Does this indicate that character counts at the round table?
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Post by charleselan on Jul 27, 2018 17:23:47 GMT
Nice pass! Nigel Mansell never needed seat cushions when he sat upon his appendages. The commentators are the great Bob Varsha and David Hobbs. Bob Varsha, now inexplicably sidelined by NBC, had great knowledge and was able to convey excitement without breathless histrionics and David Hobbs was unsurpassed as a color commentator.
Carl, I may be mistaken as I do not watch the Formula E series too often but I think that Bob Varsha is on the commentary team for the world feed, he appears to do a lot of background speaking rather than the two front men. John Charles
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Post by Jamie on Jul 27, 2018 17:32:53 GMT
No-one ever chooses Lewis Hamilton. Does this indicate that character counts at the round table? Could be 😁 However, I just don’t think his car will be quick enough here.....that’s quite a thought...
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Post by René on Jul 27, 2018 18:01:19 GMT
having had the priviledge of seeing Kimi win at Hungary, it really is a neat little circuit to visit and the attractions are very...attractive - well worth a visit - i've gone for Daniel - because i think he has something extra to prove this weekend, mind it would be good to see the Hulk win Kimi to Sauber, and now the circle is complete? but as you say JC wouldn't it be a bit better if Kimi and Alongso went off to WEC and had some fun? Chris you're absolutely right, the Hungaroring is a nice track to visit. I was there in 2003 when Alonso won his first Grand Prix. Budapest is also a great city.
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Post by René on Jul 27, 2018 18:05:48 GMT
Like Jamie I am going for Max. If the young man drives with the calmness he displayed in Germany then with a highly competitive RB he should right on the money. It would be wonderful to see Kimi win for Ferrari, he always does very well on this fiddly little track but I have a feeling that the team management will see that he isn't optimised. I have read in MS that Hughes says Kimi is lobbying Ferrari to get him a seat at Sauber for 2019, what the blazes is that all about. He and Alonso should get the hell out of F1 and ply their trade, and obvious love of racing, in a competitive environment elsewhere. What a shame sportscar racing isn't like it was in the 1980's, they would have fun in that and get paid well too, not that money is that important to those two these days. Kimi to Sauber would be weird, almost sad. Go back rallying Kimi or go to the States and do Indycar! Fernando vs Kimi in Indycar would be rather cool!
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Post by charleselan on Jul 27, 2018 18:11:57 GMT
I can remember a time when the Hungaroring was somewhat ridiculed for being a glorified Go-Kart (sic) track and that was exemplified by Senna nurfing poor Alessandro Nannini out of the way on one occasion. Amazing now that it is almost regarded as a great circuit, such is the disdain many feel for the Tilkedromes that proliferate the Grand Prix calendar.
However Budapest is a beautiful city where West meets East in such a glorious manner, so long may it remain as a Formula One venue.
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Post by René on Jul 27, 2018 18:20:35 GMT
I can remember a time when the Hungaroring was somewhat ridiculed for being a glorified Go-Kart (sic) track and that as exemplified by Senna nursing poor Alessandro Nannini out of the way on one occasion. Amazing now that it is almost regarded as a great circuit, such is the disdain many feel for the Tilkedromes that proliferate the Grand Prix calendar. However Budapest is a beautiful city where West meets East in such a glorious manner, so long may it remain as a Formula One venue. Yes I remember that too. It will never be a Spa, Monza or Suzuka but it is a nice little track nevertheless. And almost a classic by now. What is it, 32 years now? I liked the atmosphere there.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 27, 2018 18:24:11 GMT
Like Jamie I am going for Max. If the young man drives with the calmness he displayed in Germany then with a highly competitive RB he should right on the money. It would be wonderful to see Kimi win for Ferrari, he always does very well on this fiddly little track but I have a feeling that the team management will see that he isn't optimised. I have read in MS that Hughes says Kimi is lobbying Ferrari to get him a seat at Sauber for 2019, what the blazes is that all about. He and Alonso should get the hell out of F1 and ply their trade, and obvious love of racing, in a competitive environment elsewhere. What a shame sportscar racing isn't like it was in the 1980's, they would have fun in that and get paid well too, not that money is that important to those two these days. Kimi to Sauber would be weird, almost sad. Go back rallying Kimi or go to the States and do Indycar! Fernando vs Kimi in Indycar would be rather cool! René, I hope that my comment wasn't misconstrued as being ageist as that isn't my intention in my original comment. In fact I feel the opposite as I abhor this current belief that a competitor is "past it" once they reach their mid thirties. Some of the greats of the past were late 30's and 40's when they achieved WC's and wins. Fangio and Jack Brabham come to mind when we talk of 40 something, and then what about Nigel Mansell still braver than anyone, and a WC at 39 years. My thoughts of Kimi and Teflonso leaving F1 and doing something else was not based on performance or ability but on respect, in a way them sticking two fingers up at these clowns who want schoolboys racing in a man's sport. There is a place for all ages in F1, there always was and always should be. Kimi has one of the largest followings in the sport and can it really afford to loose him; one more year at Ferrari and then let Charles come on board. Also for goodness sake Ferrari give him an even chance to win a few without compromising his race in favour of Sebastian. JC
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Post by René on Jul 27, 2018 19:38:43 GMT
Kimi to Sauber would be weird, almost sad. Go back rallying Kimi or go to the States and do Indycar! Fernando vs Kimi in Indycar would be rather cool! René, I hope that my comment wasn't misconstrued as being ageist as that isn't my intention in my original comment. In fact I feel the opposite as I abhor this current belief that a competitor is "past it" once they reach their mid thirties. Some of the greats of the past were late 30's and 40's when they achieved WC's and wins. Fangio and Jack Brabham come to mind when we talk of 40 something, and then what about Nigel Mansell still braver than anyone, and a WC at 39 years. My thoughts of Kimi and Teflonso leaving F1 and doing something else was not based on performance or ability but on respect, in a way them sticking two fingers up at these clowns who want schoolboys racing in a man's sport. There is a place for all ages in F1, there always was and always should be. Kimi has one of the largest followings in the sport and can it really afford to loose him; one more year at Ferrari and then let Charles come on board. Also for goodness sake Ferrari give him an even chance to win a few without compromising his race in favour of Sebastian. JC No I didn't read that at all. Kimi and Fernando are both still elite racing drivers, both capable of winning if they have the right tools. But I would hate to see Kimi trailing at the back like we see now with Alonso. At least McLaren is still a top team in name but Sauber? Or maybe Kimi knows more about the Sauber-Alfa plans for next year...
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