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Post by charleselan on Jul 27, 2018 19:53:46 GMT
René, I hope that my comment wasn't misconstrued as being ageist as that isn't my intention in my original comment. In fact I feel the opposite as I abhor this current belief that a competitor is "past it" once they reach their mid thirties. Some of the greats of the past were late 30's and 40's when they achieved WC's and wins. Fangio and Jack Brabham come to mind when we talk of 40 something, and then what about Nigel Mansell still braver than anyone, and a WC at 39 years. My thoughts of Kimi and Teflonso leaving F1 and doing something else was not based on performance or ability but on respect, in a way them sticking two fingers up at these clowns who want schoolboys racing in a man's sport. There is a place for all ages in F1, there always was and always should be. Kimi has one of the largest followings in the sport and can it really afford to loose him; one more year at Ferrari and then let Charles come on board. Also for goodness sake Ferrari give him an even chance to win a few without compromising his race in favour of Sebastian. JC No I didn't read that at all. Kimi and Fernando are both still elite racing drivers, both capable of winning if they have the right tools. But I would hate to see Kimi trailing at the back like we see now with Alonso. At least McLaren is still a top team in name but Sauber? Or maybe Kimi knows more about the Sauber-Alfa plans for next year... That is the whole point René, the thought of Kimi racing around in mid field is not what I wish to see, but as you say maybe he knows more about Sauber-Alfa and its future.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 21:01:54 GMT
The last race before the summer break. Can Vettel/Ferrari retake the lead in the championship? A strong result seems essential to not lose out (again) to Mercedes. But the Ferrari (with its magic trick) looks like the fastest car. Let's only hope the sudden loss of Sergio Marchionne does not disturb the focus and balance too much. Red Bull will also be strong here so watch out for Max and Danny! A Hungaroring classic. Arguably Mansell's best win. Could that pass even take place these days? Senna would have been screaming for "Blue flags", and Mansell probably would have been 1 to 1.5 sec behind to avoid cooking his tyres.
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Post by Carl on Jul 27, 2018 21:19:44 GMT
Nice pass! Nigel Mansell never needed seat cushions when he sat upon his appendages. The commentators are the great Bob Varsha and David Hobbs. Bob Varsha, now inexplicably sidelined by NBC, had great knowledge and was able to convey excitement without breathless histrionics and David Hobbs was unsurpassed as a color commentator.
Carl, I may be mistaken as I do not watch the Formula E series too often but I think that Bob Varsha is on the commentary team for the world feed, he appears to do a lot of background speaking rather than the two front men. John Charles John Charles, I happened to watch recently because I was curious about the circuit layout in Brooklyn, across the East River from Manhattan and the former home of the baseball Dodgers, and you are exactly right. He is part of the commentary team, but at a curious distance and was abruptly interrupted once or twice as though the two front men were unaware he was speaking. A curious arrangement and a waste of Bob Varsha's talent.
-Carl (former Dodger fan)
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Post by Carl on Jul 27, 2018 21:37:19 GMT
We all should just leave Kimi alone! He knows what he's doing (normally*)!! He may decide to turn off his radio next time Sebastian wants special favors.
* Kimi on the radio in his first NASCAR Nationwide Series event (May 28, 2011)
"I don't understand how this car can be so hot. My ass is even burning in here!"
He had decided against heat shields because heat had not been an issue in the truck he raced the week beforehand.
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Post by Jamie on Jul 28, 2018 6:44:47 GMT
We all should just leave Kimi alone! He knows what he's doing (normally*)!! He may decide to turn off his radio next time Sebastian wants special favors.
* Kimi on the radio in his first NASCAR Nationwide Series event (May 28, 2011)
"I don't understand how this car can be so hot. My ass is even burning in here!"
He had decided against heat shields because heat had not been an issue in the truck he raced the week beforehand.
Ha ha, god love Kimi and his ‘on the nose’ comments 👍 I, like you all, really wouldn’t want to see him in a Sauber and not because he’s too old or not good enough......Ferrari really is the peak for a driver and it’s a fact that his abilities are ever so slightly on the downwards slope or, at best, have plateaued. So if the No 2 Ferrari seat is no longer available (and it’s very much a No2 which I don’t like), then why go mid-grid with narry a chance to win? In its current guise Sauber is a springboard to Ferrari and he’s hardly going to rejoin the mothership after impressing in the scout craft at this stage in his career?? I hope that it’s just paddock rumour as, if true, it can only be about money. Or perhaps his desire to race these cars is so strong he’ll drive anywhere and winning isn’t important to him? I suspect that winning is a tipple so rarely taken that he’d have some pretty major withdrawal symptoms.......Indycars, oh yes that would be fantastic for Kimi....I have everything crossed that he seriously considers the US series an option.
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Post by chrisb on Jul 28, 2018 7:34:42 GMT
I wonder if Kimi would ever consider becoming a co-commentator?
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Post by robmarsh on Jul 28, 2018 7:46:20 GMT
I think Kimi should stay on at Ferrari for at least another year. Like John Charles I don't see what age has to do with it. He is still driving faster than the majority and is still hungry enough. I think that if it wasn't for some of Ferrari's poor strategy calls over the last three seasons Kimi could have won at least three races which puts him on a par with Max nearly half his age and who has not been hampered by poor calls from the pit wall. I think Leclerc would also benefit from another season with a mid range team out of the glare of publicity that goes with driving for Ferrari. There is many a great F1 driver whose second season has been worse than their first for some reason and its better not to do that in a Ferrari.
Until Sergio Marchionne (RIP) unexpectedly passed away I believed that Sauber could have been re branded as Alfa Romeo next year and given even more support by moving more Ferrari technical skills across. It would fit with SM's view of improving the image of the marque.
I would vote for Kimi at Spa. I just can't bring myself to vote for Hamilton because most of my vote is with my heart and his attention seeking goes against that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 8:25:41 GMT
I wonder if Kimi would ever consider becoming a co-commentator? If the deal included ice cream
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 8:30:59 GMT
A number of Sites are reporting that Force India is about to be, or has been, placed into administration, and that Sergio Perez and his management team are behind an application against FI. Also that application is backed by Mercedes. Both parties are owed substantial amounts of money. The articles on the sites all refer to the post below, www.racefans.net/2018/07/27/perez-behind-legal-proceedings-force-india-administration-over-4m-debt/I'm not sure how credible the site or the information are. The other articles, mostly quoting Otto Szafnaur, seem to think that the sale of FI is basically a done deal, but that FI going through a short period of administration is a necessary part of the process. I hope that optimistic outlook is warranted and 'the Silverstone based Team' continue in F1.
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Post by chrisb on Jul 28, 2018 10:47:22 GMT
On a more serious note, Kimi has the speed, he obviously is ok being supportive without losing his self-respect whereas LeClerc is unlikely to be and rather like Danny what happens if he proves as quick as if not quicker than Seb, is that a dynamic Ferrari want,
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Post by chrisb on Jul 28, 2018 10:49:43 GMT
i also heard that Jim, and it would seem to be the case, wonder if Force India are going to become an official Merc 'b' team? - maybe named the Smart team....
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Post by charleselan on Jul 28, 2018 12:52:43 GMT
Some sources suggest that it is Stro$$ Snr who is in line to buy the team, or a major interest; or that the wealthy Russian backers of the teams third driver (can't think of the guys name, which says something ). Sad for the guys in Fi as they are a great bunch, although I am no fan of the current team owner who faces serious charges in his home country should he ever return there.
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Post by Carl on Jul 28, 2018 15:49:02 GMT
I wonder if Kimi would ever consider becoming a co-commentator? Having to banter with the contentious Raikkonen would serve David Croft right.
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Post by Carl on Jul 28, 2018 22:18:50 GMT
Questionable observations from qualifying in Hungary:
Contemptuous at not being selected to win by anyone here, Lewis Hamilton was brilliant throughout qualifying.
Several team meteorologists are headed home tonight at their own expense.
Daniel Ricciardo is wondering if he may be Red Bull's #3 driver.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 2:32:22 GMT
Time for a bit of a handgrenade........ I've just watched the F2 feature race. That went from so wet that they were track drying behind the safety car on full wets, to a near dry circuit over 34 laps. The race was spectacular. Very close, extremely skillful, with the drivers reacting to the changing conditions to extract the maximum from their cars, brilliant! The F3 race is on now, and its also tighter than a tight thing. Since the only difference between the cars is set up, and the driver, and the cars are open wheel V8 n.a. powered, with aero set up to allow close following and racing...... I'll launch my handgrenade, and assert to all the posters who feel that F1 is too car focused, and would like it to be all about driver skill, and close racing, You're watching the wrong series!!!!!!!! F2 and F3 are the series you should be watching. Enjoy that, but let me enjoy watching F1 continue on its hybrid powered, aero detailed, ridiculously over complex, Team focused path as the pinnacle of motorsport ;-)
P.S - I definitely recommend watching the F2 main race. It was excellent racing.
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