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Post by charleselan on Feb 12, 2018 18:01:54 GMT
Thanks for the info' on the Jochen Rindt book, I was a big fan of his but do not have a single book on him. I think back in the day that Heinz Pruler (excuse spelling) did the definitive biography. Come to think of it there are many of the drivers from that time who I don't have biographies in book form, as well as those like Nuvolari etc.
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Post by Jamie on Feb 12, 2018 19:10:35 GMT
I have read Tremayne' book on Jochen Rindt and I enjoyed it. It was a subject close to my heart and the only book I have on him so to me it was worth purchasing. It is good quality. I’d second Rob’s review, Jochen Rindt - Uncrowned King is a fantastic book, one of the favourites in my collection. I also have the ‘driver profile’ book about Jochen by Alan Henry, some wonderful photographs in that one. In the main I quite enjoy Tremayne’s books and one of the best in my collection, if not the best (other than the Clark stuff) is The Lost Generation. Have any of you read it? It’s about Roger Williamson, Tony Brise and Tom Pryce and it’s brilliant. Inspiring and heartbreaking in equal measure.
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Post by charleselan on Feb 13, 2018 10:19:09 GMT
I have read Tremayne' book on Jochen Rindt and I enjoyed it. It was a subject close to my heart and the only book I have on him so to me it was worth purchasing. It is good quality. I’d second Rob’s review, Jochen Rindt - Uncrowned King is a fantastic book, one of the favourites in my collection. I also have the ‘driver profile’ book about Jochen by Alan Henry, some wonderful photographs in that one. In the main I quite enjoy Tremayne’s books and one of the best in my collection, if not the best (other than the Clark stuff) is The Lost Generation. Have any of you read it? It’s about Roger Williamson, Tony Brise and Tom Pryce and it’s brilliant. Inspiring and heartbreaking in equal measure. Thanks Jamie, I nearly ordered a copy last evening but I am spending too much this week already as I am travelling over to the UK for a week this Friday, so therefor have held off, just. I was incorrect in an earlier comment about not having any books on Jochen for I have the Alan Henry book you mention above, have quite a few in that series (Jim's of course), and it does have some superb pictures. I do not have "The Lost Generation" as I remember all of that too vividly sadly. Three great potentials that had their lives snuffed out so very tragically in terrible circumstances. Roger was a tigerish driver a bit Mansell like but without the histrionics; Tom had amazing car control and was a spectacular driver who was rated by many; Tony was outstanding once he got into F1 and to a certain extent F5000 also, all of the ingredients were there for the Graham Hill team to become something very good until the fateful night.
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 13, 2018 13:18:04 GMT
I have the book the Lost Generation but have yet to read it. It is on my hit list for this year's reading. Last year, and in no small way due to the gentlemen on this site, and who were on the MS site before, my enthusiasm for Motor Racing returned tenfold. I think I must have read about 15 motor racing books last year and am already into my fourth or fifth for this year. I have also ordered about six more and have just received the one on Ickx by Rene's countryman Ed Heuvink and also the one on Peter Collins by Ed Macdonagh. Both of these will have to be read sitting up because they are fairly heavy.
For some reason I have got really interested in the land speed and water records, having read Donald Campbell the man behind the mask and Speed Duel so have ordered three books on relating to Donald Campbell and the bluebird and one on the Fast Set. Luckily a couple were paperbacks. I need to pull back now.
Another book by David Tremayne which I enjoyed and was in fact the first book I read from him is called Racers Apart. Well worth a read as it covers all sorts of speed events from GPs to hydroplanes.
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Post by chrisb on Feb 13, 2018 19:25:46 GMT
Hi Rob, apologies for late response, I was considering Mon Ami Mate - but it is expensive and I will now look at DT's book on Jochen
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 14, 2018 8:00:11 GMT
Hi ChrisB Mon Ami mate is a great book. I see they are re releasing it at around the original price. The late Chris Nixon wrote some excellent books in a very enjoyable style.
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Post by chrisb on Feb 14, 2018 8:59:51 GMT
that's interesting Rob, I did like Chris Nixon's writing style but am going to order the Jochen book,
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Post by chrisb on Feb 14, 2018 9:10:28 GMT
i have always hesitated buying the lost generation for some reason, there is a such a poignant sadness to these three tragedies and whilst I felt Roger and Tom capable of winning a GP I could never see them as Champs, whereas i felt Tony was destined and robbed by a foul night. I just feel that Roger and Tom were victims of such needless accidents - Roger especially after what happened to Lorenzo 6 years earlier - at the Tom Wheatcroft collection at Donington last time I was there Tom had a tribute to Roger and it just choked me, and Tom, I saw him at Brands and the angles he put the car at Ronnie would have been proud of him! such a needless death all they had to do was wave a double yellow flag and two lives may have been saved, but then as Jackie Stewart said, for the sake of a crash barrier Jimmy would still be with us and we could go on and on as I am doing, sorry
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Post by chrisb on Feb 14, 2018 9:54:37 GMT
Jamie, did you get your ~Pete Lyon's book on can-am? was it called Can-Am photo history? - I ask as I have a copy
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Post by René on Feb 14, 2018 12:02:12 GMT
Jamie, did you get your ~Pete Lyon's book on can-am? was it called Can-Am photo history? - I ask as I have a copy That is a great book Chris! Beautiful pictures. I understand all books by Lyons on Can-Am are really good.
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Post by charleselan on Feb 14, 2018 12:48:39 GMT
I am off back to the UK on Friday for a week or so and will be picking up my copy of Pete Lyons Can Am that I purchased before Christmas, can't wait to look through it. The Jochen Rindt book really tempted me but all of those on sale at Amazon were either expensive (even preowned) or did not qualify for "Prime" which i have just started a months free trial. There are two near mint copies for sale on eBay which are tempting.
However I think I would prefer the Heinz Pruller book which he wrote the most part with Jochen before he died and the rest with Nina afterwards.
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 14, 2018 13:20:19 GMT
"However I think I would prefer the Heinz Pruller book which he wrote the most part with Jochen before he died and the rest with Nina afterwards."
There are a few second hand copies of this book available on Amazon.co.uk starting at about GBP5 and working upwards. Actually there were more books on Jochen rindt by various authors than I thought. At least four other authors.
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Post by charleselan on Feb 14, 2018 13:29:35 GMT
"However I think I would prefer the Heinz Pruller book which he wrote the most part with Jochen before he died and the rest with Nina afterwards." There are a few second hand copies of this book available on Amazon.co.uk starting at about GBP5 and working upwards. Actually there were more books on Jochen rindt by various authors than I thought. At least four other authors. Yes Rob, I have noticed those and the ones available on AbeBooks, some at very reasonable second hand prices and others extortionate values. I seem to remember you mentioning that some sellers are asking g stupid money for books. The Pruller book was supposed to be the definitive one and he also produced a very good film on Jochen which is, or was, available on YouTube.
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Post by robmarsh on Feb 14, 2018 13:54:01 GMT
Yep I managed to read a copy of the Pruller book from a library. It was very good because it was written at the time and with the full co-operation of the subject, rather like Jackie Stewart's first two books. I didn't know about the film but will look it up now that my TV is connected to YouTube. I can still remember the shock when I saw that Rindt had been killed. We had been away for the weekend and only found out on the sunday evening when we got home. 1970 was a terrible year and it was the first year that I really started following the results race by race via the Radio news at 19:45 every Sunday. It is hard to believe that it will be 50 years on 7 April that Jim Clark was killed. I can still remember finding that out on the Monday morning at boarding school reading the back of the Latin master's paper at the breakfast table.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 14:25:40 GMT
I have both Tremayne's bought in 2010 and Pruller (this one in Italian translation) last year. I am afraid I haven't read either of them!
Tremayne is usually very good. Pruller's book is from 1970.
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