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Post by chrisb on Jan 24, 2018 21:41:08 GMT
never a truer word said Carl, how many sports, lives etc have been ruined by the greed of the few
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Post by René on Jan 26, 2018 23:49:00 GMT
Update on car launch dates. Williams will be the first, the first one build under Paddy Lowe supervision.
February 15: Williams-Mercedes February 20: Renault February 22: Mercedes & Ferrari February 23: McLaren-Renault February 25: Toro Rosso-Honda & Force India-Mercedes
And with regards to the halo, we live between hope and fear. According to James Key in a Dutch newspaper the look will be better:
"With the aerodynamic features of the Halo it will look a bit more like it should for formula one. Better than we've seen it so far," Key is quoted by the Algemeen Dagblad newspaper.
"The Halo will be slightly more refined, because the teams have had time to study it and work on the aerodynamics," he added.
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Post by chrisb on Jan 27, 2018 7:23:27 GMT
well fingers crossed Rene,
has anyone read Autosport in the past few weeks? there is quite a negative albeit probably accurate article by Gary Anderson - asking why would this season be any better - car -wise I think he may well be right, but competitive wise I really hope he is wrong - for the following reasons, Bottas may have settled in a bit more, Ferrari will be more competitive, Red Bull have two great chargers and the Renault engine will be better, the Hulk may finally realise his potential[wish he was in the Williams] , and then Alonso, after years of Honda frustration he is now in a car he can reasonably compete with -
downside, not being able to race, because of rules, regulations, aeros, circuits and the Williams drivers, but we live in hope, well perhaps a slightly jaded hope but...
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Post by René on Jan 27, 2018 9:22:27 GMT
Always look on the bright side, Chris! I have read Anderson's preview analysis. I don't think he knows anything more than we do. The rules are virtually the same and thus are the cars. I am more positive competitive wise as I do believe it will be even closer between the Mercs, the Ferraris and the Red Bulls but a picture will only start to appear after the first tests. McLaren could be a surprise factor at times. Not entirely agree what you say about the Hulk, I think he is better off at Renault. I do hope he gets that first podium finally, he really deserves it. But I don't see him as a possible future champ anymore to be honest. It is taking too long.
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Post by chrisb on Jan 30, 2018 8:44:49 GMT
have just been reading Mark Hughes's team mate comparisons which is a fascinating piece of journalism and one I enjoyed reading, until that was i started to read some of the comments, gosh chaps, this does make me even more grateful for this forum, my thanks to you all
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Post by chrisb on Jan 30, 2018 8:46:13 GMT
quick question chaps, and non French Knights, who pays to watch F1?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 8:55:22 GMT
Not me, Chris. Not a chance.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 30, 2018 9:43:16 GMT
I do but then I pay for all my viewing at approx GBP60 per month. The local channels are not worth the annual licence fee of GBP20. This gives me 8 live sports channels, sometimes 12 when the Olympics or world cups are running, plus about 8 news channels including al jazeera which is less biased than CNN, about 20 movie and series channels, we get the most popular series from the US within 24 hours. All in all good value methinks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 10:07:16 GMT
Rob, if it works for you, that is cool.
My point is that both in Italy and then when I moved to the UK F1 has always been free-on-air, in both countries it's the second sport after football. If they want to put it behind the paywall, it's their prerogative. My prerogative is to choose not to pay, in principle. They can keep their "show" for themselves, AFAIC.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 30, 2018 13:05:33 GMT
Hi Lucio they stopped free to air sport here twenty years back. In Africa the sports and govt backed TV channels have never been very good or unbiased. I am just pleased that we have the opportunity to get a choice. However, nowadays with all our suburbs in the big cities getting fibre direct to homes the need to pay for service will start to disappear as you can stream live to your TV.
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Post by René on Jan 30, 2018 17:06:37 GMT
I pay to watch F1. I actually don't need to as the races are free to air on Dutch and German tv but I have an extended sport package that shows all the F1 sessions but also all the Indycar races. I am hopeless...
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Post by Carl on Jan 30, 2018 21:39:26 GMT
There is only a vestige left of free television in America, although it never was entirely free when you consider the commercial advertising that supported the programming. I learned many product jingles as a child. Almost everyone now has either cable or satellite pay systems, which are all monopolies, in the spirit of free enterprise. Many reasonable people want a la carte selecting of channels to restore the spirit of free enterprise, wishful thinking in place of actual provision. Without a suitable alternative, people pay. Some pay many hundreds of dollars each month to have hundreds of channels, usually a man's priority in order to have more channels than their neighbors. "Lord, what fools these mortals be!" - William Shakespeare
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Post by Jamie on Jan 31, 2018 6:52:39 GMT
I have a sky package that includes the F1 channel as part of the bundle so I effectively pay for it, though I don’t pay extra for an add on. To be honest, I think I would pay if I had too.....just to avoid Eddie Jordan and DC 😁
I also pay for BT sport just to watch the MotoGP and it’s becoming rather expensive. I can’t bring myself to cancel it as MotoGP is just too good.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 31, 2018 14:10:26 GMT
you raise a good point Jamie re EJ and DC. I would also pay money to avoid them. We get the full sky coverage here in SA and I must say I enjoy it.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 31, 2018 14:50:26 GMT
The gals have gone!! Glad to see that Liberty Media and the FIA are spending time focussing on the real important issues that affect F1. Personally I have found it too anachronistic for my taste to have the girls on the grid, and it reminded me too much of ecclestone's chauvinistic way of doing things. They didn't have them on the grid back in the the sixties and seventies.
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