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Post by charleselan on Dec 18, 2017 21:07:48 GMT
An amazingly good pianist as well; professionally capable according to those that know.
A very stylish driver, and man. Another tragic waste of human life.
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Post by chrisb on Dec 18, 2017 21:36:06 GMT
I first saw Elio at Silverstone in the sister car to Jan Lammers, and at the time I wasn't quite sure exactly why Colin Chapman was so keen on him, but after a year at Lotus, I kept thinking this man is class, not out and out quick but not far off, and always ready to pick up the pieces, I was really pleased he gave Colin his last GP victory but was never quite understood why Mansell seemed to have a problem with him, I would loved to have seen him at Alfa or Ferrari but yet another stupid, tragic accident that resulted in a yet another death that needn't have happened ensured that didn't happen
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Post by René on Dec 18, 2017 22:59:27 GMT
if ever a racing driver had a better name...i’ve yet to hear it. Well, maybe Scott Speed!  But you're right Jamie, 'Elio de Angelis' sounds beautiful. Like Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci or Antonio Vivaldi.  |
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Post by René on Dec 18, 2017 23:02:59 GMT
I would loved to have seen him at Alfa or Ferrari but yet another stupid, tragic accident that resulted in a yet another death that needn't have happened ensured that didn't happen Yes me too Chris. Elio at Ferrari was something I really wanted to happen. Not sure if it was ever on the table but it seemed such a nice match. |
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Post by Carl on Dec 19, 2017 0:02:12 GMT
Sadly I was at Kyalami the day Tom Pryce died. His car hit Jacques Laffite's Ligier right in front of us and we watched Tom's body get removed from his car. It was a very sad moment though Tom looked very peaceful-almost as if he were asleep. Rob, You must have been at Crowthorne corner and had a clear view of the start/finish straight. Did you sense that Pryce was no longer in control as his car approached? It would have been very traumatic to witness anyone's death, and more so with someone so young and with such promise. -Carl |
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Post by Carl on Dec 19, 2017 0:08:12 GMT
if ever a racing driver had a better name...i’ve yet to hear it. Well, maybe Scott Speed! But you're right Jamie, 'Elio de Angelis' sounds beautiful. Like Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci or Antonio Vivaldi. Many French and Italian names are poetic, befitting prominent Romance languages Max Speed, Scott's even faster brother... always at the maximum. He never learned to slow down and use finesse at slow corners and hit the wall at every hairpin  |
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Post by robmarsh on Dec 19, 2017 6:47:53 GMT
Rob,
You must have been at Crowthorne corner and had a clear view of the start/finish straight. Did you sense that Pryce was no longer in control as his car approached? It would have been very traumatic to witness anyone's death, and maybe more so with someone so young and promising.
-Carl
Yep Carl we were at Crowthorne. The first time we had an inkling that something was amiss was when we saw the Shadow bounce off the right side Armco a couple of hundred metres before the corner. The car was missing the nose cone and was clearly out of control. The next thing was it ploughed straight into Jacques Laffite's Ligier, who had overtaken Tom a couple of laps before, hitting it square amidships and taking both cars off. That was horrendous enough as you know the sickening crunch when a car hits the safety wall. It got worse when they removed Tom from the car. Jacques was very lucky indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 8:53:20 GMT
Autosprint put on the cover the sequence of photos, with a black background, taken from Crowthorne showing the Shadow travelling driverless on the right outside the track and then hitting Laffite's Ligier who was negotiating the curve. Harrowing. I will never forget it.
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Post by René on Dec 19, 2017 10:41:14 GMT
This is from one of my scrapbooks.  |
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Post by charleselan on Dec 19, 2017 19:25:29 GMT
Here we have one of the most under rated drivers from our sport, a marvellous driver who was in my opinion a most deserved World Champion. What is heartening is the fact that he was highly regarded by his peers, none more so than by Jackie Stewart. Interestingly in this photo you can see the after effects of the very bad burns he sustained to his left hand at Indianapolis. Gentlemen I give you Denis Hulme 1967 F1 WC and Can Am driver supreme.  |
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Post by Carl on Dec 19, 2017 19:32:48 GMT
John Charles,
A great picture and character study! As you know, his hands were burned only days before the tragic death of Bruce McLaren. Not only a great driver, but a truly nice person as well, without a trace of self-adoration, an apt description of both men.
- Carl
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Post by charleselan on Dec 19, 2017 19:41:08 GMT
John Charles, As you know, his hands were burned only days before the tragic death of Bruce McLaren. Not only a great driver, but a truly nice person as well without a trace of self-adoration, an apt description of both men. - Carl Carl, He was an amazing guy and so untypical of a Grand Prix race driver in so many ways. It was only in his later career that I really appreciated him fully; that is when he returned to racing after many years in retirement. Now well into his 50's he was stunning in the Tom Walkinshaw Rover Vitesse Group A Touring Cars. There is a great film clip of him talking about that return on YouTube which I watched a month or so ago. I seem to recall that he actually drove with his hands badly burnt a few weeks later because he felt the team needed him after Bruce's passing; an amazing man. John Charles |
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Post by chrisb on Dec 19, 2017 21:02:15 GMT
I do have Denis's biography but must confess it isn't the easiest of reads, must try again, I liked Denis because he was a bit down-to-earth- bohemian, and one of my favourite photos of all time was 1967 Mexico GP sharing the rostrum with Jimmy and both laughing and smiling, a wonderful time, a wonderful photo and a wonderful moment,
Incidentally I don't think you are going to be too bothered by trivia when your Dad is a VC holder, and they really looked alike, and sounded alike and both had that wonderful self-effacing attitude
reminds me of 1967 and stories about Jack Brabham and their relationship, what was it like?
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Post by René on Dec 19, 2017 21:59:36 GMT
A few more photos of the great racer Denis Hulme.  © McLaren Racing Ltd.   © Bernard Cahier |
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Post by Carl on Dec 20, 2017 0:15:22 GMT
Wonderful photographs, Rene! Also fascinating... The first looks like a forested Can-Am race, the second is clearly Nurburgring and the third appears to be Mexico, judging by the American style helmet on the military policeman.
Cheers, Carl
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