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Post by mikael on Nov 5, 2021 22:54:48 GMT
A couple of iconic sports car photos:
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Post by René on Nov 6, 2021 11:16:41 GMT
Magnificent. The second photo is almost like a ballet! But those really were the heydays. Such a beautiful cars. Need to add in a Ferrari of course.   |
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Post by chrisb on Nov 7, 2021 11:03:44 GMT
aww Mikael, more beauties, bringing back such wonderful memories. the Porsche at Brands in tandem was just incredible, showing the 1970 race in youtube with a brief interview with Pedro is a clip that will always lift the mood and remind us of more exciting times,
if I could I would add a Jaguar from the TWR days my other favourite -
wouldn't it just be something if these three marques competed again in sports cars? dreams, oh of course we'd have to have MB in there as well as Alfa
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Post by charleselan on Dec 5, 2021 16:56:08 GMT
The bother evening i was flicking through YouTube film clips and came across an excellent bit of footage from the 1963 Le mans 24 Hours. It was produced by the world renown Pathé News and the content is basically out-takes from a film that was apparently made about the event back in the day. The first film that I looked at was one of the later episodes and I then tuned into the whole series of four films. The film is in full colour and is of truly excellent quality, sadly there is no sound track but from what I can deduce very few of the films back then had one and most were over dubbed pre production. Anyway it takes nothing away from this set of films, so many greta drivers are seen and the cars are just wonderful from the days when there were so many teams and manufacturers taking part. Warning, it is very Ferrari heavy  , with things like the 250P, 250 GTO; 250/330LMB and Pedro and Roger Penske in a NART entered 330TR1. |
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Post by charleselan on Jul 19, 2022 8:40:58 GMT
Quite by chance I came across this beautiful film of the 1972 Nurburgring 1000Kms on YouTube yesterday evening. It was produced in Sweden probably due to the Ronnie interest and really captures those now far off days and how different international motor sport was back then.
It features then incredible Ferrari 312PB's and the Alfa Romeo T33/3 along with some other brilliant cars like the 2 litre Chevron's and Lola T220 also the Koln Capri with a young Jochen Mass. Not so much action but more atmospheric and so much pit and paddock work. Wonderful shot of Ronnie in his anorak walking from the paddock to the pits looking rather damp and distant.
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Post by René on Jul 19, 2022 10:00:50 GMT
What a gem!
I was seven years old at the time so this type of documentary is like a window to the past. Looking at the people, their clothes, the cars, the restaurant, the boy at the model car stall, it really takes you back.
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Post by mikael on Jul 19, 2022 19:54:55 GMT
A beautiful film which - as JC and René writes - provides an impressive flash-back to those times. Things were indeed quite a bit simpler than now; but then again, half a century has passed since those days (and curiously, almost exactly half a century).
It's interesting to notice that the guy who posted the movie (on YouTube) has included - just at the very end of the movie - a couple of highly negative and quite arrogant reviews of the broadcast on Swedish TV, taken from Swedish newspapers. Just like the situation in Denmark, motor racing was not universally popular in Sweden either; and the journalists who wrote those reviews could just not understand, apparently, what it was all about.
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Post by Carl on Jul 20, 2022 0:52:54 GMT
Quite by chance I came across this beautiful film of the 1972 Nurburgring 1000Kms on YouTube yesterday evening. It was produced in Sweden probably due to the Ronnie interest and really captures those now far off days and how different international motor sport was back then. It features then incredible Ferrari 312PB's and the Alfa Romeo T33/3 along with some other brilliant cars like the 2 litre Chevron's and Lola T220 also the Koln Capri with a young Jochen Mass. Not so much action but more atmospheric and so much pit and paddock work. Wonderful shot of Ronnie in his anorak walking from the paddock to the pits looking rather damp and distant. A thousand details often overlooked are wonderfully captured in the film! Ronnie Peterson coming in very slowly and in a serious mood, by contrast smiling shyly later in the rain, both clips revealing and very cool! I loved seeing the bright yellow Toad Hall Racing Porsche 911 of Michael Keyser and Jurgen Barth, who drove far better than Mister Toad to finish 4th in GT. Also cool was the Volkswagen Beetle in a parking area with two large driving lamps on the front bumper, possibly more illumination than needed, and somehow the nearby town survived an invasion by young people in bell bottoms. Also great to see was the Porsche 910 (#33) by then almost a classic, getting into place in the starting formation. Sadly, Jo Bonnier, whose Lola T290 finished sixth, was killed just two weeks later at LeMans. |
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Post by charleselan on Jul 20, 2022 17:05:57 GMT
The Nurburgring 1972 film is another amazing "Time capsule" of the past and as Mikael points out correctly it is half a century ago to the year, unbelievable. So strange that i can remember those times like yesterday but when you get older you become nostalgic, just like my dear old dad who used to reminisce about the WW2 years and such which at the time drove me to distraction.
Great observances in the film Carl, so much to see and little glimpses of the drivers. Interestingly there was only a minuscule shot of the Gulf Mirage at the very start of the race with Derek Bell and absolutely nothing else.
Critic are the same the world over Mikael and in any area, they are usually like poison and make up for their lack of ability in the subject by writing nasty reviews ( a bit like keyboard jocks do on many web sites), it doesn't matter if they are in motor sort; art or music etc its always the same.
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Post by Carl on Aug 16, 2023 15:52:24 GMT
A pretender to the throne photographed by John at Silverstone in 1985. With greater inspiration, fortune and funding, it could have been more than a curiosity.
The Gebhardt JC853
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Post by René on Aug 16, 2023 18:24:49 GMT
A pretender to the throne photographed by John at Silverstone in 1985. With greater inspiration, fortune and funding, it could have been more than a curiosity. The Gebhardt JC853
It's a cool and interesting looking car. One of the many 'what ifs' in motorsport's history. From sideview it looks quite elegant.  |
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Post by mikael on Aug 18, 2023 7:10:03 GMT
Ref.: Gebhardt JC853: It looks very modern with its "dorsal fin".
I was actually not aware of this car, and I thought that such a fin/plate was a much more recent idea.
Interesting to know that it wasn't :-)
Red Bull 2010
Audi LMP1 2011
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Post by René on Aug 18, 2023 9:21:25 GMT
The idea of guiding the air in this way is even older. The 1980 Ferrari T5 already had this, even if this fin was a bit smaller, the principle was the same.   |
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Post by Carl on Aug 18, 2023 16:06:33 GMT
The concept is even older:
1954 Corvette prototype 1955 D-Type Jaguar  1930 Bluebird Land Speed Record  |
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Post by mikael on Aug 18, 2023 17:02:17 GMT
Very interesting René and Carl - thank you.
Oh yes, the 1955 Jaguar somehow "rings a bell". As to the 1980 Ferrari, I probably never took real notice of that detail. I do have some "holes" in my F1 knowledge, I must admit. For example, around 1980 I was completely absorbed in motocross, and didn't think about much else. At that time, my "keeping up" with F1 was limited to reading the summary of the season that had went by in the Motor Sport yearbook. There have been a number of similar periods.
As a kind of compensation, I do think that the years around 1980 were golden years in motocross, considering the technical development that happened at that time. For sure, that had not been seen ever before, and has not been seen ever since.
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, with things like the 250P, 250 GTO; 250/330LMB and Pedro and Roger Penske in a NART entered 330TR1.
