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Post by charleselan on Aug 12, 2021 12:00:58 GMT
The other evening i came across this excellent highlight film of the 1982 Dutch GP at Zandvoort. The Renaults really were the quickest cars that year but notoriously unreliable, however this race featured the majestic best of Didier Pironi in the Ferrari 126C2. Sadly his last grand prix victory before his horrific accident at Hockenheim that finished his car racing career. Little René Arnoux proved once again that there was seldom anyone quicker over a single lap but come race day he on this occasion had issues and could not compete with Prost. All followed by a terrible crash at Tarzan when i believe a wheel came adrift, a horrid accident from which he was lucky to get away with, and the close standing spectators likewise. More to follow with the Italian GP , René's revenge.
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Post by René on Aug 12, 2021 13:22:40 GMT
I was there. 1982 was a season with great promise, fantastic drivers and great cars. It could have been a classic season but two fatal accidents and one near fatal made it one of the worst seasons ever. But yes, there was still great racing and Zandvoort was certainly a great race. From my scrapbook: Lap 1 one with the Renaults still leading and the Ferraris close behind. The rest of the field. Tambay and Lauda. Salazar and Lammers. And the lap of honour for Didier...
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Post by charleselan on Aug 12, 2021 16:36:09 GMT
Indeed a very sad and difficult year but unfortunately some of the great seasons were just that, not I hasten to add due to the tragedies. Great scenic pictures of Zandvoort back then René, they give an appearance of the track that is seldom seen in other photos, well done excellent work.
Another interesting facet from watching these films is brutality of this ground effect cars, just watch them porpoising and bouncing up and down into the corners.
I have noticed that the F1 owners are now preventing showing these films on our platform, stupid narrow minded greed yet again from these idiots who cannot see through there fact that the more people who see F1 and Grand Prix racing that is a plus for the sport and its popularity and future success.
So rather than waste my time here is the link to the Italian GP of 1982, where Mario came out of F1 retirement to drive the Ferrari 126C2 and put it on pole and then finished a steady third place behind team mate Patrick Tambay in second place, but no one could touch super fast René Arnoux in the Renault. A brilliant victory by the little man headed to Ferrari for 1983.
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Post by robmarsh on Aug 12, 2021 17:05:36 GMT
Excellent, thanks Charles and Rene. That Ferrari is one of my all time favourite Ferraris along with the sharknose, 312B, 312T2(76), 156/85, F187/88 and 412T2(95)
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Post by Carl on Aug 12, 2021 18:23:20 GMT
Indeed a very sad and difficult year but unfortunately some of the great seasons were just that, not I hasten to add due to the tragedies. Great scenic pictures of Zandvoort back then René, they give an appearance of the track that is seldom seen in other photos, well done excellent work. Another interesting facet from watching these films is brutality of this ground effect cars, just watch them porpoising and bouncing up and down into the corners. I have noticed that the F1 owners are now preventing showing these films on our platform, stupid narrow minded greed yet again from these idiots who cannot see through there fact that the more people who see F1 and Grand Prix racing that is a plus for the sport and its popularity and future success. So rather than waste my time here is the link to the Italian GP of 1982, where Mario came out of F1 retirement to drive the Ferrari 126C2 and put it on pole and then finished a steady third place behind team mate Patrick Tambay in second place, but no one could touch super fast René Arnoux in the Renault. A brilliant victory by the little man headed to Ferrari for 1983. It's always cool to see where my friend and I were, above the BRM pits in 1970, a modest grandstand brilliantly located and soon replaced by air-conditioned suites for the pampered, few of whom realize that, shoulder to shoulder in the open air, we had more fun. That was quite an accomplishment by Andretti to be on pole, showing his innate talent, but what most impressed me were the several large tributes to Gilles Villeneuve painted on the track itself. He's someone who'll never be forgotten.
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Post by Carl on Aug 12, 2021 18:45:22 GMT
The other evening i came across this excellent highlight film of the 1982 Dutch GP at Zandvoort. The Renaults really were the quickest cars that year but notoriously unreliable, however this race featured the majestic best of Didier Pironi in the Ferrari 126C2. Sadly his last grand prix victory before his horrific accident at Hockenheim that finished his car racing career. Little René Arnoux proved once again that there was seldom anyone quicker over a single lap but come race day he on this occasion had issues and could not compete with Prost. All followed by a terrible crash at Tarzan when i believe a wheel came adrift, a horrid accident from which he was lucky to get away with, and the close standing spectators likewise. More to follow with the Italian GP , René's revenge. A great race and wonderful sounds from the Cosworth engines! Niki Lauda qualified an extremely close 7/1000th of a second behind Pironi's Ferrari, almost placing his Cosworth in the second row among the turbocharged.
I remember how narrowly tragedy was avoided when Arnoux lost a wheel at high speed. It was only by good luck that no-one was seriously injured.
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Post by René on Aug 12, 2021 20:07:31 GMT
That was quite an accomplishment by Andretti to be on pole, showing his innate talent, but what most impressed me were the several large tributes to Gilles Villeneuve painted on the track itself. He's someone who'll never be forgotten. Never Carl, never.
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Post by charleselan on Aug 13, 2021 11:41:23 GMT
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Post by chrisb on Aug 13, 2021 16:26:31 GMT
aww that is just poignantly wonderful chaps, I was so fortunate to be at Zandvoort in 1981, and ok Gilles retired on the 1st lap, I had seen him, but 82, like 58, 68, and 70 were so highly anticipated and we were once again betrayed by tragedy and sorrow, but back to this race, the turbo's were just brilliant and they reminded me as the beasts being attacked by the minions and it was great, and that is such a lovely picture of Gilles,
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Post by René on Aug 13, 2021 17:22:38 GMT
As you all know, I was at Zolder that tragic weekend in May 1982. A weekend I will never forget.
But this thread is also about the great cars and races of that year so I want to show some of the photo slides I made that weekend. First a few I made on the saturday.
This one turned out really nice. Elio in the JPS Lotus. Jacques Laffite in the Ligier. Jean-Pierre Jabouille standing on the left. A look in the McLaren box with mechanics working on Niki's and John's cars. Alfa mechanics working on the suspension and the V12. Didier Pironi talking to Mauro Forghieri before getting in the car only short before the drama would unfold. The last picture I made of Gilles in the 126C2. I did go to see the race on sunday. Of course I felt very sad and Ferrari withdrew from the race but I was also aware that this was part of the sport I loved so I decided to go to the race. I will post some pictures from the sunday in another post.
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Post by Carl on Aug 13, 2021 19:12:28 GMT
René, Your photographs are beautiful and ominously sad at the same time...
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Post by mikael on Aug 14, 2021 14:12:34 GMT
Yes, remarkable photos, René; and so much more when seen in the light that they were taken while you were still only in your teens.
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Post by René on Aug 14, 2021 17:08:18 GMT
Thanks guys. The photos are by no means professional but some of them came out really nice. I remember using my brother's (East German) Praktica camera but it worked fine and having a Paddock ticket I could come very close to the action. Those tickets were still affordable back then.
This was the only time I didn't make 'ordinary' pictures but dia slides. For now I scanned the slides with an iPhone app which works okay but the originals are a bit sharper. The best photo I made is the one from Elio de Angelis. I've got a similar one from Mansell but Elio's is the nicest. When I finally secured a place at Ferrari, I could only make the photo from Pironi and Forghieri. It was the last one on the film which annoyed me but at the time I was still thinking I could take more Ferrari pictures the next day. It wasn't to be. Short after I made that picture the Ferraris went out so I witnessed the emotions from close by.
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Mikael, I was 17 at the time, still in high school and I had no drivers license yet. My parents were so kind to bring me early in the morning and pick me up late in the evening. They did that for several years until I had my license. Super sweet.
I was really big time 'into' Formula 1 then. A passionate Ferrari fan and Gilles was my favourite driver. So yes, the impression that weekend made on me was profound. I've heard many times from my mother how pale I looked when they picked me up that saturday. Of course they also heard it on the news.
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Post by charleselan on Aug 14, 2021 17:43:24 GMT
Thanks guys. The photos are by no means professional but some of them came out really nice. I remember using my brother's (East German) Praktica camera but it worked fine and having a Paddock ticket I could come very close to the action. Those tickets were still affordable back then.
This was the only time I didn't make 'ordinary' pictures but dia slides. For now I scanned the slides with an iPhone app which works okay but the originals are a bit sharper. The best photo I made is the one from Elio de Angelis. I've got a similar one from Mansell but Elio's is the nicest. When I finally secured a place at Ferrari, I could only make the photo from Pironi and Forghieri. It was the last one on the film which annoyed me but at the time I was still thinking I could take more Ferrari pictures the next day. It wasn't to be. Short after I made that picture the Ferraris went out so I witnessed the emotions from close by.
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Mikael, I was 17 at the time, still in high school and I had no drivers license yet. My parents were so kind to bring me early in the morning and pick me up late in the evening. They did that for several years until I had my license. Super sweet.
I was really big time 'into' Formula 1 then. A passionate Ferrari fan and Gilles was my favourite driver. So yes, the impression that weekend made on me was profound. I've heard many times from my mother how pale I looked when they picked me up that saturday. Of course they also heard it on the news.
That is pretty good work "scanning" those 35mm slides with an iPhone app René, you have done very well and they are beautiful photos. The Praktica was a pretty solid and dependable camera, the most important thing was to have a half decent lens. For the first part of the 1970's I used a Russian Zenith E with an assortment of economic telephoto lens and got some quite reasonable results. I have just found a 35mm slide of Gilles on the Saturday morning at Zolder in 1982, its a nice image of him at the chicane which is where I ended up after getting off the tour coach. I have scanned it and it isn't bad but my old flatbed Epson scanner now will not work with any of my computers as they all have OS which is too modern for the software. I have used another which works with the scanner on all the computers but it will not reproduce the quality i am looking for, let alone match the old Epson software. Zolder 1982 was a dreadful weekend, and for someone so young and enthusiastic it must have been terrible. I know how it felt when at a similar age I heard that Jim Clark had been killed, "the world was never the same again" (quote from the great Dan Gurney).
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Post by René on Aug 21, 2021 11:35:33 GMT
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