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Post by Carl on May 7, 2020 20:23:27 GMT
Rene,
No doubt all of us enjoy models of the full scale cars we've seen and loved. You have to hold one to fully appreciate it and I can cradle a favorite in my hand and just stare for minutes at its features with a subconscious longing to be behind the wheel.
The Can-Am Wolf Dallara detail is beautiful. It's curious that your analysis of the slot car matches my recollection of the real car's performance. I believe Chris Amon bailed out of his drive almost as quickly as Masten Gregory occasionally would to avoid disaster, and Gilles smartly accepted the drive as part of his learning curve.
Automobilistico: one of the great words!
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Post by charleselan on May 7, 2020 20:46:22 GMT
Great collection of Gilles cars there René.
Here is one to think about if you can get hold of a spare model of the Scalextric Ferrari 312T2, modify it to a late season 1977 version just as Gilles drove but maybe not the Japanese race version as that ended in tragic circumstances.
I also have a feeling that he drove a Group 5 BMW 320i at some stage, could of even shared it with Ronnie. I have a photo somewhere of them in discussion leaning on one of those cars, so possible.
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Post by René on May 7, 2020 22:55:38 GMT
Automobilistico: one of the great words! Everything sounds great in Italian!  |
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Post by René on May 7, 2020 23:14:16 GMT
Great collection of Gilles cars there René. Here is one to think about if you can get hold of a spare model of the Scalextric Ferrari 312T2, modify it to a late season 1977 version just as Gilles drove but maybe not the Japanese race version as that ended in tragic circumstances. I also have a feeling that he drove a Group 5 BMW 320i at some stage, could of even shared it with Ronnie. I have a photo somewhere of them in discussion leaning on one of those cars, so possible. Well, I have a spare of the Scaley T2 and I actually plan to convert it to an early 1977 version raced in Brazil. That car is quite similar to the 76 car with only a slightly different livery and a different rear wing. The new car (why didn't they at least call it 312T2B?) has more differences then you would say at first sight in both bodywork and wings. Reutemann on his way to victory at Interlagos 1977.  Lauda in the new 1977 T2. The bodywork is more angular compared to the 76 version.  Interesting about the BMW. Must see if I can find something about that. |
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Post by robmarsh on May 8, 2020 7:39:35 GMT
Love them, tks Rene
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Post by chrisb on May 8, 2020 8:46:24 GMT
just incredible - brilliant - thanks Rene
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Post by charleselan on May 8, 2020 9:15:44 GMT
René, I have found the info on Gilles driving a BMW 320i and believe it or not there are die cast models available of the very car. He drove a Team Faltz 320i at Mosport teamed with Eddie Cheever. The car was in fact the orange coloured car that Ronnie drove in Jagermeister colours in 1977, but with different sponsors when at Mosport.  |
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Post by René on May 8, 2020 13:31:51 GMT
René, I have found the info on Gilles driving a BMW 320i and believe it or not there are die cast models available of the very car. He drove a Team Faltz 320i at Mosport teamed with Eddie Cheever. The car was in fact the orange coloured car that Ronnie drove in Jagermeister colours in 1977, but with different sponsors when at Mosport. Great thanks, didn't know that!
And looks like another project on the table... I see Sideways have a white kit of the 320i for sale and the sponsor stickers are not that difficult to replicate. Now only finding the time to actually build all these cars! Edit: found a decal sheet!  |
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Post by charleselan on May 8, 2020 14:48:24 GMT
I was not aware that Sideways made "white kit" versions of the BMW 320i Group 5 cars, which suddenly opens up a whole load of possibilities, as with you. Is that "Indy Decals" who make the transfers/decals if so i wonder if they do 1.32nd ones for the Ronnie Jagermeister car. I know they do 1/20th scale ones for the Tamiya plastic kit as i saw them this morning when doing a bit of research. Here is one of my photos of Ronnie in the Jagermeister BMW 320i during the Silverstone 6 Hours race just about to turn into Stowe Corner. That was a great vantage point back in those far off days even for a mere spectator as I was back then. The photo is a scan from a 7 X 5 inch print, I had a set done of all different view points of the car on track. All taken with my original big heavy Russian made Zenith E camera and 300mm f5.6 telephoto by Optomax; I learnt all my skills with that set up and still have it stored away today.  |
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Post by René on May 8, 2020 16:11:57 GMT
I was not aware that Sideways made "white kit" versions of the BMW 320i Group 5 cars, which suddenly opens up a whole load of possibilities, as with you. Is that "Indy Decals" who make the transfers/decals if so i wonder if they do 1.32nd ones for the Ronnie Jagermeister car. I know they do 1/20th scale ones for the Tamiya plastic kit as i saw them this morning when doing a bit of research. Here is one of my photos of Ronnie in the Jagermeister BMW 320i during the Silverstone 6 Hours race just about to turn into Stowe Corner. That was a great vantage point back in those far off days even for a mere spectator as I was back then. The photo is a scan from a 7 X 5 inch print, I had a set done of all different view points of the car on track. All taken with my original big heavy Russian made Zenith E camera and 300mm f5.6 telephoto by Optomax; I learnt all my skills with that set up and still have it stored away today. Great photo of Ronnie in the 320i!
Yes the white kits open up all sorts of possibilities. They have become a trend as more manufacturers offer them. Slot-it has several Group C and DTM cars as white kit and so does Policar with their classic F1 cars. You can have a Lotus 72 or March 701 as white kit to create your own version.
The decal sheet I found is from a 1/20 kit so if I don't find a 1/32 I will scan and upgrade it and then print on decal paper. I did find a 1/32 Jägermeister sheet on Pattos Place.
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Post by robmarsh on May 8, 2020 19:23:58 GMT
Ah ha Rene you can do the Team Gunston March 701 and Lotus 72E then.
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Post by René on May 11, 2020 16:16:41 GMT
Ah ha Rene you can do the Team Gunston March 701 and Lotus 72E then. Rob, Scalextric have already produced the Lotus in Gunston colours!  |
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Post by charleselan on May 12, 2020 7:07:11 GMT
That Scalextric Lotus 72E in Gunston colours actually looks better than their rendition of Ronnie's JPS 1973 car which to me did not feel that good. Just something about the model wasn't there. The front wheels and tyres on both models are too big in my opinion, and the tyres are far more square in section than they should be.
I believe that Policar are releasing a John Love Team Gunston March 701 adding to a growing range of that particular car.
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Post by robmarsh on May 12, 2020 7:21:19 GMT
The Scalex Lotus looks like a 72D as the radiator ducts are not integral to the bodywork. The 72D should be in Lucky Strike colours for Dave Charlton. Team Gunston used the 72E only I think.
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Post by charleselan on May 12, 2020 10:09:23 GMT
Rob,
It is an "E" spec 72 as driven by Ian Scheckter and the radiator pods are sort of correct but due to Scalextrics manufacturing process (basically trying to get as many different models from the same production) the pods are not blended in as you correctly mention they should be. A number of die cast manufacturers have done a similar thing and it doesn't look right. In fact when the "E" came out in 1973 the deformable side structures made the sides of the car ever so slightly wider as well but I suppose hardly noticeable in small scale models.
JC
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