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Post by charleselan on Oct 5, 2020 13:35:43 GMT
Next day second races are often about the same, deja vu with slight differences. Josef Newgarden adopted Colton Herta's swooping inside move to pass entering Turn 7 to good effect, so it can be Groundhog Day even for the drivers.
Will Power made no mistakes and won easily, annoyed only by Herta and Alexander Rossi. Some musical chair sour notes with Sebastian Bourdais, signed for next year with the dysfunctional A.J. Foyt team, in a 3rd car in this race but even with his proven ability unable to coax any speed. Dalton Kellett is out of his element, Charlie Kimball is reckless, and I doubt A.J. would want either to chauffeur him to his favorite hamburger stand.
Colton Herta was again too hard on his tyres and Leigh Diffey too obnoxious. Deja vu 
I actually managed to watch this one live from about lap 12 onwards, it was live on YouTube thanks to a country that i have no idea who they are, if that makes sense. The language is somewhat alien to me and sounds sometimes Hispanic and then Eastern European, but the visual coverage comes direct from the American feed so easy to follow. In fact although the commentary is undecipherable to me it is infinitely better than listening to the likes of Croft et al. A good and interesting race, with an excellent and trouble free drive by Will Power, nothing self inflicted also. It was interesting to see young Herta hold back in the early stages of his final stint and look after his tyres and then come on strong later on, although I think he left his charge too late. Something I could not understand watching the timing screens was the time lost by the likes of Scott Dixon and Felix in their last pit stops, by my calculations it was something like 4 - 5 seconds for Scott, and much more for Felix. I must say that the racing had everything that the lamentable F1 lacks, always interesting and something going on right to the end. Even the Indy road circuit looked half reasonable to these tired eyes. Agree in that it was painful watching a class driver like Sebastian Bourdais trolling around intuit Foyt machine, a total waste of a superb driver. |
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Post by René on Oct 5, 2020 14:24:02 GMT
I found the second race not as exciting as the first although it wasn't bad.
Well deserved win for Power though. Colton Herta is talented and fast but needs to balance and plan his race a bit better. But he's young and he's fast which is the most important. A shame Rinus Veekay was not in the mix this time but he had no fresh set of tyres left I believe. But he has his podium and almost certain the Rookie of the year title.
Newgarden did all he needed to do with a win and a fourth so the title will be decided in St. Pete's. That will be an exciting race for sure.
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Post by Carl on Oct 5, 2020 15:26:18 GMT
I missed both Dixon and Rosenqvist losing so much time during their last pit stops. Their crews and equipment are separate, so for both to be delayed that long was curious. Time can be gained and lost when the pace car is deployed, but to lose 4 to 5 under normal conditions is unusual.
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Post by charleselan on Oct 5, 2020 15:43:29 GMT
I missed both Dixon and Rosenqvist losing so much time during their last pit stops. Their crews and equipment are separate, so for both to be delayed that long was curious. Time can be gained and lost when the pace car is deployed, but to lose 4 to 5 under normal conditions is unusual. The thing was that I had been keeping abreast of the gap between Dixon and Newgarden and it was slowly closing. Before the pit stop (final one) it was around 14 seconds, but after the stop it had gone up to around 20 seconds. With Rosenqvist he had been right with Dixon if memory serves me correctly but after the stops he plummeted down the order for no apparent reason. Not only that the people he had been running with were way ahead of him as well. I felt that the closing stages were quite interesting as the gap between the leading drivers closed, at one time I really thought that Herta had a chance of catching Power but after getting to around 1.5 seconds he ran out of steam. |
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Post by Carl on Oct 5, 2020 17:19:27 GMT
I missed both Dixon and Rosenqvist losing so much time during their last pit stops. Their crews and equipment are separate, so for both to be delayed that long was curious. Time can be gained and lost when the pace car is deployed, but to lose 4 to 5 under normal conditions is unusual. The thing was that I had been keeping abreast of the gap between Dixon and Newgarden and it was slowly closing. Before the pit stop (final one) it was around 14 seconds, but after the stop it had gone up to around 20 seconds. With Rosenqvist he had been right with Dixon if memory serves me correctly but after the stops he plummeted down the order for no apparent reason. Not only that the people he had been running with were way ahead of him as well. I felt that the closing stages were quite interesting as the gap between the leading drivers closed, at one time I really thought that Herta had a chance of catching Power but after getting to around 1.5 seconds he ran out of steam.
Sometimes, where a car comes out following a pitstop can dictate time gained or lost. One possible scenario is that Newgarden rejoined in a more advantageous position which allowed him to gain time while Dixon lost time behind slower traffic, pure speculation because I wasn't paying close attention and didn't notice the increased gap.  However, I'm fairly sure Felix Rosenqvist's serious loss of track position followed being hit by Charlie Kimball and knocked onto the grass shortly before his last stop.
Earlier this year, Team Ganassi's Mike Hull commented about a trend of pit stop clumsiness related to pandemic precaution:
“We certainly haven’t been flawless as a team,” Chip Ganassi Racing managing director Mike Hull told IndyStar. “I think teams of people are learning how to work as a team of people in an almost incubator environment. We don’t have the open communication in the standard form everybody’s used to.”
Had Chip Ganassi taken part in Dixon's stop, clumsiness would have been certain, but I just don't know how so much time was lost to Newgarden.
Colton Herta reminds me of Max Verstappen, with close to as much natural talent and needing the maturity experience will bring. He's clearly on the cusp of greatness.
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Post by chrisb on Oct 7, 2020 8:14:56 GMT
can't even find it on utub, I am going to have to do something for next year as this sounds like 'real' motor racing
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Post by charleselan on Oct 7, 2020 11:53:57 GMT
can't even find it on utub, I am going to have to do something for next year as this sounds like 'real' motor racing Chris as I mentioned above I viewed on YouTube live but with foreign speaking commentary which was no problem to me. Here is the complete race two from the sea source that I used, I don't think anyone really needs the commentary anyway, in actual fact it is quite amusing at times. |
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Post by charleselan on Oct 7, 2020 11:58:40 GMT
Carl,
I missed Rosenqvist being hit by Kimball and that would indeed account for his delays. I just could not understand nDixon loosing that amount of time when his stop seemed to run smoothly and he re-entered the race without any real hinderance.
Colton Herta certainly is a very talented young driver, an American I would dearly love to see in F1 but only in a competitive car. If not forget it and make a career in IndyCar.
JC
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Post by Carl on Oct 7, 2020 18:11:46 GMT
can't even find it on utub, I am going to have to do something for next year as this sounds like 'real' motor racing Chris as I mentioned above I viewed on YouTube live but with foreign speaking commentary which was no problem to me. Here is the complete race two from the sea source that I used, I don't think anyone really needs the commentary anyway, in actual fact it is quite amusing at times. This forbidding message stunned me:
Video unavailable to you
NBC Universal has blocked it due to your criticism of Leigh Diffey
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Post by charleselan on Oct 8, 2020 12:58:55 GMT
Chris as I mentioned above I viewed on YouTube live but with foreign speaking commentary which was no problem to me. Here is the complete race two from the sea source that I used, I don't think anyone really needs the commentary anyway, in actual fact it is quite amusing at times. This forbidding message stunned me:
Video unavailable to you
NBC Universal has blocked it due to your criticism of Leigh Diffey
Carl, Were you Geo Restricted from viewing the video? If so this is where a VPN or SmartDNS comes in very useful. John Charles |
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Post by René on Oct 8, 2020 15:02:12 GMT
Chris as I mentioned above I viewed on YouTube live but with foreign speaking commentary which was no problem to me. Here is the complete race two from the sea source that I used, I don't think anyone really needs the commentary anyway, in actual fact it is quite amusing at times. This forbidding message stunned me:
Video unavailable to you
NBC Universal has blocked it due to your criticism of Leigh Diffey
They know everything you do and think Carl, everything!   |
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Post by Carl on Oct 9, 2020 16:23:23 GMT
This forbidding message stunned me:
Video unavailable to you
NBC Universal has blocked it due to your criticism of Leigh Diffey
Carl, Were you Geo Restricted from viewing the video? If so this is where a VPN or SmartDNS comes in very useful. John Charles John Charles, Yes, but having seen the race I wasn't annoyed. The increasing complexities of global capitalism technology have confused me for years and I feel the same as I did in high school when, after having excelled in mathematics, I took calculus and could no longer calculate to save my soul. Thank you for the excellent advice! My browser has sent notices about VPN and now I know its usefulness. I understand it offers more secure encoding and will further explore it, but overall I miss the days when ordinary communication didn't need to be encrypted. I'm one of the cultural outliers who's never joined Facebook and doubt the motives of popular social media. The disingenuous acceptance by Mark Zuckerberg, who looks every inch the intergalactic alien, of propaganda from anyone with cash in hand is inexcusable. The internet suffered dramatic distortions after an altruistic beginning, as Aldous Huxley's warning remained unheard.
- Carl
I advocate a return to envelopes and sealing wax!
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Post by charleselan on Oct 9, 2020 18:02:42 GMT
VPN's are an excellent extra level of security when online Carl. They also offer online anonymity which is no bad ting in these times. Of course the most interesting feature is being able to access programs from other countries that are Geo Restricted, essential for us living in Europe when we wish to view things in the Uk that are not allowed in normal circumstances.
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Post by chrisb on Oct 10, 2020 6:34:15 GMT
VPN ? how does one get this?
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Post by charleselan on Oct 10, 2020 15:12:17 GMT
I am currently using Nord VPN and it is very good Chris, having used several different providers over the years. Nord is advertised on UK terrestrial TV at times, so one would be inclined to think it was a sound company. Just put that into your search engine on your browser and their site should come up. There you can check what packages they provide and costings etc, other providers are much the same like IPVanish.
I have just recently seen that Firefox also have introduced one along with their internet browser, so that should be good.
If you decide on subscribing to any it is a simple procedure to download and install the program, after which you register with user name and password through the opened program and away you go.
Another good thing about being online with a VPN is that your internet speed remains constantly good, whereas some IP providers are known to reduce your band width after prolonged use, like when streaming videos etc; the VPN overrides that.
I also use what is called a SmartDNS which you also subscribe to (although there are some free ones out there, they are not anywhere near as good) and this is configured on your Router. SmartDNS basically hide where you are GEO Located so you can view stuff from countries other than your own residence, like with a VPN, but do not provide the same level of security, although some claim to, and all are better than just using your own IP.
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