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Post by chrisb on May 30, 2019 21:31:24 GMT
hear hear Rene, the problem is that the ones with half of a brain are the ones in power....
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Post by chrisb on May 30, 2019 21:33:25 GMT
Mikael, I was going to mention Ascari and from what I have read and understood the son was far greater than the dad,
what about the Stucks?
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Post by Carl on May 30, 2019 23:46:29 GMT
Mikael, I was going to mention Ascari and from what I have read and understood the son was far greater than the dad, what about the Stucks? I saw Hans Stuck Jr. race a BMW 3.0 CSL at Laguna Seca. He was faster than anyone and inch perfect lap after lap. Both father and son were superb drivers.
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Post by Carl on May 31, 2019 1:14:44 GMT
Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence and third American President, once wrote regarding the institution of slavery, " I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just "
Extraordinary wisdom that also fits our time. Jefferson owned slaves and had several children from a decades long relationship with one, Sally Hemings, but his wisdom and awareness of injustice, even his own, is undeniable and relevant today.
The hollow pompadour now residing is incapable of wisdom or reflection and the chance that we may, in the future course of events, be entirely reliant on dumb luck for the preservation of democracy scares the hell out of me. There are cinematic moments that resonate: Bergman's iconic chess game, but with an idiot challenging the grim reaper, and "Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."
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Post by chrisb on May 31, 2019 5:43:41 GMT
ahh the immortal words as spoken by the indomitable Bette Davies, and it was a bumpy ride, Kurosawa was always the master to me when it came to scene setting, Yojimbo being an example, of how you play one war lord off against another, is this something Putin is doing I wonder
and we have the dubious honour of um, 'welcoming' Mr President shortly, to meet up with his good friend Boris the bodger, no doubt with ms faragio working out how they can introduce a health insurance scheme that makes them untold billions at the cost of us poor millions
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Post by charleselan on May 31, 2019 14:02:33 GMT
With all this negativity going on around us all, I for one was truly inspired last evening following two interviews shown on the UK C4 News program. Firstly there was an interview with the very successful Liverpool football manager Juergen Klopp. To be truthful I have not read much about the man as I take little interest in the game of feet ball these days, although was a big fan in my younger years, as i was of all sports. So hearing this man speak was unbelievable as he did not talk in the normal UK footballer parlance, but above all he was educated and coherent to a level that made all of the UK's political class look like fools (which sadly most are). Juergen was reminded by the interviewer ( I think Jon Snow but not certain) that some had said he would become a politician himself. Mr Klopp refuted that with clarity and said he would never seek such office, what a shame and tragedy as the world need men & women like this in places of great influence. The second interview was of a truly amazing man who at the age of 94 is about to undertake a parachute jump during the D- Day commemorative events, re-enacting his jump made during the great invasion. The man was one Harry Read and his interview was both inspiring and moving, a truly remarkable man who although in advanced years was as sharp as a tick. The swivel eyed xenophobic clowns that are currently causing such distress and disruption should look and learn from these two gentlemen, but sadly I fear it would be lost on them as simple understanding is completely lost on them. Here is a link to Harry Read and his proposed parachute jump:- www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/13/d-day-veteran-harry-read-94-parachute-into-normandy-75th-anniversary |
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Post by robmarsh on May 31, 2019 14:51:40 GMT
Very interesting story about Harry Read. Chapeau Harry. Thanks for sharing that Charles. The article also mentions Jock Hutton who jumped in the 70th anniversary celebration and will do so again this time aged 94. Jock Hutton is of particular interest to me as he was a member of C Squadron SAS, which was the official name of the Rhodesian SAS and which is still in the Regiment's order of battle. Jock, a short man, but as tough as nails fought in the Rhodesian/ Zimbabwe bush war. In fact on one raid into Zambia he jumped from the same plane he had jumped into Arnhem from.
I didn't know Jock to speak to but I did see him outside Buckingham Palace on the 60th anniversary of VE day on 10 July 2005.
Respect for both men.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 21:31:49 GMT
here you go, some more information, and some pictures of the Indy Car driver protection screen.  The first aeroscreen design, tested last year, looked really good; but this one ... Seeing photos of it, I came to think about the 1978 Renault Le Mans car. It's (almost) as closed as that one; well-nigh impossible to see how the driver works (except from a few specific angles).    Renault certainly pushed the boundaries of open cockpit with that 'screen'. I had a look on line about it, and found that Renault were trying to compete with the Porsche 935's so set out to build a 'hare' that could out run them. The bubble was worth 8kph on the Mulsanne straight, so a significant amount on top of the 300+ kph they were pulling without it. However in testing the drivers found it claustraphobic and that it trapped heat, so only an earlier version of it was raced. Your point about being able to see the drivers 'work' is a good one, I'd argue that we haven't been able to see F1 drivers at work from the trackside for a couple of decades now. The cockpits are so tight, the sides are so high and drivers set so low that apart from the inclination of the helmet and the odd flash of their gloved knuckles trackside spectators get no view of the drivers efforts. As F1 is largely a televised (streamed) sport, I think the answer is probably 'in car cameras'. I saw coverage of a DTM race a wee while back, and they must have three or four cameras mounted inside the cars. There were side on views of the drivers, views of their feet dancing on the pedals, views looking back on the driver, and views from over their shoulders. You really could see the work the drivers were putting in, as well as the effects of the braking cornering and acceleration forces on them. It was impressive stuff, something F1 could consider. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 9:02:55 GMT
With all this negativity going on around us all, I for one was truly inspired last evening following two interviews shown on the UK C4 News program. Firstly there was an interview with the very successful Liverpool football manager Juergen Klopp. To be truthful I have not read much about the man as I take little interest in the game of feet ball these days, although was a big fan in my younger years, as i was of all sports. So hearing this man speak was unbelievable as he did not talk in the normal UK footballer parlance, but above all he was educated and coherent to a level that made all of the UK's political class look like fools (which sadly most are). Juergen was reminded by the interviewer ( I think Jon Snow but not certain) that some had said he would become a politician himself. Mr Klopp refuted that with clarity and said he would never seek such office, what a shame and tragedy as the world need men & women like this in places of great influence. The second interview was of a truly amazing man who at the age of 94 is about to undertake a parachute jump during the D- Day commemorative events, re-enacting his jump made during the great invasion. The man was one Harry Read and his interview was both inspiring and moving, a truly remarkable man who although in advanced years was as sharp as a tick. The swivel eyed xenophobic clowns that are currently causing such distress and disruption should look and learn from these two gentlemen, but sadly I fear it would be lost on them as simple understanding is completely lost on them. Here is a link to Harry Read and his proposed parachute jump:- www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/13/d-day-veteran-harry-read-94-parachute-into-normandy-75th-anniversaryGiven Liverpool are about to play Tottenham, in the Champions League final, I thought it was good timing to look up the Klopp interview on line. He certainly comes across well. Far more articulate than my lifelong hero (also a former Liverpool manager - Kenny Daligish) and just as intelligent and passionate. Next I'll check out the Harry Read link - thanks. |
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Post by René on Jun 1, 2019 9:34:09 GMT
The first aeroscreen design, tested last year, looked really good; but this one ... Seeing photos of it, I came to think about the 1978 Renault Le Mans car. It's (almost) as closed as that one; well-nigh impossible to see how the driver works (except from a few specific angles). Renault certainly pushed the boundaries of open cockpit with that 'screen'. I had a look on line about it, and found that Renault were trying to compete with the Porsche 935's so set out to build a 'hare' that could out run them. The bubble was worth 8kph on the Mulsanne straight, so a significant amount on top of the 300+ kph they were pulling without it. However in testing the drivers found it claustraphobic and that it trapped heat, so only an earlier version of it was raced. Your point about being able to see the drivers 'work' is a good one, I'd argue that we haven't been able to see F1 drivers at work from the trackside for a couple of decades now. The cockpits are so tight, the sides are so high and drivers set so low that apart from the inclination of the helmet and the odd flash of their gloved knuckles trackside spectators get no view of the drivers efforts. As F1 is largely a televised (streamed) sport, I think the answer is probably 'in car cameras'. I saw coverage of a DTM race a wee while back, and they must have three or four cameras mounted inside the cars. There were side on views of the drivers, views of their feet dancing on the pedals, views looking back on the driver, and views from over their shoulders. You really could see the work the drivers were putting in, as well as the effects of the braking cornering and acceleration forces on them. It was impressive stuff, something F1 could consider. Very much agree Jim. F1 could do so much more to improve the coverage of the races. Indycar does a much better job in general to capture the speed and the violence of a race car. F1 coverage is mostly too clinical like a computer game, even if the Monaco coverage wasn't that bad. But so much more could be possible and to put more cameras inside the cockpit is certainly one of them. And think about the famous Senna footage of Monaco qualifying. Why is that still so breathtaking? It transfers not only the speed but also the hard work and all the vibrations and noise inside the car. Silly they still haven't learned from that. |
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Post by mikael on Jun 1, 2019 13:36:26 GMT
A Danish newspaper had a link to this article about mind-games in top-level racing. Surprising, to say the least!
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Post by charleselan on Jun 1, 2019 18:31:05 GMT
A Danish newspaper had a link to this article about mind-games in top-level racing. Surprising, to say the least!
Interesting piece Mikael, and if truthful no surprise at all. For me the ultimate mind game is just for someone to get in the car and let their driving do the talking; just like a Jim Clark; JYS; Ronnie or a Gilles would have done. I wonder if Nico picked anything up from Mr Schumacher and deployed it against Lewis Hamilton, he obviously got into Hamilton's head as he still hasn't forgiven him which is very sad. |
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Post by charleselan on Jun 1, 2019 18:38:55 GMT
With all this negativity going on around us all, I for one was truly inspired last evening following two interviews shown on the UK C4 News program. Firstly there was an interview with the very successful Liverpool football manager Juergen Klopp. To be truthful I have not read much about the man as I take little interest in the game of feet ball these days, although was a big fan in my younger years, as i was of all sports. So hearing this man speak was unbelievable as he did not talk in the normal UK footballer parlance, but above all he was educated and coherent to a level that made all of the UK's political class look like fools (which sadly most are). Juergen was reminded by the interviewer ( I think Jon Snow but not certain) that some had said he would become a politician himself. Mr Klopp refuted that with clarity and said he would never seek such office, what a shame and tragedy as the world need men & women like this in places of great influence. The second interview was of a truly amazing man who at the age of 94 is about to undertake a parachute jump during the D- Day commemorative events, re-enacting his jump made during the great invasion. The man was one Harry Read and his interview was both inspiring and moving, a truly remarkable man who although in advanced years was as sharp as a tick. The swivel eyed xenophobic clowns that are currently causing such distress and disruption should look and learn from these two gentlemen, but sadly I fear it would be lost on them as simple understanding is completely lost on them. Here is a link to Harry Read and his proposed parachute jump:- www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/13/d-day-veteran-harry-read-94-parachute-into-normandy-75th-anniversaryGiven Liverpool are about to play Tottenham, in the Champions League final, I thought it was good timing to look up the Klopp interview on line. He certainly comes across well. Far more articulate than my lifelong hero (also a former Liverpool manager - Kenny Daligish) and just as intelligent and passionate. Next I'll check out the Harry Read link - thanks. Pleased to hear that you could seek out the interview with Juergen Klopp out there in NZ. He really is an intelligent and articulate human being, and pretty obviously inspirational. My memories of Liverpool football club go back to my teens when managed by the great Bill Shankley, now there was a great man. One of his great players the ultra hard man Tommy Smith sadly passed away recently; Kenny Dalglish spoke wonderfully about Tommy who helped him immensely when he first moved to the club. Hope you get to catch up with the Harry Read article as he is a truly inspirational man, mind you most of my parents generation were if we are completely honest. |
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Post by chrisb on Jun 2, 2019 8:34:00 GMT
wow - Mikael, that is some article, and one that does show how ruthless some people feel they need to be in order to win, that is also quite interesting, did Ascari, Fangio, Jimmy, Jackie, Ronnie, Gilles employ such tactics, if not why was that? and why did others like Black Jack, who saw it more as a tease, or did he? always tried to wind up people on the grid. I am quite taken aback that someone would resort to those tactics but not wholly surprised if I am truthful,
Stirling's mind games consisted of appearing to be racing at less than 100% to make it look as if it was as easy as possible, knowing that would get into the head of his competitors, but that to me is clever not ruthless, is that similar to Senna who was known as cut-throat when overtaking so anyone being lapped would get out of his way quicker than his competitors, which again I thought clever, perhaps his other tactics were less so but,
mind games [ahh John's wonderful record springs to mind] is a fascinating subject but that was an eye-opener
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Post by charleselan on Jun 2, 2019 11:13:37 GMT
One of the finest bits of mind games, but also humorous was JYS relating Graham Hill walking around the grid and looking at peoples cars paying attention to certain opponents tyres. When said driver caught Graham's eye he would drawn in a deep breath through his teeth and shake his head knowingly. Absolutely priceless and so typical of the very great man.
I find it very hard to warm to the antics relayed by Nico Rosberg about Michael, but unfortunately not surprised as nothing seemed out of bounds for Mr Schumacher.
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