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Post by Carl on May 27, 2019 5:38:09 GMT
What reasons are given by those who hate Cyril Arbiteboul? And who, with Vettel during the interview, is the lovely Lee? I suspect that person is not lovely at all...  |
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Post by Carl on May 27, 2019 5:53:32 GMT
Hi, i think you Knights, Kings and Gods will enjoy this video posted by Formula 1 on Youtube. Will Buxton going through a corner by corner history of Monaco's 90 year history. Some great footage in there Thanks Jim,
A very cool video. For several years, Will Buxton was the pit reporter at NBC Sports when they broadcast Formula One, always creative, well informed and personable.
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Post by chrisb on May 27, 2019 6:18:47 GMT
i did try and watch the highlights on C4 but confess the sound was turned off very quickly as DC and his issues, or tissues, quickly grate, his slagging off LeClerc was comical if it wasn't so pathetic, and as for Lewis, drove well, whinged better, thought Seb drove well and Bottas was not so fortunate, was there any question of team orders?
disappointing race for Renault - who are fast becoming my hoped for team, from what I understand Renault are now going to up their investment etc - which I think is great news, as for Cyril, i like the man, anyone who stands up to RB i respect
the Indy sounded great, tragic it is not readily available over here,
the lovely Lee McKenzie, with the honeyed voice, insightful mind and dazzling smile,
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 7:49:25 GMT
Yes I noticed that too. Some of the shots were really good and the speeds are indeed mind blowing. I think they should try to mount a camera at eye level of the driver. That should give an even better impression of the fact that some corners and the uphill part are almost blind. Great stuff though. Great point Rene, they missed an opportunity to make good use of the much maligned Halo to reposition the forward facing car camera on the Halo, and give us a real drivers eye view of the circuits. BTW - have you seen that Indy Car have announced that they will introduce an Aero Screen from next season. From the information and pictures I've seen it appears to be the combination of the balistic screen and halo concepts that the FIA trialed, It gives a smoother profile than the plain Halo, so would address the threat to the driver from small debris, and aesthetic issues that people critisise about the Halo. So I wonder if it will be adopted in F1 too (part of the 2021 regulations?) |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 8:11:03 GMT
What reasons are given by those who hate Cyril Arbiteboul? If you check out any Renault / Abiteboul related articles on MS or GP24/7, and you'll see the kinds of comments. As you might expect, there is not a great deal of reason to the hate. A lot of it seems to relate to Abiteboul's aggressive personality, his nationality, and ill informed confused views around the Renault power unit and Team Renault. |
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Post by charleselan on May 27, 2019 12:02:37 GMT
I am not going to comment on the grand procession, for it was what it was.
A few days ago I read that Sean Braches (probably spelt wrong but not interested in looking it up as he is of no consequence to me) of Liberty Media has stated that F1 needs to be back as a Free To View format. Wow! As if one needs a degree Astro Physics to know that fact. Funny how it takes time for that simple matter to sink in with those that should know.
Ecclestone's legacy will live on for years and the filthy unwashed who used to form the backbone of motor sport fandoms will continue to diminish in the face of having to pay extortionate fees to watch a sport they once loved, let alone bringing in impoverished new younger fans.
Interestingly on a slightly differing tack, whilst fiddling about looking up live steams of the various motor sport being shown yesterday afternoon I found out that in Switzerland they still have Free to View F1 live. It is broadcast on three different channels in the three languages of region for the country (French; German & Italian). It is quite legal and correct to steam it through ones computer using a VPN (I use Nord currently which is excellent) set to Switzerland. If you are in the Uk or that is your home language then it would be quite easy to turn the sound down and listen to the BBC 5 Live radio commentary at the same time.
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Post by Carl on May 27, 2019 16:41:20 GMT
i did try and watch the highlights on C4 but confess the sound was turned off very quickly as DC and his issues, or tissues, quickly grate, his slagging off LeClerc was comical if it wasn't so pathetic, and as for Lewis, drove well, whinged better, thought Seb drove well and Bottas was not so fortunate, was there any question of team orders? disappointing race for Renault - who are fast becoming my hoped for team, from what I understand Renault are now going to up their investment etc - which I think is great news, as for Cyril, i like the man, anyone who stands up to RB i respect the Indy sounded great, tragic it is not readily available over here, the lovely Lee McKenzie, with the honeyed voice, insightful mind and dazzling smile, I can never forget Lee McKenzie, who was nominated as reserve companion for the trophy (me) in case the first winner of the women's GP series was not attractive. So far the lovely Lee has not been needed. |
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Post by Carl on May 27, 2019 16:55:16 GMT
Yes I noticed that too. Some of the shots were really good and the speeds are indeed mind blowing. I think they should try to mount a camera at eye level of the driver. That should give an even better impression of the fact that some corners and the uphill part are almost blind. Great stuff though. Great point Rene, they missed an opportunity to make good use of the much maligned Halo to reposition the forward facing car camera on the Halo, and give us a real drivers eye view of the circuits. BTW - have you seen that Indy Car have announced that they will introduce an Aero Screen from next season. From the information and pictures I've seen it appears to be the combination of the balistic screen and halo concepts that the FIA trialed, It gives a smoother profile than the plain Halo, so would address the threat to the driver from small debris, and aesthetic issues that people critisise about the Halo. So I wonder if it will be adopted in F1 too (part of the 2021 regulations?) Here are Scott Dixon's impressions
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Post by charleselan on May 27, 2019 19:38:53 GMT
i did try and watch the highlights on C4 but confess the sound was turned off very quickly as DC and his issues, or tissues, quickly grate, his slagging off LeClerc was comical if it wasn't so pathetic, and as for Lewis, drove well, whinged better, thought Seb drove well and Bottas was not so fortunate, was there any question of team orders? disappointing race for Renault - who are fast becoming my hoped for team, from what I understand Renault are now going to up their investment etc - which I think is great news, as for Cyril, i like the man, anyone who stands up to RB i respect the Indy sounded great, tragic it is not readily available over here, the lovely Lee McKenzie, with the honeyed voice, insightful mind and dazzling smile, Ah! Chris I feel that you may have a thing for Ms McKenzie   . Daughter of Bob McKenzie a national newspaper motorsport correspondent of the past. Nepotism is rife in motor sport journalism circles as the amount of sons and daughters of previous generations surpasses that of the BBC. It is no wonder the blighters all live in their tiny bubble. |
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Post by robmarsh on May 28, 2019 6:50:29 GMT
Nepotism is rife in the driving circles of motor racing as well. How many sons of former F1 drivers have made it quite far in motor sport due to their fathers connections and not due to an abundance of talent.
Of more interest how many sons have proved better than their fathers. Nico Rosberg comes closest to my mind. I would be interested in other comparisons and views.
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Post by chrisb on May 28, 2019 19:02:53 GMT
Great chat chaps,
nepotism is everywhere, as the oldest adage said" not what you know but who [or your Daddy] knows"
I always though Mikey got a raw deal in F1, it was the driving standards that i felt he struggled with and the negative press he got didn't help, but for me he had the speed but possibly the wrong team at the wrong time -
although I am a great admirer of Damon and am proud of all he achieved he did not achieve as much as Graham, nor had that gritty determination to carry on, but a damm good driver
but the other way around, Jacques achieved a lot more than Father Gilles in terms of wins and championships but nowhere near his speed,
Jim, I'm not sure I totally agree with Nico and Keke, I was a fan of Nico's in F2 and Williams and his championship winning year was sheer class, grit and determination, whereas Keke again I feel was out and out quicker and quite underrated when you think about and I do so wish there was the film of the 160mph lap, that was some lap
the new Indycar protection screen is a damm sight more appealing that the toilet seat, and as I understand it was designed by Red Bull maybe it will replace the hideous things, but then why not go fully enclosed? with a fighter pilot ejector seat?
who says money can't buy me [not love but] speed as Juan Pablo is now Strolling's driver coach,
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Post by Carl on May 29, 2019 0:31:43 GMT
With all due respect to Red Bull, I think the combined aero screen & toilet seat is either a hoax or the result of a toxic caffeine overdose.
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Post by Carl on May 29, 2019 0:35:00 GMT
Nepotism is rife in the driving circles of motor racing as well. How many sons of former F1 drivers have made it quite far in motor sport due to their fathers connections and not due to an abundance of talent. Of more interest how many sons have proved better than their fathers. Nico Rosberg comes closest to my mind. I would be interested in other comparisons and views. The one that comes to mind is Michael Andretti, who was at least the equal of his father, and in my opinion even better at Indy, but suffered from his father's controlling nature. The advice to remain based in America while driving Formula One for McLaren was counterproductive. Flying back and forth worked for Mario, but doing the same years later prevented Michael's gelling with the team. |
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Post by chrisb on May 29, 2019 4:43:52 GMT
one comment I did overhear was EJ's plea for the return of Stefano Domenicali at Ferrari, something that is not such a bad idea methinks
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. Daughter of Bob McKenzie a national newspaper motorsport correspondent of the past. Nepotism is rife in motor sport journalism circles as the amount of sons and daughters of previous generations surpasses that of the BBC.
