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Post by René on Oct 16, 2017 21:58:35 GMT
The last chance for Vettel?
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Post by Jamie on Oct 17, 2017 22:25:26 GMT
He needs to win this one and I think he will.
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Post by René on Oct 17, 2017 22:30:25 GMT
Hi Jamie. Yes, he needed to win to previous three GP's too but he really needs to win this one. A DNF for Lewis would also help his cause! But most important, let's hope for a great race! 😎
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Post by charleselan on Oct 18, 2017 9:53:23 GMT
Gentlemen, Just to add some spice I have voted for young Max, he is on a bit of a roll at the moment  . |
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Post by René on Oct 18, 2017 15:37:43 GMT
JC, Max is on a roll indeed and could be a very likely winner. Wouldn't be good for Seb though but I am sure Max couldn't care less! |
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Post by Jamie on Oct 18, 2017 17:46:45 GMT
Indeed Charles, my finger hovered over the Verstappen button before I opted for Seb.
I think he’ll feel like he has nothing to lose and will go for it now, at least I hope that’s what will happen anyway...
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Post by Carl on Oct 18, 2017 19:26:06 GMT
I have chosen Daniel Ricciardo, whose ultimate pace is extraordinary and overdue to propel his #3 to the top step of the podium. Besides, what an opportunity to be in Texas and gross out everyone with champagne in a cowboy boot. It all adds up to maximum motivation for the smiling assassin.
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Post by mikael on Oct 18, 2017 23:40:36 GMT
Hamilton has won all of the three USGP of the present era. This year he's more focused than ever; and more calm and in personal balance than ever (so it appears, at least). Also, he considers this race as a second home race. So I think he'll take this one too.
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Post by Carl on Oct 20, 2017 3:02:07 GMT
Hello Mikael,
Your avatar sure looks like John Surtees driving a Formula One Honda in heaven. Is it Big John in period or a heavenly blessed historic racer?
Kind regards, Carl
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Post by mikael on Oct 20, 2017 3:38:39 GMT
Hello Carl It's "Pete Aron" (James Garner) driving the brand-new "Yamura" at Spa, in "Grand Prix" (Frankenheimer 1966). Interestingly, in this movie, "Pete Aron" uses the helmet (design) of Chris Amon (not visible in the avatar, due to the angle of the shot), while "Jean-Pierre Sarti" (Yves Montand), in Ferrari, uses the helmet of John Surtees. Best wishes Mikael Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted![]() |
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Post by Carl on Oct 20, 2017 5:34:28 GMT
Thanks Mikael,
When I can't tell Hondas from Yamuras and John Surtees from James Garner, it must be past my bedtime. I guess I wanted the photo to be Surtees, who deserved to be knighted but may have roamed too far afield with his choice of racing bikes and cars to be so honored.
That is a very well made movie thanks to director John Frankenheimer and the wonderful cinematography presenting Grand Prix cars as poetry in motion. But Pete Aron was an ass.
Best wishes, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Oct 20, 2017 17:51:35 GMT
The absurdity of these current F1 regulations no known boundary do they. We have the young Kiwi Brendon Hartley making his GP debut and even before the lad gets to drive the car it is announced that he will have a 30 place grid penalty!! Personally I feel that the idiots who thought up the e rules should be taken out and dragged through a bed of stinging nettles, and that is just for starters. I cannot think of any other sport that has such a ridiculous set off rules that this joke called F1 now have.
On a more sane note, some very interesting comments regarding the 1966 film "Grand Prix". The somewhat strange interpretation of the film characters being aligned to the real life participants is most interesting. I think that the format for the film was laid out before the 1966 really got underway and at that time they were not to know that "Big" John Surtees was going to leave Ferrari mid season, which made his French film counterpart look rather out of place in the late season GP's. Also Honda were not ready at the beginning of the season with their new car so the film producers had to find some way of bringing in a Japanese team, hence the fictional Yamura car and no doubt some money went Bruce McLaren's way in having his cars painted up to look like the film cars, that is when they were running.
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Post by René on Oct 20, 2017 21:01:02 GMT
The absurdity of these current F1 regulations no known boundary do they. You are absolutely right. To give a driver who has not driven one meter a 30 place grid penalty is absurd and the people who came up with these rules are even more absurd. And the sad thing is that noone likes these rules but nothing changes. And if they do plan a change it takes ages, as if they are changing the constitution of a country! Many people in F1 take themselves way too serious. Just change the bloody rule! I only hope Ross Brawn doesn't get caught up in this web of bureaucracy. |
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Post by charleselan on Oct 21, 2017 10:46:43 GMT
While viewing the UK C4 live transmission last evening of FP2 the matter was discussed at some length. Apparently, as we all know, it is the car that gets the penalties and young Brendon has inherited his through the car being initially Kyvatt's and then Gasley. Kyvatt is now driving Sainz car so does not get any penalties as that car is fine.
Now the point of discussion moved onto the fact that this has brought about a potential loop hole in the regs that could allow either, or both,
Ferrari and Mercedes Benz drivers to swap cars with their team mates should their own car become subject to any penalties at a critical stage in the championship. How is that for absurdity.
These rules will never be changes as long as that posturing clown Todt is in charge of the FIA, and Liberty's agenda is "show" orientated.
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Post by Carl on Oct 21, 2017 20:28:16 GMT
My good friend Charles,
I agree completely that the grid penalty system is entirely idiotic. But as you know, drivers swapping cars has at times been by team order, which have been obstinately ignored on occasion by the driver so ordered, or entirely voluntary, as when Peter Collins gave away his car and championship chances by surrendering his Ferrari to teammate, Juan Fangio. However it's done, it's not racing.
Jean Todt is comfortably embedded in the bureaucratic swamp. To be more forthright, he should wear a bulbous and incandescent fake red nose at every race event. It's unclear to me at this early stage what Liberty is all about. Profit, yes, by way of improving the spectator experience, yes. But one possibility is that the sport has been doomed ever since Bernie opened the door wide to corporate control.
Your neighbor may have the right idea with cows more sensible than Jean or Bernie.
Kind regards and may the best Australian win on Sunday, Carl
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