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Post by René on Apr 23, 2019 15:34:40 GMT
I might JC, those cars are brutal. But first I have to finish the 126 CK project which is shaping up quite well. Here's a scoop, a first impression of the car. I have attached it because I don't want to upload it to my Slotforum gallery yet. Still in development but starting to look good. That is absolutely excellent René and a real scratch build by the look of things. Can't wait until we see the finished article not only will it be amazing but it will be quite unique.
A 100% scratch build for sure. Chassis and motor are Policar but the bodywork with engine- and rear suspension detail is completely hand build using polystyrene and based on blueprints of the car (including yours) for correct proportions. Driver figure and windscreen are by SRC.
The model will be unique indeed, not only because I have made it by hand but also because none of the known manufacturers have made this model (which is amazing really)! I hope to have it finalized before the summer.
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Post by chrisb on Apr 24, 2019 21:03:58 GMT
whilst I never saw a F5000 race in its glory in recent years Oulton Park ran a race or two in the Gold Cup and the noise was just heaven, great cars and man could we do with them now
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Post by charleselan on Apr 25, 2019 11:45:39 GMT
whilst I never saw a F5000 race in its glory in recent years Oulton Park ran a race or two in the Gold Cup and the noise was just heaven, great cars and man could we do with them now Funny you should say that Chris but I only saw a few myself, the only one I can really remember was seeing Teddy Pilette win at Thruxton one sunny day in the VDS Lola T400. Soon afterwards F5000 was replaced by Aurora F1 in the UK. |
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Post by Carl on Apr 25, 2019 16:16:47 GMT
whilst I never saw a F5000 race in its glory in recent years Oulton Park ran a race or two in the Gold Cup and the noise was just heaven, great cars and man could we do with them now Funny you should say that Chris but I only saw a few myself, the only one I can really remember was seeing Teddy Pilette win at Thruxton one sunny day in the VDS Lola T400. Soon afterwards F5000 was replaced by Aurora F1 in the UK. F5000 was one of the most fantastic series I've ever seen, during its heyday very close to Formula One and Can-Am. It was the desire to resurrect the Can-Am that cannibalized all the best chassis and ended it. I enjoyed the new 5 litre sports racers but it was nonetheless a shame that one great series had to end to rejuvenate another. |
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Post by charleselan on Apr 25, 2019 17:37:27 GMT
Funny you should say that Chris but I only saw a few myself, the only one I can really remember was seeing Teddy Pilette win at Thruxton one sunny day in the VDS Lola T400. Soon afterwards F5000 was replaced by Aurora F1 in the UK. F5000 was one of the most fantastic series I've ever seen, during its heyday very close to Formula One and Can-Am. It was the desire to resurrect the Can-Am that cannibalized all the best chassis and ended it. I enjoyed the new 5 litre sports racers but it was nonetheless a shame that one great series had to end to rejuvenate another. Carl, My big regret is the fact that I did not get to see F5000 in the Uk in the late 1960's when it was at its best, let alone seeing it in the USA where it was even better. F5000 really was a great series that truly rivalled F1 and the sound of those tuned big five litre stock block V8's was pure music. Even to this day I find a push rod V8 to be one of the greatest engine notes, the screaming high raving V8 of more recent times leaves me completely cold. The sound of Nascar V8's of days gone by were also something to hear especially when they were real saloon/sedan bodied vehicles. John Charles |
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Post by chrisb on Apr 26, 2019 4:43:18 GMT
i did see several F1 Aurora races, mainly at Brands and have vague memories of the Chevron F1 car as raced by Tiff - that was another 'what if' moment - the racing was pretty good but such a small grid, bur for me I enjoyed it,
but i am sad that i didn't see a pukka F5000 race -
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Post by charleselan on Apr 26, 2019 15:52:20 GMT
Funny you should say that Chris but I only saw a few myself, the only one I can really remember was seeing Teddy Pilette win at Thruxton one sunny day in the VDS Lola T400. Soon afterwards F5000 was replaced by Aurora F1 in the UK. F5000 was one of the most fantastic series I've ever seen, during its heyday very close to Formula One and Can-Am. It was the desire to resurrect the Can-Am that cannibalized all the best chassis and ended it. I enjoyed the new 5 litre sports racers but it was nonetheless a shame that one great series had to end to rejuvenate another. So true Carl. Someone really got that whole concept radically wrong. I do not think that anyone really took to the idea of slapping a sport car type body on a F5000 car even if some very high profile drivers actually appeared in that series over the years. I have a feeling that if someone with real clout got behind the idea something like F5000 would be a success today. They could use stock block V8 engines and have various chassis manufacturers with rules that were very strict on aero and electronics (a bit like Stefan Johannson's F1 idea). Just think of all those guys wasting their talent in Formula E driving real hairy racing cars  . |
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Post by Carl on Apr 26, 2019 22:30:54 GMT
F5000 was one of the most fantastic series I've ever seen, during its heyday very close to Formula One and Can-Am. It was the desire to resurrect the Can-Am that cannibalized all the best chassis and ended it. I enjoyed the new 5 litre sports racers but it was nonetheless a shame that one great series had to end to rejuvenate another. So true Carl. Someone really got that whole concept radically wrong. I do not think that anyone really took to the idea of slapping a sport car type body on a F5000 car even if some very high profile drivers actually appeared in that series over the years. I have a feeling that if someone with real clout got behind the idea something like F5000 would be a success today. They could use stock block V8 engines and have various chassis manufacturers with rules that were very strict on aero and electronics (a bit like Stefan Johannson's F1 idea). Just think of all those guys wasting their talent in Formula E driving real hairy racing cars . John Charles, Well said on all points. There were several great drivers who raced in the new Can-Am, as you said, which greatly enhanced the spectacle, but despite a superb effort the revival was not as great as the original Can-Am and in the end, F5000 was gone for good. The original series derived from Sports Car Club of America's Formula A category, which had the same basic specifications. I remember that most in amateur racing were not as fast as well-driven Formula B cars because of the expense. I easily recall Keke Rosberg, Jackie Ickx and Patrick Tambay. A brief search adds George Follmer, Alan Jones, Peter Gethin, Bobby Rahal and John Morton, former Shelby team driver and multiple SCCA national champion, who very nicely explained to me the essential differences a driver notices driving the full body conversion at Sandy's Coffee Shop one morning in Riverside. There were several interesting new designs, most memorably the Newman-Haas Spyder NF-11 with a Ferrari inspired Roman nose and the Prophet driven by George Follmer and Bobby Rahal. A revival of F5000 with various chassis and excellent drivers would be damn fast at 1/10th the cost of F1! Cheers, Carl Rosberg at Watkins Glen in 1979  Rahal in the Prophet  |
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Post by charleselan on Apr 27, 2019 18:01:13 GMT
Those were some pretty good looking race cars Carl, I always liked the Newman Hass Budweiser machine. The real oddity was the Schkee DB1 I think which was very different.  |
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Post by Carl on May 11, 2019 0:37:21 GMT
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Post by chrisb on May 11, 2019 5:51:00 GMT
go Jack Harvey
i watched Jack go through the ranks a few years ago and rated him very highly and saw a good F1 prospect, but for some reason it just never happened - so great to see him doing well over the pond, this is another circuit in the USA we are deprived of in the UK viewing now, even no MotoGP these days, all a bit of a shame,
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Post by René on May 11, 2019 18:16:06 GMT
This will probably be a better race than the Spanish Grand Prix.  |
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Post by Carl on May 12, 2019 2:57:03 GMT
This will probably be a better race than the Spanish Grand Prix. Rene, It could turn out to be. The race on the road course at Indianapolis Motor Speedway was fairly ordinary until a weather front brought more challenging conditions. Simon Pagenaud moved brilliantly from fifth to first over eleven wet laps, taking the lead from Scott Dixon on the penultimate when Dixon went wide entering an infield turn.
It's a very good road course, basically the one designed for Formula One with a few smart modifications.
Chris, your man Jack Harvey was third after a strong drive all race distance. He was fast in recent years in Indy Lights and is now trimmed down and with a good team, Meyer Shank Racing, new to IndyCar.
There were nine American drivers on the grid for this event, three British (I include Ed Jones, born in Dubai to British parents), three Brazilian, two French, two Swedish, one Australian, one New Zealander, one Canadian, one Japanese and one Mexican with an Irish name. None of the ten lords a-leaping leaped fast enough to qualify.
Cheers, Carl
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Post by chrisb on May 12, 2019 6:35:03 GMT
i like that, one of the concerns i had was in recent years the lack of American drivers in Indycar but this is really positive
sad that i can't watch it
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Post by René on May 12, 2019 10:20:52 GMT
This will probably be a better race than the Spanish Grand Prix. Rene, It could turn out to be. The race on the road course at Indianapolis Motor Speedway was fairly ordinary until a weather front brought more challenging conditions. Simon Pagenaud moved brilliantly from fifth to first over eleven wet laps, taking the lead from Scott Dixon on the penultimate when Dixon went wide entering an infield turn.
It's a very good road course, basically the one designed for Formula One with a few smart modifications. Chris, your man Jack Harvey was third after a strong drive all race distance. He was fast in recent years in Indy Lights and is now trimmed down and with a good team, Meyer Shank Racing, new to IndyCar.
There were nine American drivers on the grid for this event, three British (I include Ed Jones, born in Dubai to British parents), three Brazilian, two French, two Swedish, one Australian, one New Zealander, one Canadian, one Japanese and one Mexican with an Irish name. None of the ten lords a-leaping leaped fast enough to qualify.
Cheers, Carl
I watched the race last night Carl and it was good. Certainly when the rain came. I was happy for Simon who hadn't won for too long but he showed how good a driver he is when the conditions became tricky. The Indianapolis track is a good road course, I agree. Only a shame to have so many empty grandstands as background. |
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