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Post by René on Nov 22, 2018 19:42:22 GMT
Last race of the Grand Prix season before the racing divas go into hibernation. One more chance to end the season on a high. For Bottas to win a race in 2018, for Ricciardo to leave RB with a good feeling, for Vettel to wash away the bitter feeling of a season lost and for Alonso to shine one more time in F1. Enough to look forward to, even if the track is a joke. And let's not forget; bye bye Fernando, Stoff, Marcus and Sergey.
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Post by Carl on Nov 23, 2018 1:53:27 GMT
I hope Daniel Ricciardo vents all his frustrations at Red Bull with an aggressive victory that should give notice to everyone that Renault better have its act together by the Ides of March in Melbourne, or beware...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 10:47:41 GMT
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Post by charleselan on Nov 24, 2018 12:20:30 GMT
I have mentioned it many times before Jim, that Brendon has had a rough time and been treated appallingly by the idiots that run all aspects of the fizzy drink concern. It makes me sick to also read the cr*p written by keyboard jerks who say he isn't fast enough for F1, great shame most of them do not spend more time with their Exercise Books and leave the comments to grown men. Personally I think he will be gone, and that is great shame as he does have real talent and has a decent character. Maybe he will stop off at Ferrari next year as their test and development driver before heading over to Indycar for 2020.
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Post by Carl on Nov 24, 2018 23:08:51 GMT
Although the playing field at Ferrari World is apparently protected by a massive halo device, anyplace with a 150 mph roller coaster (importantly, one that doesn't turn riders upside down) has my hearty approval. Wow!
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Post by René on Nov 25, 2018 11:24:22 GMT
Although the playing field at Ferrari World is apparently protected by a massive halo device, anyplace with a 150 mph roller coaster (importantly, one that doesn't turn riders upside down) has my hearty approval. Wow! Insane Carl, insane! I wonder, was that recorded before this race? Still hurts when I think back of that one... bye bye Fernando.
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Post by René on Nov 25, 2018 17:36:38 GMT
That was not a bad race and I think it is fair to say that the three best drivers of 2018 finished 1-2-3 today. Lewis was very good on his tyres and drove a perfect race. Bottas was disappointing again, they should replace him with Ocon IMHO. A shame for Kimi to end his Ferrari career like this but at least he won in the US. Leclerc was very good again. He will be fantastic in the Ferrari I have no doubt. Scary moment for the Hulk, lucky he didn't turn green and grow out of his suit! That would have been cramped!
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Post by Carl on Nov 26, 2018 2:07:38 GMT
Although the playing field at Ferrari World is apparently protected by a massive halo device, anyplace with a 150 mph roller coaster (importantly, one that doesn't turn riders upside down) has my hearty approval. Wow! Insane Carl, insane! Still hurts when I think back of that one... bye bye Fernando. Rene, That was 2010 and ended better for Ferrari than the race. I notice Felipe Massa was immediately more brave than his "faster than you" teammate.
It's hard to imagine a rollercoaster twice as fast as any other, a good reason to visit Abu Dhabi.
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Post by robmarsh on Nov 26, 2018 7:58:30 GMT
A fair race and result though why they end the season with this venue I have no idea. After the adrenaline producing and flowing Brazilian circuit I find this one very boring and stop start. This race should be in the beginning of the season when we are still so excited to have F1 back that we don't notice the grotty tracks.
On that note I wonder how much China paid to have the 1000th Grand Prix? I don't think a country like China should be given that honour. The 500th was at Adelaide at a circuit that was far more exciting and in a country that has a far better human rights record. As Keke Rosberg said in 1984, we are all whores in F1.
An exciting season has come to an end. I am looking forward to March when it all starts again in Melbourne. I think next year will be more exciting than this year with some extremely talented youngsters poised to make a big impact. I put Max in that category even though he has had 8 more Grand Prix than Jim Clark and by the end of 2019 would have had more Grand Prix than Jackie Stewart.
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Post by Carl on Nov 26, 2018 8:45:15 GMT
The race at the front was boring. I really wish other top-level drivers have the best car in coming years. I'd like to see Hamilton work harder for his wins.
Stoffel Vandoorne was brilliant at one point against Grosjean and Ocon, seeming to lose position in an elaborate back and forth but coming out ahead with smart racecraft. Too bad he hadn't done similar at other times earlier in the season and too bad also that his car was junk all year.
Nico Hulkenberg's rollovers were very slow and he wasn't hurt. But when he was upside down with an engine fire, he couldn't get out because of the "protective" halo device! Nico was justifiably worried over the radio until track marshals arrived.
I wonder what Max Verstappen said that merited a lecture from an adult.
The massive yacht docked near Turns 13 and 14 at one point had two older men and eight younger women all on a large upper level lounge deck, possibly a Girl Scout Troop and its leaders. Even in the conservative Emirates, the rich have carte blanche to contravene accepted norms.
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Post by René on Nov 26, 2018 11:03:02 GMT
What would Max Verstappen have thought when oil from the Honda PU was all over him while his Renault powered Red Bull brought him another podium finish? The same Renault engine he has been referring to as 'the product' lately.
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Post by charleselan on Nov 26, 2018 12:24:35 GMT
Can't help but be negative about this place; one which a friend refers to as a "p*ss hole in the sand". It is a god awful venue that displays all that is wrong with this world, and F1 in particular where ostentatious displays of wealth, and licking up to foul regimes holds sway. That Rob, is why it is the last race on the seasons calendar, just as you correctly mention China and the 1000th GP. Watching via the last live transmission of UK C4 it made little difference; along with some cringe worthy comments by the presentation individuals and it's overt adulation of the new WC that just goes on & on. The wrap up was nothing more than a hatchet job on Valterri Bottas in which they brought Tonto into play. The guy obviously is in a difficult place at present after a challenging and at times unlucky season, and that could clearly be seen in his eyes when interviewed. Not one mention if memory serves me correctly about the show being just a highlights package in 2019. As for the race, other than some little interchanges down the field it was hugely unsatisfactory. Keeping an eye on the timing sheet it was just pathetic seeing every close running group in stalemate with gaps of 1.3 to 1.9 throughout. Even the highly impressive Charles Leclerc got caught up behind Teflonso for lap after lap following his early tyre stop. Sainz Jnr had a most impressive run in the Renault, and one does have to wonder at the level of intelligence displayed by the fizzy drinks team in not putting him in the second RB car; unless of course they did not wish to upset Maxi Boy. I liked Pierre Gasly earlier on but his recent behaviour towards his team mate and other matters have displayed him to be a serious whinger. Sad that Kimi's last race for Ferrari was to end like it did, but at least with Bottas' problems he kept his third place in the WC, not that he probably gives a darn. Apparently Teflonso cut a corner for three laps in a row and gained a 5 sec penalty for each violation; however I cannot fathom how Bottas escaped penalty when he did exactly the same as Ocon, in fact he gained ground by his move. Nico's accident looked quite spectacular and I am not convinced by the "toilet seat" and how it seemed to hamper any escape from the car. Whiting has stated that it did not contribute to the driver being unable to get out, he would of course, and that has not been supported by any deep analysis. That guys position has long needed to be terminated. It was good to see the rapport and respect between Lewis & Sebastian after the race, but I am still left with the feeling that Mr Hamilton is all good when he is on top, but maybe he will revert when on the receiving end. Wasn't impressed with the rather narcissistic display on the podium either, poor taste by a mature man who is a 5 time WC. However it did appear to excite some of the UK C4 team . I wasn't too impressed with Max's overtake of Valterri either, as it smacked of bad touring car driving, he just barrelled in and whacked him out of the way, most others would have got a penalty for that move, but then again most aren't the new golden boy. Can't wait to see him and Charles going head to head over the coming years, got a feeling we are going to hear many expletives as his new wonder power unit goes pop. Liked René's comment above, maybe Max forgot that Gasly was running a Honda motor and not a Renault.
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Post by Carl on Nov 26, 2018 17:37:45 GMT
I no longer watch the pathetic waste of good champagne (or whatever they allow in Abu Dhabi) on the podium or any post-race interviews, but have this year started to turn my television off moments after the checkered flag. The artifice inflicted on the sport by corporate control is evident enough during the race, and intolerable afterward, as David Coulthard shows what a fool will do for money.
"But what a fool believes, he sees No wise man has the power to reason away What seems to be Is always better than nothing Than nothing at all"
Who was the last honest man in Formula One? Frank Williams? Ross Brawn?
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Post by chrisb on Nov 27, 2018 8:37:29 GMT
I was trying to stay positive for the 'last' live UK transmission but failed miserably, simply put there seems to be some rules for some and other rules for others, all a bit of a loss to me, I was very concerned about the Hulk's accident, how easily it tipped and how vulnerable he was to being stuck in a burning car, having witnessed at least two appallingly unnecessary tragedies as a result of being trapped in a burning car Charlie's words rang pretty hollow. And the marshals did not seem to react very quickly to me either, but the toilet seat was a joke, why oh why they can't use the US system disturbs me - if this is a case of ego interfering with logic I just hope that no tragedies come of it.
och, the circuit, the opulence and the hideousness of it all, this is the last race of the season because someone discovered some black stuff under our feet and that yacht was so nauseating and a reinforcement of financial power over decency, but then I realise without going into politics that the UK Government has avoided so many similar scandals by their 'convenient' loss of evidence, one rule for one...
the 'race' snoring boring, liked Ocon's battle but how can you have a decent race with such a dreadful circuit? like you Carl I stopped watching the podium and any interviews, although it was great to hear my favourite journalist Lee McKenzie ask Kimi some questions and his responses were a delight, well, he was smiling and seemed a mighty relieved man, what is that saying one wonders...
who was the last honest man/ person in F1, I'm still struggling to think who was the first?
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Post by robmarsh on Nov 27, 2018 11:51:21 GMT
I thought Ken Tyrrell may have been then I remembered the balls up around the lead ballast in the petrol tank. I don't think it would be a team owner or engineer though. I am sure one would have to look at the drivers. Kimi strikes me as the most likely candidate.
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