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Post by René on Nov 4, 2018 10:36:39 GMT
I think next year will be pretty spectacular. Seb should come back stronger after a good rest and hopefully the political infighting at Ferrari would have resolved itself. I look forward to Charles Leclerc's first season with Ferrari with a lot of interest. Yes, yes, whatever, interest schminterest, what will the qualifying score be over the 2019 season between the two Ferrari men? I seem to remember, Marsh, that you are useless at predictions. So is Charles, and Carl, and Chris, and Jamie... and by far the worst of all, Rene. Useless. Me, on the other hand? ALWAYS RIGHT. Yes. You know it the most. And so we return to the question. Vettel vs Leclerc. 21 races. New team and car for Charles. Familiar team and car for the four-time world champion. A fired up Vettel. A nervous and overwhelmed unproven sophomore semi-journeyman lightweight Leclerc. 17-4 Vettel. You read it here first. Bill, I told you to behave! Have to agree with Carl, no cushion for the first six month! But hey, welcome to the Round Table! Great to have you onboard. Be careful with your predictions though, you cannot edit your post afterwards without being noticed on this forum! 17-4 is registered so we can make fun of you when the 2019 season ends. I am a Vettel fan. Like the guy and think he's a very good driver. But Charles has something special that could make him one of my all time favourites. I just like the way he comes across and as you said, he is a very neat and precise driver. In the Alain Prost mold. But sure, being at Ferrari with all the attention and pressure and Herr Vettel in the garage next to him it won't be easy for young Charles. But he can handle it I am sure. 12-9 (Vettel-Leclerc).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 10:58:41 GMT
12-9!!!!! Leclerc IS good, then.
Very well Rene, we will see what transpires. Likely the true number will be somewhere in between - perhaps 15-6 or 14-7.
If Leclerc can out-qualify Seb Steven times he will have done well.
I look forward to being made fun of as next season progresses.
I stand by my 17-4 and reject your 12-9.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 11:00:38 GMT
Seven times, not Steven times. Duh.
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Post by René on Nov 4, 2018 11:13:01 GMT
And Danny Ric against The Hulk. Hmmm, does feel a bit like the second division after talking about Vettel and Leclerc, not?
I think Danny is better than Nico. We talked about Nico last week and my personal feeling is that he lost the momentum to reach the next level and join the super elite drivers.
Danny has been outclassed by Max and cut his losses, that's why he is at the Régie now but he will win the internal battle quite convincingly. 15-6.
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Post by René on Nov 4, 2018 11:14:23 GMT
Seven times, not Steven times. Duh. You ARE allowed to edit your posts Bill.
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Post by chrisb on Nov 4, 2018 15:12:01 GMT
well I suspect Renault will finally come good and the Hulk will win his first WDC, predictions? surely not, but as a Hulk fan and also someone who rates Danny I do think this will be a tight contest between the two, and although I was jesting to begin with the combination may just fire up Regie, who has made some fine engines in the past so may well up their game after so many years and get it together, which would be marvelous and a real fingers up to RB - qualifying I would look at 11-10 to Daniel, but points wise I would predict the Hulk outscores Daniel.
welcome Bill, good to have you here, 17-4 Seb? mm, that's worthy of a pint bet,
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Post by Carl on Nov 4, 2018 16:20:48 GMT
That sounds right to me, which is a bad omen for your prediction. That 17-4 disparity may depend on Vettel maintaining a cool head, otherwise he may end up on the far side of that divide.
Forza equilibrio, Carl
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Post by Carl on Nov 4, 2018 16:37:26 GMT
Seven times, not Steven times. Duh. You ARE allowed to edit your posts Bill. I often edit for clarity, but never alter a position unless money is at stake.
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Post by Carl on Nov 4, 2018 16:50:19 GMT
And another thing, RICCIARDO v HULKENBERG. Anyone got any feelings on how that will go? I think Ricciardo will shade it, but there won't be much between them. Clearly Renault already don't think Nico is team leader material, otherwise they wouldn't have welcomed Dan with open arms. That might fire The Hulk up. Could be game over for one of those guys if they're not trading blows race to race. Hulk has got the better of Sainz and he's a class act. If he is annihilated by Dan, it could be the end. Renault might look elsewhere. 12-9 to Ricciardo. Bill, I think you framed it just right. Like many, I want these two to be able to compete for race wins, which should reignite Hulkenberg and please Ricciardo to no end.
Cheers, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Nov 4, 2018 17:53:16 GMT
Firstly a warm welcome Bill, I look forward to more of your energetic pot stirring, that once graced the MS Forum when at its best. Contrary to your assertion that I am useless at predictions, I would say that it is 50/50, as I have only ever made two in my life. The first was an abject failure when I predicted a 1971 World Championship for Jackie Ickx in the Ferrari 312B, that was undone by the majestic JYS in his Tyrrell aided by a special Cosworth DFV. My second was a resounding success for which I have gained little credit when I actually not only predicted the winner of the 2016 WC correctly, but how the season would shape up. As you have goaded me into making predictions for 2019, I will let rip with some outrageous propositions. The 2019 World Champion will be driving a Ferrari and it will be Charles Leclerc. Charles will begin the year with some consistent podiums and then light up the season with a home win in Monaco which will also open the flood gates to many more race wins. He will disassemble Sebastian by metronomic consistency; superb race craft and blinding pace. Honda will produce a much improved power unit and both Max and Pierre will have success' with the Red Bull. However The Citron Mouthed Marko's favouritism of Verstappen will prove divisive and ruin the year for my least favourite team. Knowing that he is on far less money than the incoming Ricciardo will be the spark Hulkenburg needs and he will out qualify and race the Aussie. This will lead to a Ferrari seat in 2020 following Vettel's surprise retirement, an aftermath of Leclerc's demolition. The big surprise will be the ascendancy of Sauber Alfa Romeo thanks to many of Ferrari's former personnel doing great things there, along with a relaxed and happy Kimi leading developments, and Fred's steady hand at the head of the ship. I predict at least one podium possibly more. Young George Russell will shine in an improved but not great Williams. Five time champion Lewis Hamilton will be there or thereabouts all year but will be shocked rigid by Leclerc's pace and consistency. The changing of the guard will have begun in earnest. Well it could be 1971 all over again, or it might just be 2016 .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 18:45:52 GMT
It COULD happen, Charles! It would be a magnificent season if it did, and Leclerc would instantly become my favourite driver.
More likely a Hamilton WDC... or a Vettel.
One more prediction: Max Verstappen will not score more than three podiums. I believe he is in for a rough ride, the poor lad. And if Horner was frustrated by his Renault engine, he ain't seen nothin yet!
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Post by charleselan on Nov 4, 2018 18:59:07 GMT
Seriously Bill, F1 cannot afford to have Mercedes Benz win another championship. With no live Free to View coverage in the Uk, and most other European countries, that combination would create irreparable damage for Liberty Media.
What's needed is fresh blood winning, nothing less will do.
I actually believe the 2019 Honda power unit will be rather good, and that Newey will adapt quickest to the new aero package. RB could be strong and I am hoping Gasly can really challenge Verstappen, but with Citron Mouth Marko about I doubt he will be allowed to get too close, that is if he has the ability to do so.
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Post by Carl on Nov 4, 2018 19:56:07 GMT
John Charles, Don't overlook a very useful tool at your disposal. As a longtime avid fan of motorsport, you are allowed to use the former points system of discarding a low result and doing so makes your record a perfect 100%...
A bill for my accounting is forthcoming...
Cheers, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Nov 4, 2018 20:58:50 GMT
John Charles, Don't overlook a very useful tool at your disposal. As a longtime avid fan of motorsport, you are allowed to use the former points system of discarding a low result and doing so makes your record a perfect 100%... A bill for my accounting is forthcoming... Cheers, Carl Carl, I was seriously chastened by the fact that my prediction of Master Ickx becoming World Champion in 1971 was badly incorrect. However I take heart in the fact that your astute knowledge of previous points scoring could come into play and nullify this rather rash assumption, forgetting the incredible skills of one John Young Stewart. I will keep an eye open for the bill . Cheers John Charles
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Post by Carl on Nov 5, 2018 0:50:23 GMT
John Charles, When he first joined Ferrari, I was certain Jacky Ickx would soon be World Champion, whether in 1969 with Brabham or the early years of his second stint with Ferrari, including 1971. Unfortunately, in both of those years Stewart was unbeatable. After 1972, Ickx seemed to lose the edge he'd had earlier in Formula One while his success in sports cars blossomed. Always unfathomable, fatalistic about danger, a free spirited Belgian waffle, deep and shallow at the same time, and a less than ideal seatmate for a long distance flight.
Cheers, Carl
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