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Post by René on Sept 1, 2018 14:10:12 GMT
Whooaaah! Front row lockout! FORZA FERRARI
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Post by charleselan on Sept 1, 2018 14:13:42 GMT
Yes! Yes! Yes! I know what I am doing..............
Brilliant.
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 1, 2018 16:42:19 GMT
Love Monza love Ferrari looking forward to tomorrow.
These cars are the fastest but also the heaviest F1 cars of all time. An average speed of 162 mph around Monza with the chicanes is fantastic. However, impact = speed x weight so when a car goes out of control like the Sauber, the crash is going to be huge, especially on the old school tracks. That is scary enough for me now, the buzz from the danger is returning.
BTW I picked up during commentary in one of the free practice sessions that Moto GP were the reason why there is so much tarmac on the run off areas. Is that true?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:33:09 GMT
Speed x mass = momentum, but I know what you mean Rob.
The kinetic energy, which is directly proportional to mass x (speed x speed). Basically, speed squared means it hurts more, much more! actually
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:37:44 GMT
Little theatre with the RB boys, who have a sense of humour others in F1 don't show.
Handling Italian, cheeses or villages. (Ricciardo has the obvious "family" edge, but Max is good too)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:43:07 GMT
Just thinking that at RB they must have someone in the PR department expressly to come up with gags like that, for the location they are in. Now, that's a proper job...
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Post by charleselan on Sept 1, 2018 21:34:51 GMT
Jus a few thoughts or ramblings, what ever your choice.
Firstly I am beginning to like young Max more and more, his comments about the "Toilet Seat" are refreshing from one so young. Reasoned and astute, plus he is of an age group one would think would be all for it, but no he isn't a fan.
Teflonso's move on Kevin; not the sort of thing you would expect from one of the most experienced drivers out there, that is unless it was deliberate. Personally I find it very hard to understand how this guy is held in such high esteem. Apparently he laughed in Kevin's face when he went to talk to him about it, shame James Hunt isn't still racing as he would have punched him in the face.
The much maligned Romain Grosjean is now starting to string some good performances together which is good to see as I think he is basically too good to be discarded. The sport mind coach is doing a good job and Romain is happy about things.
A good little piece on S*Y F1 before proceedings today with young George Russell, the young man is not only fast but comes across as a very nice lad; that is how I like my British sports stars to be.
Very touching to see Mintu shedding a tear after Kimi's fantastic pole drive, and Arrivebiene giving her a big hug, Ferrari looks like a happy family, a shame Sebastian couldn't have been a little less self possessed. Unfortunately it just illustrated that the media's chosen big three are not mature enough to fulfil that role.
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Post by Carl on Sept 1, 2018 23:00:03 GMT
Vettel: "YES!"
Ferrari: "P2! P2!"
Vettel: "We talk after....." After talking, Ferrari may appeal to the stewards to add to Raikkonen's pole time any benefit received from Vettel's slipstream because Kimi had not politely asked to use it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 3:51:47 GMT
Firstly I am beginning to like young Max more and more, his comments about the "Toilet Seat" are refreshing from one so young. Reasoned and astute, plus he is of an age group one would think would be all for it, but no he isn't a fan. Teflonso's move on Kevin; not the sort of thing you would expect from one of the most experienced drivers out there, that is unless it was deliberate. Personally I find it very hard to understand how this guy is held in such high esteem. Apparently he laughed in Kevin's face when he went to talk to him about it, shame James Hunt isn't still racing as he would have punched him in the face. Max is growing up, he is a kid really, and may come up good indeed, something like "old school".
Nando unfortunately for him won't be missed and the history books won't be kind, whatever Roebuck and co. might write. I saw that move on Magnussen live and thought it was totally uncalled for. He said afterwards he (Alonso) "was preparing his lap". At the first chicane, with a full lap to go. What a knob.
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Post by chrisb on Sept 2, 2018 7:51:39 GMT
I didn't get to watch the qualifying nor the accident, as sorry highlights are all well and good but you miss the buzz of 'what is going to happen' type thing, good on Kimi, still got it, will he still be around next year? will he be allowed to race this afternoon? I get so sad - dating back to the 'fixed' results days of Michael, Alonso, and Jones - where is it was agreed beforehand who would win, as opposed to letting the best person win, when winners become spoiled by their egos and throw the dummies out if they don't get their way, despite the tension it creates I always liked the idea of two number ones, and being able to compete fairly with each other, sadly doesn't seem to happen, historically or in today's farcical events. Mind you, best-laid plans aka 1967 US Gp and the ensuing apology when a plan does go awry sort of sums it up
I dislike DRS, always have and probably always will, I thought KERS was brilliant and the way forward, it could have been brilliant for road vehicles and it just made sense, also whilst not engineeringly orientated I just thought this has endless potential whilst a switch that opens and closes a rear wing doesn't, in fact, quite the opposite
What I really appreciate is not reading Marcus's obituary today,
Nigel Roebuck has written an article on Alonso in Autosport, it alludes to comparing Nando with Gilles, as both never gave up, whilst Nigel is not the most popular of writers here I do still occasionally like him, except here, I do think the only thing I did agree with the article was - despite two WDC's Alonso's was ultimately an unfulfilled career-
I like Magnussen and he seems to have found his niche team, I would love for nothing better to see the Haas win a race, and as for Nando laughing at him, that is not class and I know Nando has come up the hard way but a slap was definitely the best option -
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 8:51:00 GMT
I saw the movie 'Ferrari - race to immortality' last week, a fascinating documentary about Ferrari's early GP days, it really brought home that there were very few accidents that drivers walked away from in the 1950's. It's a beautiful and fascinating documentary, isn't it? Completely different times with also a different attitude to safety. I have thought about that a lot and maybe with the atrocities of WWII still fresh in the mind, peoples attitude towards risk and death was just different back then. The longer we all lived in peace, the more risk avoiding our society has become. I agree these modern cars are a marvel of engineering and we can only applaud the fact Marcus walked away from this one, like Fernando did in Melbourne a few years back or indeed Charles did in Spa. And this raises the ever returning question; how safe should racing be? I know as a kid I was fascinated by the danger aspect of the sport. You didn't want to see serious injuries but the fact they were acting on the edge made it fascinating, it just did. But the times have changed and the sport has changed which is a good thing because if it stood still it would die. Cars are much faster now so safety measures also need to develop at the same rate. What happened to Robert Wickens at Pocono is really not acceptable anymore. There were lots of interesting contrasts with modern times in the documentary. The attitude to driver safety was certainly starkly different - I think legal accountability is the big change, the FIA, race organisers, and Teams all have a much clearer legal obligation to assess the risks and take all reasonable steps to mitigate them. The drivers in the 50's were probably no more brave than drivers today, but the risks they were subject to were very much different. One other thing that stood out was that the 50's drivers were all pay drivers, rich lads who bought their cars and often the team around them.
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Post by charleselan on Sept 2, 2018 10:47:13 GMT
Firstly I am beginning to like young Max more and more, his comments about the "Toilet Seat" are refreshing from one so young. Reasoned and astute, plus he is of an age group one would think would be all for it, but no he isn't a fan. Teflonso's move on Kevin; not the sort of thing you would expect from one of the most experienced drivers out there, that is unless it was deliberate. Personally I find it very hard to understand how this guy is held in such high esteem. Apparently he laughed in Kevin's face when he went to talk to him about it, shame James Hunt isn't still racing as he would have punched him in the face. Max is growing up, he is a kid really, and may come up good indeed, something like "old school".
Nando unfortunately for him won't be missed and the history books won't be kind, whatever Roebuck and co. might write. I saw that move on Magnussen live and thought it was totally uncalled for. He said afterwards he (Alonso) "was preparing his lap". At the first chicane, with a full lap to go. What a knob.
Yes on both counts Lucio. I find myself warming towards young Max more and more. His driving of late has been much more measured, realising he cannot compete with MB & Ferrari with what he has underneath him. For a lad who by his own admission hated school he speaks well and with education, and as you say he is still a kid. I like the term "old school" and that is indeed a compliment. How Alonso did not get a penalty for that move is hard to understand, until one sees that certain individuals seem to get away with sanctions because of who they are. I for one will not miss the guy; and that move and his comments afterwards have now fully convinced me of his implications in those disgusting actions of a few years ago, quite a nasty piece of work.
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Post by charleselan on Sept 2, 2018 11:02:42 GMT
I like Magnussen and he seems to have found his niche team, I would love for nothing better to see the Haas win a race, and as for Nando laughing at him, that is not class and I know Nando has come up the hard way but a slap was definitely the best option - Chris, I seem to recall on many occasions over the past two years Teflonso throwing the towel in, so where does Roebuck get to draw the analogy with Gilles there. Admittedly the car is rubbish but Gilles would never have given up, just look at his performances in the Ferrari T5 for comparison. Teflonso is the "Master of his own Destiny" and thereby hangs the summary of his career. Roebuck's continual lauding of Teflonso is an embarrassment, and not worthy of a scribe that is claimed to be one of the premiere motor sport journalists. Mark Hughes explains that when he talks about Teflonso, he refers to his ability on track and not of "other matters", however in my eyes they are mutually exclusive, and that is why I have such a high regard for Jim Clark and Ronnie Peterson et al. On another front, I too like Kevin Magnussen. He may not be the ultimate fastest but he is a hard and strong racer fully deserving his position. I think McLaren dropped the ball when they tossed him aside after one year, they should have kept him and JB, Teflonso was a waste of money and a huge negative for the team, funded I believe by Honda themselves. Boy the latter must have been very upset by Teflonso's later very scathing and public comments. John
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 13:16:24 GMT
Why safety car? Why?? Let them race! Clear the Roggia and let them race! No need for SC!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 15:29:29 GMT
Lewis is da man. I say to Ferrari, ditch Vettel and take Max. Max will take the fight to Hamilton. Ricciardo would too, but they didn't want him, so it has to be Max. Enough with this Leclerc nonsense, they need to look at their designated number one. Where is a Niki Lauda when they need him? They won't find him in Vettel. Someone should remind him - remember Singapore last year? Anybody? - that races can only be lost at the first or second curve, but they are all won at the end, by definition. Apparently Vettel doesn't know that yet.
Lewis top dog.
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