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Post by charleselan on Jan 2, 2018 19:49:03 GMT
This film caught my eye earlier today when on YouTube. I had not seen this before in all my previous searches and it is very good indeed, one of the American series "Glory Days" which have done some superb Can Am race footage.
One of the things that attracted me to the film was the early showing of the Ferrari 312P which in "spyder" form is to me more attractive than the later version in coupe form.
The film really captures the speed of these cars, which belies the fact that it came from right back in 1969. It also illustrates, as does the film I attached in Grand prix about the 1970 British GP, that you don't need ridiculous aero aids to be spectacular.
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Post by chrisb on Jan 2, 2018 21:52:06 GMT
excellent, thank you John
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Post by Carl on Jan 2, 2018 22:19:08 GMT
Another great film, John Charles! I used to watch "Speedworld" on ESPN almost religiously. Another great program with Dave Despain as host was called "Thursday Night Thunder" (later "Saturday Night Thunder") and focused on USAC Sprint Cars and their smaller brethren on dirt ovals.
A nice cinematic touch is at 9:12 when James Garner and Jo Bonnier are seen craning their necks in unison...followed by a large owl doing the same.
Sebring was always an extremely rough course, for which Porsche wasn't ready. David Hobbs' strategy for victory proved prescient as the wizened old tortoise wins the race.
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Post by Jamie on Jan 3, 2018 8:39:17 GMT
Wonderful footage John, this period really was a golden era of Sportscar racing.
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Post by René on Jan 3, 2018 11:06:16 GMT
Again a great race report of the golden years of sportscar racing. So wonderful to see the 'Fly Classic Collection' in live action!  And what I said about the Brand Hatch F1 race also applies here. The races were way more unpredictable because of reliability issues. It's a difficult one this, modern race cars are technilogical wonders and race tracks smooth and safe but all this progress has also sanitized the sport to a degree (can you say that in English..?). |
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Post by Jamie on Jan 3, 2018 11:45:33 GMT
(can you say that in English..?). You can indeed and I completely agree. That's not to say that good reliability is necessarily a bad thing but it does remove one of the variables that previous eras had. |
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Post by charleselan on Jan 3, 2018 11:54:16 GMT
Again a great race report of the golden years of sportscar racing. So wonderful to see the 'Fly Classic Collection' in live action! And what I said about the Brand Hatch F1 race also applies here. The races were way more unpredictable because of reliability issues. It's a difficult one this, modern race cars are technilogical wonders and race tracks smooth and safe but all this progress has also sanitized the sport to a degree (can you say that in English..?). Too right you can, perfect English expression. Also spot on with the reliability issue, cars or bikes retiring or slowing due to technical issues were part of the game and did as you mention allow some unpredictability to every meeting. What we forget is the fact that these things being run today are in a way, how can I put it, falsely run, as they are no longer mechanical pieces of equipment. The computer and electronics do things which are to my way of thinking devoid of humanity. Much of the interference that computers and electronics employ on these cars is not available on road cars, to any great extent, and when it is what is the first and major problem encountered on a road car having a problem? Electronics are the scourge of modern car ownership, vastly complicated and as such no ordinary, or main dealership, garage can deal with it other than replace it ad hoc at huge expense to the owner. |
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Post by charleselan on Jan 3, 2018 13:44:54 GMT
Again a great race report of the golden years of sportscar racing. So wonderful to see the 'Fly Classic Collection' in live action! I had a feeling that you might bring that up René  . The Porsche 908/2 Spyder is one of the very best Fly models in my opinion, it is the third Fly model I ever bought and the one I cherish the most as I adore that car. I have the "Seppi" & Brian Redman version from the Nurburgring 1000kms, just a fabulous little thing. It is a great shame that Fly didn't produce a model of the Ferrari 312P as that would have made a wonderful pairing. |
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Post by Carl on Jan 3, 2018 16:58:22 GMT
John Charles,
Your assessment of the real effects of electronics in today's cars is perfect.
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Post by René on Jan 4, 2018 0:32:19 GMT
Again a great race report of the golden years of sportscar racing. So wonderful to see the 'Fly Classic Collection' in live action! I had a feeling that you might bring that up René . The Porsche 908/2 Spyder is one of the very best Fly models in my opinion, it is the third Fly model I ever bought and the one I cherish the most as I adore that car. I have the "Seppi" & Brian Redman version from the Nurburgring 1000kms, just a fabulous little thing. It is a great shame that Fly didn't produce a model of the Ferrari 312P as that would have made a wonderful pairing. Yes, the 908/2 is definitely one of their best. I think I have four or five different liveries now and every time I see another one I think 'hmmm, nice'. The 312P was done by Racer. Fantastic detail but slightly over scale so not a good pairing with the Porsche. I think it was Proto Slot that did a good resin shell ones that fits a Fly chassis. Unfortunately I don't have that one. Yes, it's time someone did a descent 312P! |
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