Well done Ferrari, two very important wins this weekend, brings back memories when Ferrari could do this on a more regular basis and when at Monza Ferrari always produced something special for Monza,
I thought Charles drove so intelligently, which is always one of my favourite characteristics - really pleased for you guys.
As for McLaren - clearly got a car that works very well and what isn't working well is whether or not they end up as champions in either category, decision time beckons.
Personally I don't like team orders, I can understand them I just think if you are that good you will beat your team mate anyway. Taking up Rob's points:
no team orders no Mike Hawthorn F1 champion, likewise John Surtees to mention just two:
With regards to cobblestones - the most I seem to remember on a circuit was Bremgarten a truly scary race place. One thing I do know is that when wet they are mighty slippery and require almighty concentration.
The 1954 Merc did lead to Connaught and Vanwall also producing their streamliners later on - although I am aware Stuart Lewis-Evans practised the Vanwall streamliner at Rheims in 1957 and Connaught brought theirs out in 1955 I don't think either raced with any success. The Vanwall was at the Donington museum for years and I do have some pictures somewhere of it.
Chris, WRT streamliners, both Maserati (1955 Monza) and Ferrari (1956 French GP) brought out streamliners. They were not successful and were not seen again.
Chris you said "no team orders no Mike Hawthorn F1 champion, likewise John Surtees to mention just two:" . Thank you.
I also forgot that in the 50's drivers were allowed to change cars during the races which happened on more than one occasion and were obviously under team orders. It normally allowed individual race wins but Fangio won his 1956 championship when Peter Collins willingly gave up his car at Monza sso Fangio could continue. Had Collins not given up his car, he, Collins, would have won the 1956 WDC.
I might just watch the race again now that I will be in a more relaxed state of mind knowing the result.
There has been a lot of bs on other forums regarding Norris vs Piastri and how Piastri is the better driver etc and is only in his second season etc etc.
What people are forgetting is that though Lando may be in sixth season the Mclaren has really only been a potential winner in the last two seasons, something Piastri had little to do with so Norris deserves his senior status.
Also Oscar has now driven for 39 GPs, more than half of the 75 GPs that Jim Clark took part in. By the same stage in his career Clark had won 11 or 12. Piastri has not even come third that number of times.
I might just watch the race again now that I will be in a more relaxed state of mind knowing the result.
There has been a lot of bs on other forums regarding Norris vs Piastri and how Piastri is the better driver etc and is only in his second season etc etc.
What people are forgetting is that though Lando may be in sixth season the Mclaren has really only been a potential winner in the last two seasons, something Piastri had little to do with so Norris deserves his senior status.
Also Oscar has now driven for 39 GPs, more than half of the 75 GPs that Jim Clark took part in. By the same stage in his career Clark had won 11 or 12. Piastri has not even come third that number of times.
Ha, ha, you will certainly not start the Piastri fan club!
But you are certainly right that Lando has only recently had a competitive car and Oscar has only just started and very quickly had a good car at his disposal. Charles also had to make do with an uncompetitive car for a few seasons, actually lost seasons in which Max won one after the other. It is also how the dice roll.
Personally I think that Oscar is very good and it is not impossible that he will surpass Lando. But that also depends on McLaren how they deal with it.
I agree Rene but Lando is very good and doesn't deserve all the flack he is getting, especially from people who couldn't even get with in a million miles of what he does and have never been anywhere remotely close to the position he is in.
Max Verstappen had this to about Lando's title calibre. "Lando is very, very fast that's the most important thing. It will all get better with experience. I've been fighting for championships for longer so I am a bit more experienced. At the end of the day if the team is working well, the car is working well and you're driving well it all just comes to you, I have never doubted that about Lando." (Courtesy of MotorSport magazine).
So Adrian Newey has joined Aston Martin, on a very large salary and bonus scheme apparently, Matt Bishop has done an excellent piece on MotorSports web page about this and it makes for interesting reading. Especially as to when he will be launching 'his' car, and how old the current drivers will be, also who was very much involved in the whole discussion and where Martin Whitmarsh goes from here, interesting.
I wouldn't mind placing a small wager that Adrian will also be designing a road car, which will be beyond mere mortals bank balances it really will be an awesome piece of kit.
next phase in Aston Martin's bid for championship glory will be to employ Verstappen. Though I think one of the two McLaren boys might be available soon.
the thought of the ego clash between the Father's of Messer's Stroll and Verstappen would or could be beyond the abilities of F1 to cope with.
As Alonso will be 48 when the all - Newey car will be ready I can't see him there.
But Netflix would love it. Make Dallas and all the other feuding mini-series over time pale into insignificance. Reality TV at it's best and most vile. Heck, they may even run it live instead of Ted's after race monologue.
