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Post by René on Sept 10, 2020 16:36:25 GMT
Race #3 of the so-called triple header, race #2 in Italy, F1 race #1 at Mugello and race #1000 for the Scuderia Ferrari! The Ferraris will race in a classic red livery for this occasion. It won’t make them any faster but at least they will look better!  Another Monza spectacle is probably too much to ask but it will be interesting to see the cars on this beautiful track anyway. 1000 Grandi Premi! Grazie Ferrari!  |
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Post by René on Sept 11, 2020 14:31:12 GMT
What a great track, looks absolutely fabulous to see the F1 cars go around here! No more Tilke tracks please!
The Ferraris still struggling for pace as was to be expected but I hope they can have a descent result on sunday. Forza!
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Post by Carl on Sept 11, 2020 15:50:09 GMT
What a great track, looks absolutely fabulous to see the F1 cars go around here! No more Tilke tracks please! The Ferraris still struggling for pace as was to be expected but I hope they can have a descent result on sunday. Forza! I wonder if by signing tilke to a long-term sterile track project, the poison dwarf displayed his contempt for the sport. |
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Post by chrisb on Sept 11, 2020 19:47:14 GMT
one wonders who had fingers in the Tilke pie?
I have yet to see any of the track but there seems to be some very positive feedback which is refreshing to say the least
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Post by Carl on Sept 11, 2020 23:48:10 GMT
What a perfect setting for a beautiful track! How ecclestone and his bloodless venture capitalists could disregard, year after year, even the possibility of a non-championship race at Mugello was criminal neglect.
When I have chosen Valtteri Bottas to win, he deflates like a whoopee cushion. So I'm choosing Charles Leclerc to be in the right position on Sunday to swoop to victory after Hamilton is disqualified for locking up his brakes and running over the feet of his entire right-side pit crew.
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Post by René on Sept 12, 2020 10:40:07 GMT
What a perfect setting for a beautiful track! How ecclestone and his bloodless venture capitalists could disregard, year after year, even the possibility of a non-championship race at Mugello was criminal neglect. When I have chosen Valtteri Bottas to win, he deflates like a whoopee cushion. So I'm choosing Charles Leclerc to be in the right position on Sunday to swoop to victory after Hamilton is disqualified for locking up his brakes and running over the feet of his entire right-side pit crew. It is beautiful, isn't it. The only reason they haven't raced here before is money Carl, can't think of any other reason. I mean, it's so much better than any track ever designed by Herr Tilke, maybe with the exception of Turkey. But that track is a mix of copied sections from several classic tracks... which resulted in his best design!  They should keep Mugello on the calendar and hopefully with the new generation of cars in 2022 we could see some great racing... we can hope. |
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Post by René on Sept 12, 2020 14:31:28 GMT
P5. Fantastic result for Charles Leclerc! He is an exceptional talent and really does remind of Gilles.  Sorry to see Sebastian so far back. He doesn't get to grips with the Ferrari and it must be difficult to keep motivated. But good for him he has a new contract for next year but I do feel sorry for Checo. But maybe he'll move to Indycar, who knows. |
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Post by mikael on Sept 12, 2020 16:30:03 GMT
It's a beautiful track indeed. And the cornering speeds are just breathtaking. Also, the engines continue to get a boost each year - and each year, they sound a tad better than the year before (I think ...).
But speaking of the beautiful racetracks: there's really something almost magical over Monza - especially places like the underpass/viaduct under the old oval, which look like they always have done. (Would really love to go there, some day ...)
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Post by charleselan on Sept 12, 2020 18:15:59 GMT
How has this place never had a F1 GP before that counted for there world championship; a stunning track that actually looks so different from when it has MotoGP, yet it isn't  . The backdrop is simply outstanding and worth it alone, just beautiful. Some of the camera angles are also excellent especially that one where we have a rear view of the cars going up and over a rise, a bit like the old Austrian GP track. Firstly let me say that I really like the look of the Ferrari's in that very dark red, so much better than the "Fablon' Matte Red currently in vogue. Croft was espousing this afternoon on S*YF1 that it was the same shade as used by the first F1 Ferrari's the 125's in 1950. Sorry to disabuse the fool but it most certainly wasn't, they were much brighter. The cars that Ferrari produced in a similar shade of dark red were the early sports cars just after WW2, which were also prefixed as 125's. In fact the darkest red on any Ferrari GP car were those used by Kimi and Felipe Massa for a short period following the almost orange coloured cars in Michael's later years. Another truly outstanding performance from young Charles yet again, and also Max. Also a big shout out for Kimi who is literally driving the wheels off that Alfa Romeo, but no body seems to notice, I have a feeling this is his last season and like JYS did in 1973 he is savouring every last race. |
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Post by chrisb on Sept 13, 2020 8:07:07 GMT
I actually watched the truncated highlights on an ever annoying utub, that is insisting I sign in, watch adverts whether I want to or not and generally being a bloody nuisance, and whilst not in the remotest surprised by the result, the ad nauseam adulation was a bit wearing -
the Scarlet cars look good, Seb is just well, I'm not sure hopefully he gets his mojo back next year but he is starting to remind me of Jody post championship
as a motorbike racer fan I worry if the F1 cars will damage the circuit with their incredible downforce but what a circuit, proper motor racing, isn't it great that we still have Spa, Monza and now Mugello
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Post by René on Sept 13, 2020 11:41:09 GMT
It's a beautiful track indeed. And the cornering speeds are just breathtaking. Also, the engines continue to get a boost each year - and each year, they sound a tad better than the year before (I think ...).
But speaking of the beautiful racetracks: there's really something almost magical over Monza - especially places like the underpass/viaduct under the old oval, which look like they always have done. (Would really love to go there, some day ...)
Mikael, I can only confirm that Monza is magical for a race fan. I've been there several time but the last time was in 2003 so quite a while back. I remember the track and surroundings already looked a bit more 'corporate' compared to the late 80's and 90's but the atmosphere was still there. And I believe that is still the case, or at least I hope so. The part shown in your picture between Lesmo 2 and the Variante Ascari is indeed magic. I've been there and when the cars go under the bridge the noise is magnified ten times, wonderful. This part of the track is called Serraglio, the name alone... |
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Post by René on Sept 13, 2020 11:48:55 GMT
How has this place never had a F1 GP before that counted for there world championship; a stunning track that actually looks so different from when it has MotoGP, yet it isn't . The backdrop is simply outstanding and worth it alone, just beautiful. Some of the camera angles are also excellent especially that one where we have a rear view of the cars going up and over a rise, a bit like the old Austrian GP track. Firstly let me say that I really like the look of the Ferrari's in that very dark red, so much better than the "Fablon' Matte Red currently in vogue. Croft was espousing this afternoon on S*YF1 that it was the same shade as used by the first F1 Ferrari's the 125's in 1950. Sorry to disabuse the fool but it most certainly wasn't, they were much brighter. The cars that Ferrari produced in a similar shade of dark red were the early sports cars just after WW2, which were also prefixed as 125's. In fact the darkest red on any Ferrari GP car were those used by Kimi and Felipe Massa for a short period following the almost orange coloured cars in Michael's later years. Another truly outstanding performance from young Charles yet again, and also Max. Also a big shout out for Kimi who is literally driving the wheels off that Alfa Romeo, but no body seems to notice, I have a feeling this is his last season and like JYS did in 1973 he is savouring every last race. Good observation on the Ferrari colour. The Grand Prix cars were never this dark burgundy red so I was a bit surprised they chose this shade. But it does look cool even if it would have looked better without sponsor stickers, only race numbers. I would however prefer that Ferrari reverses to its classic 'pre-Schumacher' scarlet red. Ferrari red. For this afternoon, a small miracolo is needed but sometimes they do happen. FORZA FERRARI. FORZA SEB. FORZA CHARLES! |
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Post by Carl on Sept 13, 2020 22:57:33 GMT
This was more a vulgar conspiracy to force a beautiful road course against its will than a race.
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 14, 2020 8:02:11 GMT
This was more a vulgar conspiracy to force a beautiful road course against its will than a race.
Spa and Mugello, two beautiful race tracks, two Grand Prix spoiled by Merc dominance and the team's desire not to give LH a whiff of competition from anyone. I see that Hamilton has scored more pole positions in the Mercedes than Senna did in his whole ten year career. That shows the superiority of the Mercedes car. Like Schumacher, Hamilton may statistically have won the most races. championships, noddy badges etc but it will not make him the greatest. Talking of Schumacher, there is a new seven part documentary on Sky called the Race To Perfection and it is about the last 70 years of F1. I have seen half of Ep 1 and it looks good. What I haven't seen in it yet, but read about it, was that Massa revealed that Schumacher intentionally parked his car at the last corner in qualifying back in 2006. Another incident that takes the gloss off his achievements. |
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Post by charleselan on Sept 14, 2020 11:42:09 GMT
As I sit here this lunchtime there is so much to think and talk about this past weekend, it really is very difficult to know where to begin without going down some tangent or other.
For me this glorious track that was long overdue to hold a world championship car race event was actually polluted by truly terrible race direction, and the fact that a pure circuit like this highlighted the absurdity of these things they currently call Formula One cars. The leviathan dimensions of these trucks were plainly illustrated as the cars funnelled into the tight "Esses" that brought about the initial accident.
O.K. Smaller more nimble race cars would also probably collide in similar circumstances, but at least there would have been more room to manoeuvre. I would also like to ask Max Verstappen what the blazes you were doing on the racing line when you knew your car had lost power, and in the middle of the pack. Sure you are a racing driver, and all that stuff, but common sense.............
The re-start melee was something else again, an accident waiting to happen as some have suggested elsewhere (Lewis Hamilton in particular) and yet here we are hearing the Race Director saying it was fine and all of the drivers fault, what a complete and utter tw*t! I will add to that an irresponsible idiot who should be sacked with immediate effect.
As for the race we had yet another MB demonstration, except for Mr Bottas tardiness at the start and his inability to challenge Lewis in any shape or form. After the race we get the same old routine from the MB drivers and team of how hard it was Blah! Blah! Pleased for Alex Albon in getting his podium after a spirited drive towards the end, nice to hear on YouTube Charles Leclerc's radio message saying how pleased he was for Alex. Charles is such a classy young lad in so many ways, and what a driver. Getting the dark red barge into third place at the beginning was pure Villeneuve; yet tragic to see where it ended up.
Another outstanding drive by George Russell, but like Charles totally wasted. F1 needs to really get its act in order and allow these fantastic young talents to challenge Hamilton properly. No doubting Lewis' ability, but surely even he can see the hollowness of all these wins as it stands now. Yet on S*YF1 we have that clown Croft reeling off these "amazing" statistics of they greatest driver of all time. Does it ever cross the mindless moron, and his ilk, mind to actually base the credibility on actual races completed in to win ratio!
I have said this time and time again, I know, but Kimi drove another blinder that went totally unrecognised again. Forget the five second penalty he had both Ferrari's covered in the last part of the race, and all Croft and Brundle could do was comment on whether Russell could claw back the five seconds to get a point; and there was the Kimster driving the wheels off the Alfa. Apparently Fréd Vasseur has said that Kimi is their first choice for 2021 should he wish to continue, but it is up to him.
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. The backdrop is simply outstanding and worth it alone, just beautiful.