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Post by charleselan on Sept 5, 2020 10:05:34 GMT
talking of Shadow's - visited Tom Pryce's memorial in Wales, sorry about the self-inclusion No need to apologise Chris, wear it with pride my boy and a lovely thing to commemorate the occasion.
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Post by Carl on Sept 5, 2020 16:13:47 GMT
talking of Shadow's - visited Tom Pryce's memorial in Wales, sorry about the self-inclusion No need to apologise Chris, wear it with pride my boy and a lovely thing to commemorate the occasion. Indeed. Those who admired Tom Pryce should stand by him now, just as you did.
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Post by René on Sept 6, 2020 11:04:07 GMT
If you are minded to scratch build a Shadow DN9 in 1/32nd scale then I have some drawings of the car that my former business partner in our little magazine produced. They are pretty good and were actually used by producer of 1/43rd white metal kits at the time. However as the producer Mikansue Models mainly concentrated on British road cars of an historical content they did not make the Samson Shag car only the more graphically basic Elio de Angelis car. Thanks, much appreciated. The shape is relatively simple, it 's more a matter of getting the proportions right so a good drawing would come in handy.
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Post by charleselan on Oct 5, 2020 13:51:56 GMT
I have been looking at more new releases from Spark in their 1/43rd scale range of models and found a reasonably priced new model of Ronnie's Austrian GP winning Lotus 72E from 1973, located from a dealer in Italy. The much anticipated release of the 1969 Lotus 59 that Ronnie made a one off appearance in at the Albi GP towards the end of that season is now out and about to be ordered.
This is quite an interesting car as it was the only year that Roy Winkleman ran the F2 Team Lotus cars, taking over from the Ron Harris team who ran the F2 cars for Colin Chapman. In fact Winkleman only ran the cars for one year as the team then became the Jochen Rindt Team Lotus in 1970 and I believe run by Bernie Ecclestone. The team normally ran two cars for Jochen and Graham Hill in 1969, but after his sensational F3 season Ronnie made a few one off appearances in F2, firstly with Tecno and then this drive with Winkleman at Albi.
In the race Ronnie finished 5th but it was in practice that he caught the eye of Graham Hill when he sat behind the former twice world champion for several laps. At first Graham could not work out who it was shadowing him around the track, and then thinking it was Jochen when he noticed it was car similar to his own. When returning to the pits he was surprised to see that Jochen was sitting there and had not been following him, he then realised it was Ronnie and said something to the effect of "that boy is bloody quick".
On a another subject while checking out the prices of this model i happened upon one of the larger UK Diecast sellers site and was astonished to see that they were asking some outrageous prices for the Minichamps Formula Atlantic March cars driven by Gilles. Firstly the white "Direct Film" car was on sale for £299.99 and the green earlier version was up for a whopping £499.99. OK that is an asking price but if correct they represent some investment.
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Post by René on Oct 5, 2020 14:39:18 GMT
I have been looking at more new releases from Spark in their 1/43rd scale range of models and found a reasonably priced new model of Ronnie's Austrian GP winning Lotus 72E from 1973, located from a dealer in Italy. The much anticipated release of the 1969 Lotus 59 that Ronnie made a one off appearance in at the Albi GP towards the end of that season is now out and about to be ordered. This is quite an interesting car as it was the only year that Roy Winkleman ran the F2 Team Lotus cars, taking over from the Ron Harris team who ran the F2 cars for Colin Chapman. In fact Winkleman only ran the cars for one year as the team then became the Jochen Rindt Team Lotus in 1970 and I believe run by Bernie Ecclestone. The team normally ran two cars for Jochen and Graham Hill in 1969, but after his sensational F3 season Ronnie made a few one off appearances in F2, firstly with Tecno and then this drive with Winkleman at Albi. In the race Ronnie finished 5th but it was in practice that he caught the eye of Graham Hill when he sat behind the former twice world champion for several laps. At first Graham could not work out who it was shadowing him around the track, and then thinking it was Jochen when he noticed it was car similar to his own. When returning to the pits he was surprised to see that Jochen was sitting there and had not been following him, he then realised it was Ronnie and said something to the effect of "that boy is bloody quick". On a another subject while checking out the prices of this model i happened upon one of the larger UK Diecast sellers site and was astonished to see that they were asking some outrageous prices for the Minichamps Formula Atlantic March cars driven by Gilles. Firstly the white "Direct Film" car was on sale for £299.99 and the green earlier version was up for a whopping £499.99. OK that is an asking price but if correct they represent some investment.
Those prices for Gilles's Formula Atlantic by Minichamps are insane. Is anyone really willing to pay £300 to £500 for a 1/43 model? I have a few 1/18 in that range (which is also insane I have to admit..) but still, good that I have one of those Gilles cars!
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Post by charleselan on Oct 5, 2020 15:47:59 GMT
I have been looking at more new releases from Spark in their 1/43rd scale range of models and found a reasonably priced new model of Ronnie's Austrian GP winning Lotus 72E from 1973, located from a dealer in Italy. The much anticipated release of the 1969 Lotus 59 that Ronnie made a one off appearance in at the Albi GP towards the end of that season is now out and about to be ordered. This is quite an interesting car as it was the only year that Roy Winkleman ran the F2 Team Lotus cars, taking over from the Ron Harris team who ran the F2 cars for Colin Chapman. In fact Winkleman only ran the cars for one year as the team then became the Jochen Rindt Team Lotus in 1970 and I believe run by Bernie Ecclestone. The team normally ran two cars for Jochen and Graham Hill in 1969, but after his sensational F3 season Ronnie made a few one off appearances in F2, firstly with Tecno and then this drive with Winkleman at Albi. In the race Ronnie finished 5th but it was in practice that he caught the eye of Graham Hill when he sat behind the former twice world champion for several laps. At first Graham could not work out who it was shadowing him around the track, and then thinking it was Jochen when he noticed it was car similar to his own. When returning to the pits he was surprised to see that Jochen was sitting there and had not been following him, he then realised it was Ronnie and said something to the effect of "that boy is bloody quick". On a another subject while checking out the prices of this model i happened upon one of the larger UK Diecast sellers site and was astonished to see that they were asking some outrageous prices for the Minichamps Formula Atlantic March cars driven by Gilles. Firstly the white "Direct Film" car was on sale for £299.99 and the green earlier version was up for a whopping £499.99. OK that is an asking price but if correct they represent some investment.
Those prices for Gilles's Formula Atlantic by Minichamps are insane. Is anyone really willing to pay £300 to £500 for a 1/43 model? I have a few 1/18 in that range (which is also insane I have to admit..) but still, good that I have one of those Gilles cars! Totally insane as you say. I think that some of these dealers are speculators particularly the ones who have "stores" on eBay in the UK. You always notice that there are certain drivers cars that always suddenly get inflated prices after the model has been released for a few months as well. Also noticeable are the German dealers who I, and you use, who do not indulge in such activity and keep the prices fair.
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Post by mikael on Oct 9, 2020 17:24:54 GMT
Might you be moved to collect a few more models at a reasonable price? JC JC, a very reply on that question, but yes, I think so. One thing I like about these scale-accurate models is the possibility to compare the size of the cars that you admire. Two cars that I truly admire are (i) the Porsche 917, especially the 1970 Gulf livery ones of John Wyer; the 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 - in my opinion the most beautiful racing car ever made. I think I will purchase 1:43 models of these cars.
Best regards, Mikael
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Post by charleselan on Oct 9, 2020 17:40:33 GMT
Absolutely Mikael they are two of the most fantastic race cars ever to have graced this planet. I have both modelled in 1/43rd scale, built from kits. The P4 was a very detailed white metal kit from Italy with lift off rear decking to reveal all of the engine and transaxle, way ahead of its time for those type of kits. The Porsche I have was what is called a transkit which means that it had some detail parts that one could use to rebuild a standard die cast model. The die cast was good for the period (early 1980's) and the transkit pieces and new decals were good, so I have a good model of Pedro's Gulf short tail 917.
This week has been a good as both of the Ronnie Peterson models I ordered have arrived. Earlier in the week the 1973 Austrian GP winning Lotus 72E was delivered from Italy, it was great find as I had no idea that a Spark model had been released of this car.
Today arriving from the UK was the 1969 F2 Albi GP Lotus 59 that Ronnie made a one off appearance in, finishing an excellent 5th place. The 59 was such a neat little car and marked the temporary return by Lotus to a tubular space frame chassis, although quite unique in that it used square section tubing as opposed to the more conventional round section.
I must take some photos of these models and post them in this section over the weekend.
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Post by Carl on Oct 9, 2020 18:54:43 GMT
Might you be moved to collect a few more models at a reasonable price? JC JC, a very reply on that question, but yes, I think so. One thing I like about these scale-accurate models is the possibility to compare the size of the cars that you admire. Two cars that I truly admire are (i) the Porsche 917, especially the 1970 Gulf livery ones of John Wyer; the 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 - in my opinion the most beautiful racing car ever made. I think I will purchase 1:43 models of these cars.
Best regards, Mikael
The early 917 now seems a little bulbous to my eyes, but the Ferrari 330 P4...
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Post by René on Oct 10, 2020 12:38:47 GMT
A couple of years ago I bought a nice 1/43 model of the 330P4 at a classic car exhibition. It's by French manufacturer Jouef from the Evolution series. I don't know how old this model is but it's very attractive with lots of interior and engine detail. The box is also quite nice. If I remember correctly I paid €20,- for this model, a bargain.
Next to its 1/32 slot car relative.
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Post by mikael on Oct 11, 2020 16:57:53 GMT
A couple of years ago I bought a nice 1/43 model of the 330P4 at a classic car exhibition. It's by French manufacturer Jouef from the Evolution series. I don't know how old this model is but it's very attractive with lots of interior and engine detail. The box is also quite nice. If I remember correctly I paid €20,- for this model, a bargain.
René, thank you for posting those photos. Amazing level of detail for a 1/43 model!
Yes, it's not always that "the newer the better" applies. Often, it's quite the opposite. Like with books. Books made in the 70's and 80's (sometimes also those from the 90's) were typically made such that they can last forever, even the paperback. Now, even expensive hardbacks (from the 00's and 10's) start to fall apart after just a few "browsing through's".
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Post by charleselan on Oct 11, 2020 18:35:35 GMT
Jouef made some excellent little die casts along with the likes of Solido and Super Champion, although the latter mostly made their 1/43rd models out of injection moulded plastic. That Ferrari P4 model is a classic and was outstanding for the period in which it was produced.
Interestingly most of the Spark and Minichamps models produced these days are cast in resin like many of the kits that were produced back in late 1970's to 1990's by Starter, Provence Moulage and Teneriv. Obviously cheaper to produce than die casting and more fine detail can be produced also.
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Post by charleselan on Mar 12, 2021 18:46:47 GMT
I began looking through Spark Models catalogue yesterday and focused on the models that are due in the next few months and two caught my eye. Firstly they are going to do the Formula Two Protos Cosworth FVA of Brian Hart that ran in the F2 section of the 1967 German GP. Such an interesting car that had the typical Frank Costin aerodynamic (slippery) bodywork and of course the unique wooden monocoque chassis. The driver in this instance was the excellent Brian Hart who was a very good F3 and then F2 driver in the 1960's but is far better known for his superb racing engines. His Formula two engines were outstanding especially in the Toleman TG280 which won the F2 Championship with the underrated Brian Henton. He also worked miracles with his F1 turbo engines competing against far more financially backed organisations. Anyway the bright red Protos is on my purchase list as F2 cars from that period are of great interest to me obviously. The next release is pretty obscure but driven by the greatest Jim Clark. In 1962 Jim as usual pursued his interest in driving in different events and trying out unusual cars. So this time he entered the Swiss Hill Climb event at Ollons-Villars and did drive a Lotus F1 car but not from Team Lotus; on this occasion he drove the bright red Scuderia Filipinetti Lotus 21 that was normally driven at that time by Jo Siffert in his early F1 career. The car featured a rather strange rear engine cover that was more like that of the Lotus 24 but the car did not have a Coventry Climax V8 motor just the old 4 cylinder engine. Not much info' on the car at this meting but i have dug out a few pictures. Of course another car to add to the collection when it is released .
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Post by René on Mar 13, 2021 11:16:32 GMT
Those sound like very interesting models. Never knew Clark also drove for the Scuderia Filipinetti, even if it was for this one occasion. The Lotus does look good in red, doesn't it? Ah well, the David Piper Ferraris also looked good in green! I do remember very well the Toleman TG280 by the way. Always loved the look of that car.
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Post by charleselan on Mar 13, 2021 13:23:27 GMT
Here are some pre-production shots of the two Spark Models described above. Firstly Brian Hart's F2 Protos Cosworth FVA from the 1967 German GP. Then we have the interesting Jim Clark Lotus 21 entered by Scuderia Filipinetti at the Ollon-Villars Hill Climb in 1962.
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