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Post by René on Jul 5, 2019 12:50:02 GMT
Can Fabio Quartararo and Maverick Viñales continue their strong form on the Sachsenring? And what about Ducati? They need to step up to challenge Honda and Márquez for the title.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 5, 2019 16:19:37 GMT
I cannot see anyone beating Marquez this weekend at a circuit ideally suited to him and the Honda, maybe Fabio's luck will change but I do not think it is time for the young man to win just yet.
I would like to think that Alex Rins could take it to Marquez; and Maverick but just do not see that happening either. The Ducati's are proving to be disappointing currently and I think they are missing Jorge's drive; neither party have come out of the split well sadly with Lorenzo being injured yet again following another big crash in practice at Assen. I just wonder how many more injuries that lad can take; shades of Dani Pedrosa at Honda already.
The Honda would appear to be designed, or suited to Marquez rodeo riding style, and apparently they are not prepared to change it. A narrow mind set that could come back and haunt them should anything happen to the chosen one.
It is also soul destroying watching someone as good as Zarco being humiliated on the KTM; and hearing people speak so highly of Pol Espargaro who is riding it well. Pol has had a few years on the bike now and matches his style currently, but that doesn't mean it will progress from there. Pol maybe riding well right now but he sin't an elite rider, and I would wager that if he were put on a Yamaha alongside Fabio or Johann he would be hard pressed to keep up. It's a case of horses for courses.
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Post by chrisb on Jul 6, 2019 6:30:12 GMT
Marquez is so much the favourite it is almost an embarrassment just how much quicker he is, Cal spoke of the lean angles Marquez goes down to in order for his speed, which indicates just how close he is prepared to take it to the edge, but as Ducati learned when Stoner left - no one else could ride that bike and it took them years to make it user friendly, I think we are seeing the same with Honda and KTM, and especially with KTM this is a totally wrong direction, Zarco is one class act and on a Yamaha would be up there - or a Ducati come to that - but the bikes that require less finesse and more brute handling will always be for a certain type of rider. Ideal would be for Suzuki to launch a satellite team with Zarco as I really believe he will blow them away, what is not good listening is how disenchanted KTM are with Zarco and how he may lose that seat sooner than later, that would be a travesty - Cal is a race winner and cannot manage the 2019 Honda that Marquez is blowing everyone else away with, should another manufacturer or Marquez has a problem - Honda will be in the same place as KTM, perhaps if a Suzuki satellite team happens maybe Lorenzo and Zarco could ride for them!
For the race, I am hoping Rins and the Mav can stay with Marquez, I worry about Fabio's arm and how he can sustain his speed over race distance but I have gone for the Mav purely and simply in hope not expectation
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Post by René on Jul 6, 2019 10:36:37 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong but could a comparison be made between the way Márquez masters the Honda and the way Vettel mastered the double diffuser Red Bull some years ago? Noone seems to be able to ride the Honda the way Marc does and noone could really touch Seb in the double diffuser era. I know some say Vettel was lucky he had the best car then but the Bull was never as dominant as the Merc and the way Vettel 'danced' through the streets of Singapore was sheer mastery. Driving that car needed a counter-intuitive driving style as Mark Hughes once explained and maybe that is also the case with the Honda bike. Just a thought...
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Post by charleselan on Jul 6, 2019 11:33:18 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong but could a comparison be made between the way Márquez masters the Honda and the way Vettel mastered the double diffuser Red Bull some years ago? Noone seems to be able to ride the Honda the way Marc does and noone could really touch Seb in the double diffuser era. I know some say Vettel was lucky he had the best car then but the Bull was never as dominant as the Merc and the way Vettel 'danced' through the streets of Singapore was sheer mastery. Driving that car needed a counter-intuitive driving style as Mark Hughes once explained and maybe that is also the case with the Honda bike. Just a thought... I think there may be some comparisons but obviously for different reasons. One of the big factors in MotoGP is the electronics and how the affect the machine, and what they do. I recall an interview with Scott a short while ago when he stated quite categorically that he "hated ******* electronics". Scott loves BSB now as it has very limited electronics; no traction control etc, it is all down to the rider and his right wrist. Many teams and riders who are struggling in MotoGP currently have the electronic control issues more than anything else and that is why they cannot perform. It has been said by many observers that the Honda is set up to suit Marquez and his riding style and that is why others cannot ride the bike. I personally would like to see Marquez move to another team and see what he could do in a different environment, others have done it and succeeded like Rossi & Casey Stoner in more recent times.
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