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Post by charleselan on Jun 28, 2019 12:04:25 GMT
What an interesting topic for discussion. I believe that Ian Fleming was quite interested in motor racing himself, something about Bentley's comes to mind.
Anyway how about these, but I have gone back in time for a more traditional feel.
James Bond - Richard Seaman.
Arch Villain Gold Finger - Ecclestone (its the money don't you know).
Arch Villain Le Chiffre - Flabio Briatore (cheating is the game).
Arch Villain Stavro Blofeld - Tonto Wolff (just has to be).
"M" - Alfred Neubauer followed by Ken Tyrrell followed by ? (can't think of a woman remotely up to the great Judi Dench).
"Q" - Adrian Newey.
Money Penny - Lee McKenzie (one for Chris).
Any takers for Pussy Galore?
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Post by Carl on Jun 28, 2019 16:29:34 GMT
That's an excellent thought, Jim! There certainly has been an excess of self-serving villainy in Formula One! I nominate ecclestone as the most accomplished devotee of evil.
I wonder if Chase Carey's moustache has any special devices akin to those on Bond's DB-5
The very first winner at Monaco, William Grover-Williams, was an actual secret agent and true hero of World War ll, whose bravery exceeded by good measure the demands of the Masta Kink at full throttle.
Carl, Not to forget the equally brave Robert Benoit who also perished at the hands of the Nazi's, plus many more incredible brave souls. John Charles John Charles, Amen to that. He, Grover-Williams and Jean-Pierre Wimille all returned to France, in coordination with English Special Services, as a team to help the Resistance. Wimille survived the war and was able to reclaim racing success. The other two were both captured and executed.
Extraordinary courage at which most can only wonder.
-Carl
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Post by robmarsh on Jun 28, 2019 17:34:29 GMT
Carl, Not to forget the equally brave Robert Benoit who also perished at the hands of the Nazi's, plus many more incredible brave souls. John Charles John Charles, Amen to that. He, Grover-Williams and Jean-Pierre Wimille all returned to France, in coordination with English Special Services, as a team to help the Resistance. Wimille survived the war and was able to reclaim racing success. The other two were both captured and executed.
Extraordinary courage at which most can only wonder.
-Carl
Carl/Charles there is a book called "Grand Prix Saboteur by Joe Saward which tells the story about Grover-Williams and others. I have a copy which I need to read sometime soon. |
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Post by chrisb on Jun 30, 2019 11:30:03 GMT
in answer to your question Jim, regarding how do we gauge a drivers ability which i think is a good question for debate, because I don't know these days, i knew in yesteryear as they raced in so many different cars, so many different series - we could see their lines, their smoothness or their tiger elements, if they were 'dirty' or clean, aggressive or didn't need to be, how they won, or lost, or fought or gave up, but now in the limited vision I have of current F1 races the only comparisons I can have is against their 'team-mate' and if they consistently beat someone 'with a reputation' do I still know if they are 'that good'?
in a sense all the current Formula One divers are all magical and have a talent very few others can dream of, but how good? difficult to tell, certainly they don't get the chance to show us their worth, the only drivers that I can relate to are Alonso and the Hulk and how well they did elsewhere
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Post by chrisb on Jun 30, 2019 11:33:20 GMT
all were incredible brave and really were martyrs to freedom, something tragically a lot of people seem to have forgotten, mainly English politicians, the Welsh and the Scots seem to have more sense and the Irish are as divided as usual. but not let their memories fade is a wonderful tribute to their courage
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Post by Carl on Jul 1, 2019 0:27:11 GMT
What an interesting topic for discussion. I believe that Ian Fleming was quite interested in motor racing himself, something about Bentley's comes to mind. Anyway how about these, but I have gone back in time for a more traditional feel. James Bond - Richard Seaman. Arch Villain Gold Finger - Ecclestone (its the money don't you know). Arch Villain Le Chiffre - Flabio Briatore (cheating is the game). Arch Villain Stavro Blofeld - Tonto Wolff (just has to be). "M" - Alfred Neubauer followed by Ken Tyrrell followed by ? (can't think of a woman remotely up to the great Judi Dench). "Q" - Adrian Newey. Money Penny - Lee McKenzie (one for Chris). Any takers for Pussy Galore? John Charles, All great choices, villainous and heroic, but how is it you know so many villains?  Alfred Neubauer would be the perfect "M" and if Chris were licensed to kill, Miss Moneypenny would be his for the taking. Vic Elford would also have been a good James Bond. He looks the part and has been both shaken and stirred during his many Monte Carlo Rallies. Linda Vaughn would be a less acrobatic Pussy Galore, although how galorious would only be known when gazes were lowered.  Cheers, Carl |
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Alfred Neubauer would be the perfect "M" and if Chris were licensed to kill, Miss Moneypenny would be his for the taking. 