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Post by René on Dec 15, 2020 20:32:59 GMT
oh brilliant, will have to return to it, but watched the start and that wonderful noise and those cars were just beautiful, thank you Rene, beautiful Yes, I also look forward to watching the entire race and wonder if the helicopter in the opening scene was delivering our administrator and his entourage of Hawaiian Tropic ladies to a deluxe suite.  Ha yes, my jetset lifestyle started already at a very early age!   ... I was 12 in 1977!  |
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Post by René on Dec 15, 2020 20:41:38 GMT
René, Wonderful! It's absorbing to see an entire race unfold, especially during the glory days of Formula One. Mario Andretti on pole was a remarkable 6/10ths faster than second qualifier Jacques Laffite but James Hunt made the best start from the second row and I remember how furious Mario was, probably with justification, when James forced him wide exiting the first turn. Carl, I believe this to be the race in which Mario and James Hunt had a heated exchange about the principles of overtaking. Mario was mighty peeved with Hunt for the incident you outlined and was frustrated being stuck behind him as a result of the Lotus 78's lack of top speed. He eventually attempted to run around the outside of James at Tarzan which was more or less successfully completed until Hunt ran out into him causing a collision and retirement. James Hunt was vociferous in complaining about Andretti's driving and that you cannot overtake around the outside, to which Mario replied that he would overtake where ever he could, end of conversation. Another example of "English Exceptionalism" . Cheers John It's actually interesting that Mario tries the same move at Niki several laps later. In lap 10 (at 24 mins) Mario goes to the outside of the Ferrari at exactly the same place but Niki is not having it. They even touch wheels. Also clear to see is the superior road holding of the Lotus. Clearly faster in the corners but losing out on the straights. Early ground effect at work! But all these '77 cars are so cool, wide and low. |
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Post by robmarsh on Dec 16, 2020 9:37:07 GMT
....and short. the cars Rene, the cars.
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Post by charleselan on Dec 16, 2020 19:02:42 GMT
Proportionally correct in every way. By the way I am referring to the cars of the 1970's not the Hawaiian Tropic girls who are more than that  . Those ladies always looked amazing in the tiny knitted bikinis at Le Mans, I managed a few shots of them in 1991 but was overcome with embarrassment at the time for some stupid reason as the girls were quite happy to pose. |
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Post by robmarsh on Dec 17, 2020 0:23:06 GMT
Charles you are a gentleman
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Post by chrisb on Dec 17, 2020 9:41:31 GMT
many years ago at Le Mans [83?]  |
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Post by chrisb on Dec 17, 2020 9:43:26 GMT
sadly I was less than a gentleman -
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Post by charleselan on Dec 18, 2020 18:10:54 GMT
This is a full length film of the 1968 British GP at Brands Hatch, pretty good quality even if only in monochrome. The commentator/announcer is none other than the legendary Anthony Marsh who graced all the Grand Prix that I attended in the UK from 1969 onwards (he was doing it long before then as well).
Over the public address system one would have Anthony Marsh chuntering away as he patrolled the pit lane giving details of what each team and driver were doing. Sort of like a talking living DSJ.
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Post by chrisb on Dec 20, 2020 10:12:10 GMT
sad as it may sound I could never get around to watching any 1968 race after the South African GP , I remember reading Graham's words of frustration and the comments of congratulations to the marvellous Seppi
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Post by charleselan on Dec 20, 2020 11:42:11 GMT
I just had to post this film after seeing it for the first time on YouTube last evening. It is yet another amateur (I believe it to be so but the quality and positioning is outstanding) film made at the very first Swedish Grand Prix in 1973. Obviously shot with cine camera and digitised, the colour and quality are outstanding and the action shots are dare I say epic, with the drivers promoting oversteer even Mr Smooth JYS.
Sadly no sound but you can almost make it up yourself as you watch, also seeing Ronnie & Emerson going around in tandem makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
Those cars in 1973 were something special.
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Post by Carl on Dec 22, 2020 5:20:27 GMT
1977 Dutch Grand Prix
After leading every lap with two World Champions in hot pursuit, Jacques Lafitte's tyres are showing wear (29:45) and when Mario Andretti returns to the Lotus pit after his engine explodes on lap 14, he's apparently met by his 14 year old son, Michael.
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Post by Carl on Dec 22, 2020 5:23:22 GMT
This is a full length film of the 1968 British GP at Brands Hatch, pretty good quality even if only in monochrome. The commentator/announcer is none other than the legendary Anthony Marsh who graced all the Grand Prix that I attended in the UK from 1969 onwards (he was doing it long before then as well). Over the public address system one would have Anthony Marsh chuntering away as he patrolled the pit lane giving details of what each team and driver were doing. Sort of like a talking living DSJ. A fascinating event in what would have been a classic year if not tarnished by great loss. |
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Post by chrisb on Dec 22, 2020 9:57:34 GMT
sadly true Carl, a terrible year that in my humblest of opinions motor racing never really recovered from,
I think it is motorsport uk, that are on social media showing clips of Jimmy that I have not seen before, you have to sign up to them, something I have not done as yet, but there looks like some real gems there, talking of which on youtube recently there has been some great clips of the magical Ronnie, that are just breathtaking, how did he control that 72 at those speeds and with such brilliance he really was on a different level.
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Post by mikael on Dec 23, 2020 14:38:52 GMT
Here is something quite unique, I think(*), to enjoy during Christmas, if time allows: in this movie we're onboard with Gerhard Berger at the 1989 Portuguese Grand Prix, at Estoril, from flag to flag - a race which he (Berger) won. There's no other sound than the Ferrari V12 - and warm-up lap + victory lap are included as well.
(*) Sorry on beforehand if this movie has been posted here on RRT before - I suddenly came in doubt about it ...
Youtube link (embedding here is not allowed, apparently):
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Post by René on Dec 23, 2020 16:08:38 GMT
This is a full length film of the 1968 British GP at Brands Hatch, pretty good quality even if only in monochrome. The commentator/announcer is none other than the legendary Anthony Marsh who graced all the Grand Prix that I attended in the UK from 1969 onwards (he was doing it long before then as well). Over the public address system one would have Anthony Marsh chuntering away as he patrolled the pit lane giving details of what each team and driver were doing. Sort of like a talking living DSJ. A fascinating event in what would have been a classic year if not tarnished by great loss. That is what 1982 will always be for me. |
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. Those ladies always looked amazing in the tiny knitted bikinis at Le Mans, I managed a few shots of them in 1991 but was overcome with embarrassment at the time for some stupid reason as the girls were quite happy to pose.
