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Post by charleselan on Sept 15, 2020 16:55:57 GMT
Some really excellent films indeed.
The 1962 Monaco GP film is I believe an excerpt from the high quality film produced by a German film maker that I posted last year. The film quality on the original is truly breathtaking as it was done to full movie specification which was very rare in those days.
The Pathé News clip of the 1969 British GP from Silverstone was the very first car race meting I went to; actually the Friday Qualifying. It was the beginning for me at car races and i actually witnessed JYS' shunt in the morning at Woodcote where he wrote off his Matra MS80 (probably rebuilt later) after clipping a dislodged curb stone on the apex of this high speed bend. I can still hear the bang as his right front wheel hit the stone.
Team Lotus were down to use the new Lotus 63 FWD cars but both Jochen and Graham were adamant that they were not going to drive them, so Colin had to get back the 49B's he had sold to Jo Bonnier and give Jo the 63's to trundle around in. Poor old JPB had to use the Matra MS84 FWD car as that was Tyrrell's only spare after JYS seconded his MS80.
Derek Bell drove the McLaren FWD car as well; but the Cosworth that Trevor Taylor was down to drive had problems with its differentials and failed to appear, ever.
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Post by mikael on Sept 15, 2020 19:12:08 GMT
Pure magic indeed! Thanks a lot René.
In a way, it's a bit depressing to think about that the "heyday of mechanics" (in motorsport and elsewhere) is a thing of the past.
Funny to think about ... long ago, my father apparently sensed in what way the wind was blowing, and for a number years he always tried to get me interested in electronics. But it never grabbed me - it was always mechanics and mechanical things that fascinated me. Well, mechanics has changed our world, but that was long ago. Now it's electronics ...
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Post by Carl on Sept 16, 2020 3:30:45 GMT
Pure magic indeed! Thanks a lot René.
In a way, it's a bit depressing to think about that the "heyday of mechanics" (in motorsport and elsewhere) is a thing of the past.
Funny to think about ... long ago, my father apparently sensed in what way the wind was blowing, and for a number years he always tried to get me interested in electronics. But it never grabbed me - it was always mechanics and mechanical things that fascinated me. Well, mechanics has changed our world, but that was long ago. Now it's electronics ...
Mikael, In a world where good men are often afraid to act and bold fraudulence prevails, something has to intervene against the childish and reckless propaganda doing so much damage to society and democracy...which circulates electronically. It's likely that mechanical engineering expertise will be essential to restore a balance of truth. You and your father have both been right as winds change, but pendulums are mechanical and so is momentum. Cheers, Carl |
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Post by chrisb on Sept 16, 2020 7:54:32 GMT
Thanks again Rene, superb and sad at the same time, lamenting the passing of Grand Prix racing as I knew it but celebrating all that i enjoyed
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Post by René on Sept 16, 2020 19:09:59 GMT
Pure magic indeed! Thanks a lot René.
In a way, it's a bit depressing to think about that the "heyday of mechanics" (in motorsport and elsewhere) is a thing of the past.
Funny to think about ... long ago, my father apparently sensed in what way the wind was blowing, and for a number years he always tried to get me interested in electronics. But it never grabbed me - it was always mechanics and mechanical things that fascinated me. Well, mechanics has changed our world, but that was long ago. Now it's electronics ...
Here's one for you Mikael with your avatar in live action! It's an interesting mix of original footage of the 1966 Belgian Grand Prix and footage from the movie Grand Prix. It's really cool. |
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Post by mikael on Sept 16, 2020 20:11:33 GMT
Thanks again, René. It's really interesting to watch the many restored movies that are appearing in these years. I was complaining about the "electronic age", but it certainly brings a lot of good good things with it too - such as the fact that we're able to communicate in the way we are :-)
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Post by chrisb on Sept 21, 2020 16:15:48 GMT
totally agree Mikael, so much I take for granted such as messages aka these I mean historically we would probably by writing to each other
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Post by charleselan on Oct 30, 2020 14:37:55 GMT
Last evening I came across this incredible film of the 1955 Monaco Grand Prix. It is in full and glorious colour and is to a superb quality. Looking at the embedded inscription at the top right it would appear to have been shown by S*YF1 at some time; as i don't have a subscription to their service (and will never have one) I am not certain.
All the greats of the time are featured and it is amazing to see the Lancia D50's in full flight and colour, especially the great Alberto Ascari in his last ever race. His qualifying performance was something like that of Charles Leclerc in the current Ferrari against Mercedes Benz. Interesting also to se that the Ferrari's; Maserati's and Lancia's all appear to be of a similar shade of red in this film as I was always lead to believe that the Lancia was a much darker red.
It is a brilliant film, so enjoy.
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Post by Carl on Oct 30, 2020 17:58:07 GMT
Last evening I came across this incredible film of the 1955 Monaco Grand Prix. It is in full and glorious colour and is to a superb quality. Looking at the embedded inscription at the top right it would appear to have been shown by S*YF1 at some time; as i don't have a subscription to their service (and will never have one) I am not certain. All the greats of the time are featured and it is amazing to see the Lancia D50's in full flight and colour, especially the great Alberto Ascari in his last ever race. His qualifying performance was something like that of Charles Leclerc in the current Ferrari against Mercedes Benz. Interesting also to se that the Ferrari's; Maserati's and Lancia's all appear to be of a similar shade of red in this film as I was always lead to believe that the Lancia was a much darker red. It is a brilliant film, so enjoy. A great film! It's wonderful to see Monte Carlo without the abundance of ugly rectangular apartments and hugely ostentatious yachts crowding the harbor. I envied the people on the large balcony overlooking the exit of the Station hairpin. Although an apartment so near the train station would normally be undesirable, it's a perfect place on race weekend! |
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Post by chrisb on Oct 31, 2020 11:11:40 GMT
isn't it just brilliant, those vivid colours, how great the Lancia's looked, the expressions on Moss's and Hawthorn's faces said so much, and the circuit just looked so fantastic and of course Alberto, sadly his last race and how clever he had been to wait his opportunity - a true winner
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Post by René on Nov 18, 2020 23:52:35 GMT
I found this fascinating remastered film clip the other day of the fiery accident between Ickx and Oliver at the 1970 Spanish Grand Prix. You won't believe the (lack of) safety measures and the amateurism of the marshals and their equipment. Just unbelievable really but luckely in this case noone got seriously injured although Ickx was slightly burned. He could however compete again in the next race. But stil, amazing footage with great looking cars! In those days the race was never stopped...
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Post by Carl on Nov 19, 2020 1:18:52 GMT
I found this fascinating remastered film clip the other day of the fiery accident between Ickx and Oliver at the 1970 Spanish Grand Prix. You won't believe the (lack of) safety measures and the amateurism of the marshals and their equipment. Just unbelievable really but luckely in this case noone got seriously injured although Ickx was slightly burned. He could however compete again in the next race. But stil, amazing footage with great looking cars! In those days the race was never stopped... I remember a still photograph in Road & Track magazine taken before either driver had climbed from his car. I was impressed by the bravery of the drivers although the truly brave ones were the ill-equipped safety workers...
The first race I remember being stopped was the non-championship event at Brands Hatch in October, 1971, in which Jo Siffert was tragically killed.
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Post by chrisb on Nov 19, 2020 8:58:35 GMT
I've never seen this before, totally insane, such bravery such stupidity but beautiful cars, great sounds - a bit of a loss of words here- so grateful that in this instance no one was seriously injured, tragically as Carl reminds us, Seppi wasn't so fortunate, another cruel twist of life
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Post by robmarsh on Nov 19, 2020 9:51:51 GMT
Wow, they should remaster all the old clippings, really looked good.
Points I noted:
The impact seemed very light with for such an appalling result.
The drivers obviously didn't slow down for the waved double yellows etc, look how many spun even after being through the corner many times
as stated by others the marshalls were incredibly brave and F1 was lucky that it got away with only some burns to Jacky Ickx.
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Post by René on Nov 19, 2020 12:17:38 GMT
I found this fascinating remastered film clip the other day of the fiery accident between Ickx and Oliver at the 1970 Spanish Grand Prix. You won't believe the (lack of) safety measures and the amateurism of the marshals and their equipment. Just unbelievable really but luckely in this case noone got seriously injured although Ickx was slightly burned. He could however compete again in the next race. But stil, amazing footage with great looking cars! In those days the race was never stopped... I remember a still photograph in Road & Track magazine taken before either driver had climbed from his car. I was impressed by the bravery of the drivers although the truly brave ones were the ill-equipped safety workers...
The first race I remember being stopped was the non-championship event at Brands Hatch in October, 1971, in which Jo Siffert was tragically killed.
Must have been one of these photos Carl. Frightening pictures and amazing they both survived but as Rob noticed the actual impact wasn't that big so the monocoques were not deformed. Ickx was very lucky he wasn't burned more severely. The marshals were heros indeed but the whole situation is such a farce with the race continuing. Would they have stopped the race had one of the drivers been trapped in his car?
On the other hand, the ever present danger also made it fascinating to watch... still does. |
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