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Post by René on Jun 29, 2018 12:06:24 GMT
Absolutely wonderful and totally insane. Stefan Bellof's 1983 lap record smashed by almost a minute by Timo Bernhard in the 'no-limits' 919! Watch and enjoy!  |
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Post by mikael on Jun 29, 2018 12:32:57 GMT
Impressive - thank you :-)
Particularly impressive to see that it "gets" the high (7th) gear at 300+ km/h!
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Post by Jamie on Jun 29, 2018 14:44:32 GMT
Insane is right....my god, it looks like the video has been sped up!
Brilliant, this has to be near the limit of what’s achievable at the ring, can’t see this time being beaten for a while.
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Post by chrisb on Jun 29, 2018 20:36:54 GMT
oho way to go, it does make you think, why doesn't the 'ring do something like the TT style racing [ie against the clock] and when i watch the tape - it just doesn't feel real, it just looks like a game thingy - but it is awesome
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Post by Carl on Jun 29, 2018 23:54:18 GMT
Absolutely wonderful and totally insane. Stefan Bellof's 1983 lap record smashed by almost a minute by Timo Bernhard in the 'no-limits' 919! Watch and enjoy! With a top speed of 230 mph and through the Karussell at nearly 60 mph, the Porsche 919 is awesome, but the Nordschleife now is sadly practical only for this type of record attempt, a place manufacturers seeking status send their fastest cars one at a time for record attempts. In that way, the once magnificent venue is now like Bonneville or Pikes Peak and, beyond the madcap 24 Hour event, no longer used for competitive racing.
After Niki Lauda crashed and was severely burned in 1976, damnation was swift and overwhelming and less drastic solutions to the formidable dangers specific to Nurburgring dismissed. With more time and intelligent engineering changes both to the track and Grand Prix cars, one of the most legendary circuits may never have lost its Grand Prix.
On a track for which his father had great respect, I wonder if Hans Stuck Jr. ever regrets yodeling like a fool for BMW.
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Post by René on Jun 30, 2018 9:23:11 GMT
With more time and intelligent engineering changes both to the track and Grand Prix cars, one of the most legendary circuits may never have lost its Grand Prix. Maybe Carl, maybe. But given the layout of the track and the landscape it is situated in I think this was never an easy task. Don't get me wrong, it would have been wonderful if they had managed to keep the Grand Prix there. But looking at the demise of many other classic tracks, we can be happy the circuit still exists and has not been turned into a shopping mall area or in this case probably into a holiday bungalow resort. Of course they should never have given the new Grand Prix track the same name but more something like 'Der neue Ring'. What I do find extremely impressive in this video is the skill of the professional racing driver. The speed he is doing on a road course like this is just mind blowing. He must know this track like his back pocket. With the utmost respect for Timo Bernhard but I don't think many would name him if asked to name a handful of the best racing drivers in the world. And if you see on what level he is on, you know how good the top F1, Indycar and other WEC drivers are. Impressive. |
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Post by Carl on Jun 30, 2018 15:39:34 GMT
Rene,
It would never have been easy to modernize and retain the Nurburgring as relevant. Not to have tried was remarkably... underwhelming.
I agree with you about Timo Bernhard. He's as impressive as the 919, and far better looking!
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Post by René on Jun 30, 2018 16:49:31 GMT
Rene, It would never have been easy to modernize and retain the Nurburgring as relevant. Not to have tried was remarkably... underwhelming. I agree with you about Timo Bernhard. He's as impressive as the 919, and far better looking! Oh my God! Carl, a thousand posts! You're right about not to have tried being underwhelming. I believe that is also how the new track was received by many... underwhelming. |
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Post by charleselan on Jun 30, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
As impressive as this lap is, it has to be remembered that Bellof's incredible lap was achieved 35 years ago. Technology has moved on to such an extent that such as this should not be a surprise; also I would wager that the whole set up at the "Ring" was very different back in 1983, still a fearsome place but far more so back in the days of the Porsche 956/962.
I wonder how Timo Bernhard would compare with Stefan Bellof in a 956?
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Post by René on Jun 30, 2018 22:24:29 GMT
As impressive as this lap is, it has to be remembered that Bellof's incredible lap was achieved 35 years ago. Technology has moved on to such an extent that such as this should not be a surprise; also I would wager that the whole set up at the "Ring" was very different back in 1983, still a fearsome place but far more so back in the days of the Porsche 956/962. I wonder how Timo Bernhard would compare with Stefan Bellof in a 956? Bellof's 1983 lap of the Nordschleife will always be one the the great laps. The record lap with the 919 doesn't take anything away from that. Personally I like what Porsche is doing with this 919 tour and trying to break lap records like they first did at Spa (beating Lewis's 2017 pole time) and now the Ring. Of course this 919 would not be allowed to compete in a WEC race as it is tuned without limits, it even has a DRS style rear wing for more top speed and 1160bhp!  |
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Post by chrisb on Jul 1, 2018 8:37:09 GMT
apart from the beauty of the 956/962 and that fantastic era i just love the fact that of their era someone with skill is taking a car to its limit on a course that is the limit
memories are great- when you can remember them that is, people still talk of Fangio in 57 and those laps, Jimmy in 65 or 67 with those qualifying times, and Jackie in 68 in that race -
i loved Stefan's lap and adore Timo's - especially the sheer speed that the 919 reaches, real motor racing- how does it go? "let loose the dogs of horsepower?" mild interpretation of some fellow called William i think, but he may have improved
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