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Post by chrisb on May 2, 2018 19:25:42 GMT
Lucio, that seems a bit surreal, as if Ricardo is in black and white and Ayrton in colour?
that is a great photo Rene, because it feels so real
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 19:43:28 GMT
Yes Chris, quite peculiar, only Ayrton is in colour. I just liked the two talking, they were good friends and respected each other, in fact Riccardo has always said, and recently too, that Senna and Schumacher are the best drivers he met in his long career.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 20:10:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 20:16:22 GMT
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Post by René on May 3, 2018 15:54:25 GMT
Two more pictures I made of Ayrton Senna in action. I have more pictures but stopped with albums and scrapbooks after 1984 so all pictures are stored in a big cardboard box... a nightmare to find a photo but these were the first two I could find. An atmospheric shot of Senna leading Prost and Mansell in lap 1 at Spa 1991. Senna won. In the McLaren-Ford on his way to 4th. Spa Francorchamps 1993. |
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Post by chrisb on May 3, 2018 19:52:53 GMT
smooth lines, efficient simplicity and a great circuit - what wonderful sights
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Post by robmarsh on May 4, 2018 7:19:39 GMT
Seeing the picture of Senna in the MP4/8 reminded me of some thoughts I had back in 1994. I thought that maybe Senna, Ron Dennis, Ford and Marlboro made a mistake by letting Senna escape to Williams. That MP4/8 was very competitive in Senna's hands especially towards the end of the season. Mika was no slouch in it either. Had Senna stayed and Mclaren arranged with Ford to have first choice of engine in 1994 then I think the MP4/9 would have had a better chance of beating Schumacher and Benetton than the FW16.
Tragically we will never know.
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Post by René on May 4, 2018 22:08:19 GMT
I thought that maybe Senna, Ron Dennis, Ford and Marlboro made a mistake by letting Senna escape to Williams. Maybe but don't forget that at the time Senna said he wanted to drive the Williams even for free if needed. His mind was already in Didcot so it must have been virtually impossible to convince him otherwise. |
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Post by robmarsh on May 5, 2018 5:49:03 GMT
I thought that maybe Senna, Ron Dennis, Ford and Marlboro made a mistake by letting Senna escape to Williams. Maybe but don't forget that at the time Senna said he wanted to drive the Williams even for free if needed. His mind was already in Didcot so it must have been virtually impossible to convince him otherwise. That was Senna's share of the mistake. |
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Post by charleselan on May 5, 2018 11:03:29 GMT
Agreed Rob & René. The McLaren MP4/8 was supposed to be the most advanced technically of all the chassis' at the time. Obviously with Honda withdrawing they had to settle for the customer Ford engine which wasn't to the same spec' as the "works" unit of Benetton. Didn't hear McLaren winging about it though which is unlike Red Bull. Ayrton wanted a Williams too badly unfortunately. Maybe Ron should have provided a bigger plate of Chilli  . |
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Post by charleselan on Mar 21, 2020 14:44:55 GMT
Today the 21st March is the 60th birthday of Ayrton Senna. Unbelievable to think that he would have been this age had he been spared; then again I look at my own nascence and should not be surprised as time and tide wait for no man.
Like some that followed him Ayrton divided opinion but all things aside he was a truly great driver and such a compelling personality. My favourite years in following Ayrton were the Lotus period in his career, he just seemed a perfect fit for Team Lotus and I am certain Colin Chapman would have been a huge fan and done whatever it took to keep him in the team.
Going through my own photographic archive last year brought it home to me just how impressed with him I had been back in the 1980's, something that somehow had been diluted over later years. That has now been put to rights thanks to those photographs.
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Post by René on Mar 21, 2020 17:33:56 GMT
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Post by Jamie on Mar 21, 2020 18:58:04 GMT
Today the 21st March is the 60th birthday of Ayrton Senna. Unbelievable to think that he would have been this age had he been spared; then again I look at my own nascence and should not be surprised as time and tide wait for no man. Like some that followed him Ayrton divided opinion but all things aside he was a truly great driver and such a compelling personality. My favourite years in following Ayrton were the Lotus period in his career, he just seemed a perfect fit for Team Lotus and I am certain Colin Chapman would have been a huge fan and done whatever it took to keep him in the team. Going through my own photographic archive last year brought it home to me just how impressed with him I had been back in the 1980's, something that somehow had been diluted over later years. That has now been put to rights thanks to those photographs. 60 years old....my word. Your photograph of Ayrton winking is still the best picture of him I've ever seen John, what a driver and what a complex, spiritual man. |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 22, 2020 8:50:01 GMT
hear hear chaps, MotorSport are doing some tributes to this occasion which I will read when I get the chance
but Ayrton at 60, charismatic with a capital C - phenomenal talent that really could go places no others could, and so respectful of motor racing's past, his tributes to Fangio and Jimmy are tear-jerking compliments
I preferred him at Lotus too and Colin would have kept him without any doubt the charisma of the two of them would have elevated Lotus back to the very top, with that fabulous Gerard chassis and Ayrton would have been a worthy Lotus champion
I will look through my collection again and see what pictures i have of him, I have some abiding memories of him - one such was at Silverstone post practice racing his model cars - with his friends laughing and joking
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Post by robmarsh on Mar 22, 2020 9:11:03 GMT
Yep a great man and driver despite his dark moments. I have never felt the same depth of passion about Formula 1 since he died. Ayrton revived my hope after the despair following the death of Gilles. Jim Clark died just as I was getting into motor racing and at that time I didn't know much about him so the shock was not as great. I spent most of the next four years devouring every race report and book that mentioned Jim Clark and so my sadness at his death grew and grew.
I guess Ayrton's death hit me the hardest because I felt I knew him more, having watched every race live since Monaco 1988 and all the post race interviews etc.
RIP Ayrton
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