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Post by Carl on Apr 11, 2018 16:48:16 GMT
Chris Pook wisely told Bernie Ecclestone to take his demands and go away and Long Beach has been the great lost event ever since. Even the new corporate bosses have already asked about coming back. They must not have liked the answer they got judging by the pretense of contemptuous disinterest by Liberty's commercial director.
I suspect the race in Long Beach will be more exciting than the one in China.
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Post by René on Apr 11, 2018 17:23:39 GMT
Carl, I agree Long Beach is a lost treasure to Formula One. One of the best street courses and I am looking forward to this weekends Indycar race. This is a magazine spread I have hanging on a wall in my 'man cave'.  |
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Post by charleselan on Apr 11, 2018 17:44:46 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember  . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. |
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Post by René on Apr 11, 2018 17:50:21 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. Don't forget Gilles Villenoof!  Maybe Keke had one smoke too many that day... |
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Post by René on Apr 11, 2018 17:56:15 GMT
Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. Yes, was it 1981, a dual between Pironi in the Ferrari and Andretti in the Alfa? I remember Didier pulling away on the straight every time with that enormous power from the Ferrari turbo and Mario getting closer in the corners. Mario passed him eventually if I remember correctly. |
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Post by chrisb on Apr 11, 2018 21:03:50 GMT
Carl, Long Beach was simply a great circuit - one of my favourite photos is of Mario in the 78 and Jones with his drooping wings - great memories, Patrese on pole, was it Jan qualifying 4th another year? Gilles with those ridiculous rear wing - a real drivers circuit that was so entertaining and so terribly missed
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Post by chrisb on Apr 11, 2018 21:04:51 GMT
i don't know it was drawing a line through the last sentence? but stet
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Post by René on Apr 11, 2018 21:33:19 GMT
Here it is, Pironi vs Andretti.  |
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Post by charleselan on Apr 11, 2018 22:05:56 GMT
Carl, Long Beach was simply a great circuit - one of my favourite photos is of Mario in the 78 and Jones with his drooping wings - great memories, Patrese on pole, was it Jan qualifying 4th another year? Gilles with those ridiculous rear wing - a real drivers circuit that was so entertaining and so terribly missed
Yes Chris, Riccardo in the orange & white Arrows A4 sponsored by Ceramica Pagnosin (excuse spelling but am writing off the top of my head); and Jan in the bright yellow ATS which promised so much. JC |
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Post by Carl on Apr 12, 2018 1:25:33 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. The only time I spoke directly to David Hobbs was at Road America in 1995, a great year for CART and Jacques Villeneuve in particular. My cousin and I were watching practice on Saturday at the short straight between Turns 7 and 8 when a familiar voice caught my attention, David Hobbs passing by with his close friend, former driver and brewery heir Augie Pabst. They had both driven in that great 1964 Road America 500 mile race. I posted a video sometime ago. I gently pulled on his shirt sleeve and asked whether he still worked alongside Paul Page in the broadcast booth. He said yes, on occasion (which I knew), and bent over with laughter when I suggested he should teach Paul Page how to say the Indy winner's name, which he'd been pronouncing "Vill eh neff". "I know!" Hobbs said in agreement. He clearly did so, because a few weeks later, Paul Page addressed the pronunciation in a somewhat defensive tone. Paul Page was pretty good overall, but was one of those announcers who liked to hype the drama. He always anticipated that Al Unser Jr. was about to move toward the front from wherever he was behind the leaders, which almost never happened.  There's an article appearing today in Motor Sport about a RAC interview with David Hobbs, no doubt mainly about his forthcoming autobiography. Cheers, Carl |
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Post by Carl on Apr 12, 2018 1:32:25 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. Don't forget Gilles Villenoof! Maybe Keke had one smoke too many that day... Rene, Reading the great comments on this thread a second time, I just realized the American announcer must have been the often beleaguered Paul Page (see my comment just above)! It's a small world! Cheers, Carl |
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Post by chrisb on Apr 12, 2018 4:54:38 GMT
Carl, I do echo that sentiment- 1995 was for me the last 'great' year in Indy, I know as I was the extremely fortunate individual who was at Indianapolis that year to watch Jacques win, following a bizzare re-start, that is.
as a spectacle it was astonishing - the sheer speed and colour, amazing and very tiring [ok bud helped but]
i was with a bunch of Aussies who after the race heading towards the coaches started putting their watches in their pockets - anticipating the hundreds of thousands getting into a mass brawl, so there'e me thinking - the Aussies are bigger than me I know, i'll try and hide behind them, only to find that the exits were the most politest, well-mannered group of people i have ever encountered leaving a circuit anywhere in the world, needless to say the Aussies weren't happy - but as a contrast trying to leave Brands after the Grand Prix, possibly 1980, i had to drive through a hedge to get out of the car park after 5 hours of traffic queues- but that impression of sheer good manners leaving Indy has never left me and will always remain a tribute to motor racing fans at their finest
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Post by robmarsh on Apr 12, 2018 6:59:10 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. Yep Keke took out Tambay who was leading in the Ferrari. I have held that against him ever since. DSJ referred to him as"driving like a rock ape". |
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Post by charleselan on Apr 12, 2018 17:11:01 GMT
Yes!! I always looked forward to the Long Beach GP. In those far off days I used to listen to the live commentary on US Forces Radio, just like listening to the old Radio Luxembourg, if you are old enough you will remember . One of the delights was the incredible pronunciations of the drivers names by the American commentator (Nelson Peekay & Stefan Joe Hans Sen spring to mind). I also remember 1983 when Keke appeared to have taken his brain out and was locking up and spinning everywhere. Great circuit and that blast down the Shoreline Drive incredible times. Yep Keke took out Tambay who was leading in the Ferrari. I have held that against him ever since. DSJ referred to him as"driving like a rock ape". Rob, In all fairness to Keke I think he had a brake imbalance or something that was known back then as "grabbing brakes". He wasn't one for making excuses however and made no comment about his problems afterwards, maybe he should have done. It was tough on Patrick Tambay, a very smooth and elegant driver who I liked a great deal. JC |
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Post by René on Apr 12, 2018 20:07:32 GMT
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