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Post by René on Apr 5, 2018 13:14:06 GMT
Will Dovi win again or can Marquez hit back? Or can Zarco finally brake the spell and win his first Grand Prix?
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Post by charleselan on Apr 5, 2018 14:30:08 GMT
Even though I have family interest in this class I am rooting for Johann Zarco as it would be very well deserved and prove that an independent team can win at the highest level, something not remotely possible in four wheel racing.
If not then it has to be Andrea, or how about Jorge which would finally shut up his non fans!
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Post by René on Apr 5, 2018 18:02:52 GMT
Even though I have family interest in this class I am rooting for Johann Zarco as it would be very well deserved and prove that an independent team can win at the highest level, something not remotely possible in four wheel racing. If not then it has to be Andrea, or how about Jorge which would finally shut up his non fans! Yes of course. Don't know why I didn't put Johann in the poll list this time  Let's hope it's a good sign and he does win... and a good points finish for Scott!  |
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Post by Jamie on Apr 5, 2018 18:15:15 GMT
I think Marc will be in with an excellent chance but in reality in could be any one of about eight riders......isn’t that a wonderful thing.
I’d like to see Rossi win ideally, if only to silence all the Rossi haters on the MS forum 😁
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Post by chrisb on Apr 7, 2018 6:10:35 GMT
about to watch yesterday's practice - ah, really must get on, but it is looking like a Honda feast - so i am going for Cal, although would love to see Dani do it, but i suspect Marc will,
outside bet - Maverick,
would love to see Scott actually be able to use his immense talent and bear in mind how close he ran and rattled Marc in Moto2, and really mix it up the front, hope so,
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Post by chrisb on Apr 8, 2018 6:27:18 GMT
what a spectacle, brilliant - brave and brutal, tears - cheers and phews - what qualifying is all about, in all 3 categories- can't wait for the race
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Post by charleselan on Apr 8, 2018 9:27:11 GMT
How was that for some spectacle! Unbelievable MotoGP qualification with so many variables. The BT Sport commentary team were wetting themselves over Marquez following Free Practice 4 and according to them no one was going to get near him, well he got it wrong and so did they.
I try not to go on about Scott as I don't think it would be right for me to do so, however he was going really well in FP4 and it was as much as same commentary team could do to mention his performance, if it had been any of the other British riders they would have been punching the table. He wasn't quite so quick in Q2 but not bad, and afterwards explained his problem with the tyres in the rapidly changing conditions, his extra body weight was causing the tyres to overheat.
Scott is a big lad and his weight is the issue, he trains very hard and is very fit, but a big physical frame cannot be overcome in this age where riders are having to do stupidly unnatural things to get their weight down.
There is something wrong somewhere in all forms of motor sport where the competitor has to loose so much body weight to become competitive. Apparently they now train to loose weight and avoid muscle build which is completely alien to anything that applies in other sports. It it is time the the governing authorities stepped in here and put a stop to this stupidity; obviously you cannot legislate about some things but they can make it fairer to all, and also prevent competitors from having to loose an unnatural amount of body weight.
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Post by Jamie on Apr 8, 2018 21:59:04 GMT
Superb ride from Crutchlow, a measured performance making sure he was in the hunt and then unleashing his pace to take the win...fantastic. I was torn at the end though as I’d like to see Zarco win, it will come soon I hope.
And Marquez.....I’m a great admirer but this was not good. He needs to calm down a bit and he’s acting as if he’s the only one who matters out there. It’s disrespectful and he needs to reign that in a bit, he’s the fastest out there and doesn’t need the antics he showed today (and previously). The war of words with Rossi will reignite now and Vale will probably over-react, as is his want, it will get ugly. We’ll see but I’d hate for a similar scenario to the previous troubles between these two to erupt.
And, although not a classic, it was 10 times more entertaining than the F1 GP.
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Post by Carl on Apr 9, 2018 0:28:50 GMT
This discussion is the one I'd rather be part of! It's the $210 for a basic annual subscription to the pay service that rankles. MotoGP was for years shown on a delayed basis on my cable system, but the former channel has surrendered to cheap content. I'm tempted to buy my own Honda RC 213V and form a team.
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Post by Carl on Apr 9, 2018 0:31:46 GMT
about to watch yesterday's practice - ah, really must get on, but it is looking like a Honda feast - so i am going for Cal, although would love to see Dani do it, but i suspect Marc will, outside bet - Maverick, would love to see Scott actually be able to use his immense talent and bear in mind how close he ran and rattled Marc in Moto2, and really mix it up the front, hope so, Chris, Well done! You predicted the race winner! |
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Post by chrisb on Apr 9, 2018 3:54:54 GMT
it is a long time since my own adrenalin was pumping for a race, the other 'race' with the the very fast buses hardly stirred the pulse but this!! what planet was Marquez on? I was never a fan of his in the lower formulee for what I perceived as his petulance and when Scott and he clashed in Moto2 i enjoyed that, but this was a farce from qualifying onwards, a very fast farce and wow is that boy quick, again not my style, i always liked smoother styles but can he ride, he sure can, in a way it reminds me of Senna, this awesome talent marred by brutal thinking, I am coming through and I am above reproach, well you weren't and as others say I fear the Rossi war of words re-igniting here, but also others and if I was Dani I would be very upset let alone Aprilla
this was one incredible meeting and one that will be talked of for many years, Cal drove a superb race, can't say I enjoyed his comments afterwards but well ridden Cal, and like you Jamie I wanted Zarco or Rins to do it and they rode brilliantly, as did Jack, so much happened it was all a bit to much to take in at times, great to see Scott doing well at times and really do hope for him this year,
then there was a superb Moto2 race, what happened to Sam and Danny? I'm not sure and Moto3 was so exciting - brilliant
My other downsides as an official grumpy old man, was the admiration bordering on nausea by the MotoGP commentary team on Marquez, some great rides elsewhere, I thought Mav was brilliant and all we heard was how great Marquez was.
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Post by charleselan on Apr 9, 2018 12:32:21 GMT
Although some excellent racing in all three classes, as one has come to expect, the whole weekend was let down by some truly appalling administrative decisions by the authorities which at times made F1 look well run.
It began with an outrageous manoeuvre pulled in free practice by a Moto3 rider who deliberately ran into and knocked off his machine another rider in what was determined as retaliation for another incident. The aggressor also fell from his machine in the contretemps, and unbelievably was served no penalty what so ever. Everyone watching was appalled at the move and even more so at the woeful lack of action taken by the governing body.
This was then followed by the farcical beginning to the main MotoGP race where all laid down and agreed rulings were completely overruled and discarded. This act was a disgrace and no more so for it totally disadvantaged one rider and team who had made the correct call with tyres from the outset. Jack Miller and Pramac had made the call to run slicks, but after the riders did their sighting lap they all realised that the wet tyres they had initially opted for were the wrong choice and came into the pits to change. The rules here are that all those that enter the pits after the sighting lap to make a changes have to start from the pit lane after the grid has set off.
Other riders had also been deprived of a starting position following this, and if the rules had been adhered to would have held priority. The organisers/authorities then decided that they would invent a new rule on the spot to placate Miller & Pramac and had the rest of the grid form up 70 metres back from pole position, absolutely laughable.
We then had the sight of Marquez stall his bike on the grid and immediately attempt to bump start the machine in which he succeeded, to then promptly ride back to the grid against the direction of the track. Both moves were illegal as the ruling is that if a bike stalls it is immediately removed from the grid and taken to the pits; and that riding against the direction of the grid is completely illegal, should have been black flagged not given a ride through.
Following his "ride through" penalty we had the sight of Marquez riding like a complete idiot with total disregard for the others on the track, and if truth be told just as he had in Moto2 some years back. The move he attempted on Aleix was a disgrace, and to just make him give a place back following that was he poorest decision I have seen in years, as he lost so little by that. The move on Rossi of course was the icing on the cake and truly despicable. Never in over 50 years of watching Grand Prix motor cycle racing have I seen such an awful performance, made worse by the fact it was a four time MotoGP champion.
To penalise Marquez 30 seconds after the race for that ride is a nonsense, he should be suspended for at least two races, the charge would be "reckless endangerment of fellow competitors". As Neil Hodgson mentioned in the BT Sport commentary Marquez believes that he can get away with anything, to quote Neil, "he can get away with riding over the limit, he can get away with multiple crashes without injury, and thinks he can get away with stunts like he has pulled today".
On the positive side a good win for Crutchlow, however that does not change my opinion of him sadly. A very sensible and controlled ride by Johann Zarco, his day will come and soon. Also Alex Rins was impressive and now looks clearly the best Suzuki rider. Jack Miller also deserves credit as the best, by far, Ducati rider, a good brave and solid ride.
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Post by René on Apr 9, 2018 14:04:54 GMT
I was not able to see the race live so I watched a recap this morning. Some exciting racing but I couldn't believe what Marquez was doing! Another case of a genius racer with the occasional red mist moment!
Zarco's time will come, very soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 8:43:17 GMT
Although some excellent racing in all three classes, as one has come to expect, the whole weekend was let down by some truly appalling administrative decisions by the authorities which at times made F1 look well run. It began with an outrageous manoeuvre pulled in free practice by a Moto3 rider who deliberately ran into and knocked off his machine another rider in what was determined as retaliation for another incident. The aggressor also fell from his machine in the contretemps, and unbelievably was served no penalty what so ever. Everyone watching was appalled at the move and even more so at the woeful lack of action taken by the governing body. This was then followed by the farcical beginning to the main MotoGP race where all laid down and agreed rulings were completely overruled and discarded. This act was a disgrace and no more so for it totally disadvantaged one rider and team who had made the correct call with tyres from the outset. Jack Miller and Pramac had made the call to run slicks, but after the riders did their sighting lap they all realised that the wet tyres they had initially opted for were the wrong choice and came into the pits to change. The rules here are that all those that enter the pits after the sighting lap to make a changes have to start from the pit lane after the grid has set off. Other riders had also been deprived of a starting position following this, and if the rules had been adhered to would have held priority. The organisers/authorities then decided that they would invent a new rule on the spot to placate Miller & Pramac and had the rest of the grid form up 70 metres back from pole position, absolutely laughable. We then had the sight of Marquez stall his bike on the grid and immediately attempt to bump start the machine in which he succeeded, to then promptly ride back to the grid against the direction of the track. Both moves were illegal as the ruling is that if a bike stalls it is immediately removed from the grid and taken to the pits; and that riding against the direction of the grid is completely illegal, should have been black flagged not given a ride through. Following his "ride through" penalty we had the sight of Marquez riding like a complete idiot with total disregard for the others on the track, and if truth be told just as he had in Moto2 some years back. The move he attempted on Aleix was a disgrace, and to just make him give a place back following that was he poorest decision I have seen in years, as he lost so little by that. The move on Rossi of course was the icing on the cake and truly despicable. Never in over 50 years of watching Grand Prix motor cycle racing have I seen such an awful performance, made worse by the fact it was a four time MotoGP champion. To penalise Marquez 30 seconds after the race for that ride is a nonsense, he should be suspended for at least two races, the charge would be "reckless endangerment of fellow competitors". As Neil Hodgson mentioned in the BT Sport commentary Marquez believes that he can get away with anything, to quote Neil, "he can get away with riding over the limit, he can get away with multiple crashes without injury, and thinks he can get away with stunts like he has pulled today". On the positive side a good win for Crutchlow, however that does not change my opinion of him sadly. A very sensible and controlled ride by Johann Zarco, his day will come and soon. Also Alex Rins was impressive and now looks clearly the best Suzuki rider. Jack Miller also deserves credit as the best, by far, Ducati rider, a good brave and solid ride. Hi Charles, I've only seen highlights of the MotoGP race, but it seems that Marquez was completely out of control. It seems that he has no fear of any consequence to himself, and (perhaps) because of that has no concern for consequence to his competitors. Throughout his career we've seen him put moves on his competitors that have caused them to crash, or come close to it. In this race, he flouted so many rules and showed contempt for the race organisers and his competitors. In my view there needs to be some serious sanction on him, and some kind of mentoring, to protect his competitors, and him. |
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Post by René on Apr 12, 2018 8:55:38 GMT
Hi Jim, welcome to the forum! Great to have you on board!  |
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Let's hope it's a good sign and he does win... and a good points finish for Scott! 
