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Post by René on Mar 5, 2018 13:21:37 GMT
A friend of my fathers, who often came in my home during my childhood, participated in a couple of Formula Vee races at the Nürburgring in the late 60's - early 70's. In a conversation I overheard (at the coffee table), and which impressed me greatly, he admitted that he found it hard to remember all those turns of the Nürburgring. (And it should be mentioned that this guy was a several times national champion - a very good amateur racer). And this was at the moderate speed of a Formula Vee. Imagine how it must be in a Formula One car, probably at double the speed (of a Formula Vee) almost everywhere ... I wonder if Juan Manuel Fangio, Jackie Stewart, and Niki Lauda ever had any problems remembering all the turns of 'The Ring' - and in the correct order! Maybe not at all ... (I have never read anything that suggested such problems.) I guess it wouldn't "work" to be in doubt at 300 km/h (180 mph) ... Mikael, I drove (not raced!) the Ring ones with a friend in his old BMW 3 series a long time ago. We were very slow but that didn't matter, we had a lot of fun and sometimes completely frightened when a Porsche 911 passed us at full speed! It is amazing to realize they actually raced Grand Prix cars there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 20:04:24 GMT
Wow Lucio, you have been busy!  Slow Sunday... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 20:06:05 GMT
A friend of my fathers, who often came in my home during my childhood, participated in a couple of Formula Vee races at the Nürburgring in the late 60's - early 70's. In a conversation I overheard (at the coffee table), and which impressed me greatly, he admitted that he found it hard to remember all those turns of the Nürburgring. (And it should be mentioned that this guy was a several times national champion - a very good amateur racer). And this was at the moderate speed of a Formula Vee. Imagine how it must be in a Formula One car, probably at double the speed (of a Formula Vee) almost everywhere ... I wonder if Juan Manuel Fangio, Jackie Stewart, and Niki Lauda ever had any problems remembering all the turns of 'The Ring' - and in the correct order! Maybe not at all ... (I have never read anything that suggested such problems.) I guess it wouldn't "work" to be in doubt at 300 km/h (180 mph) ... Mikael, pretty sure those drivers knew the track by heart, metre per metre. |
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Post by Carl on Mar 5, 2018 22:57:00 GMT
A friend of my fathers, who often came in my home during my childhood, participated in a couple of Formula Vee races at the Nürburgring in the late 60's - early 70's. In a conversation I overheard (at the coffee table), and which impressed me greatly, he admitted that he found it hard to remember all those turns of the Nürburgring. (And it should be mentioned that this guy was a several times national champion - a very good amateur racer). And this was at the moderate speed of a Formula Vee. Imagine how it must be in a Formula One car, probably at double the speed (of a Formula Vee) almost everywhere ... I wonder if Juan Manuel Fangio, Jackie Stewart, and Niki Lauda ever had any problems remembering all the turns of 'The Ring' - and in the correct order! Maybe not at all ... (I have never read anything that suggested such problems.) I guess it wouldn't "work" to be in doubt at 300 km/h (180 mph) ... Mikael, pretty sure those drivers knew the track by heart, metre per metre. Lucio, In his address to students at the Cambridge Union (which you posted), Jackie Stewart, in describing what he called mind management and his native intelligence despite severe dyslexia, mentioned that he knew every corner, every braking point and every gear change around the Nurburgring, certainly true among those who raced there frequently. According to BMW advertisements, Hans Stuck Junior could drive it at competitive speeds while yodeling!  Cheers, Carl |
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Post by chrisb on Mar 6, 2018 5:44:01 GMT
guys these are just fantastic photos - thank you
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 18:59:35 GMT
Döttinger Höhe 1000 Kilometres 1971 ![]()  |
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Post by chrisb on Apr 15, 2018 19:54:36 GMT
aw Lucio, - magnifico - forza forza -
so is that Brian in second?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 20:03:39 GMT
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Post by charleselan on Apr 15, 2018 22:01:33 GMT
Derek Bell stood in for Brian Redman who had sustained some serious burns when he crashed in the Targa Florio which kept him out of action for several months. Jack Oliver who was down to partner Pedro was stood down mid race as Seppi's car had broken its chassis. neither Bell nor Oliver drove that day.
The winners were two of the greatest allrounders Vic Elford and Gerard Larrousse, both were superb rally drivers and sports car drivers and also some F1; Vic more successful than Gerard, although Larrousse ran his own team in later years'
I don't think Brian Redman was too enamoured with the Porsche 908/3 with its very far forward driving position and the fact that there was nothing bar a few tubes and a bit of fibreglass over his legs,
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Post by chrisb on Apr 16, 2018 4:45:37 GMT
as ever, totally impressed
Vic, is well known and very highly respected I feel, Gerard who deserves in my humble opinion far more recognition less so, not sure why.
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Post by charleselan on Apr 16, 2018 16:05:15 GMT
as ever, totally impressed Vic, is well known and very highly respected I feel, Gerard who deserves in my humble opinion far more recognition less so, not sure why. Chris, 70% me and the help of an excellent book which reviewed the 1971 season which filled in some details that were a bit sketchy. Gerard Larrousse was a hugely underrated allrounder, well at least he appears to be in the English publications. He and Vic Elford were very well paired in 1971 in the Martini Porsche's, and he later went on to partner Pesca in the works Matra sports prototypes, winning Le Mans on the way; quality driver. JC |
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