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Post by charleselan on Jan 19, 2018 22:34:29 GMT
Earlier today I came across the attached image which simply stood out as I had not seen it previously. The imagery of this mighty be-winged machine actually flying is astonishing, and look how balanced it appears.
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Post by Carl on Jan 19, 2018 23:21:17 GMT
Wonderful photo! The superb balance must be a credit to the thorough set-up by team and drivers Phil Hill and Mike Spence. When I saw the subject, I thought first of Jim Hall's accident in the final Can-Am race of 1968 at Las Vegas that signaled the effective end of his driving career. I have never forgotten my astonishment when I first saw this image of the Chaparral 2G in flight over the McLaren of Lothar Motschenbacher, talented journeyman and perennial number 11, who apparently suddenly slowed just as Jim Hall fast approached. Attachment Deleted
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Post by chrisb on Jan 20, 2018 5:07:04 GMT
JC, what brilliance a wonderfully evocative photo - of a car I do wish I had seen at Brands [1967] , but sadly the grumpy brother didn't want to go
Carl, that is seriously scary - even now i get a shiver looking at that - wow
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Post by René on Jan 20, 2018 13:17:12 GMT
Beautiful photo JC. Any idea where this was made? It's the same car that ran at Le Mans I think. Carl, that is a very scary crash, jeeezzz!
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Post by charleselan on Jan 20, 2018 16:23:02 GMT
Must be the Nurburgring 1000Kms 1967; can't think of another circuit where the cars became airborne, unless we think of Caldwell Park, but there were not anything bigger than F3 back in the day at that venue.
The Jim Hall crash is seriously scary and ended the racing career of a really good driver; I liked Jim as a driver as well as an innovator/designer. I believe that those Can Am cars of that period were quite susceptible to getting air under them. John Surtees big accident was as a result of such a phenomena, and I have a feeling that Denny Hulme also had a similar thing happen to him as well, but luckily without serious injury. Carl??
That Chaparral 2F image is stunning isn't it, the result of a really good photographer, and no luck involved, just quality workmanship.
Much later edit: Can't think how that "l" got into Cadwell....tut; tut!
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Post by Carl on Jan 20, 2018 16:59:32 GMT
John Charles,
I'm sure the 2F was photographed at the Nurburgring 1000kms, as you say. The popular angle of the photograph and the trees both are good evidence.
And you're right also about Can-Am cars being susceptible to dramatic flight. Several went up and over, including Denis Hulme, at a dangerous crest along the fastest straight at St. Jovite in Canada. Brian Redman also went up and over, I believe in the later Can-Am series of converted Formula 5000 cars, landing upside down and losing much of his helmet to abrasion as his momentum continued.
It's possible Robin Herd and other designers had aviation ambitions before focusing on cars.
Staying grounded, Carl
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Post by chrisb on Jan 21, 2018 9:14:23 GMT
JC, tragically Cadwell is a circuit I haven't been to, keep meaning to get to the BSB but always seem to be away, must try harder
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