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Post by charleselan on Dec 7, 2019 14:44:59 GMT
Last evening having looked through numerous YouTube films on my TV I came across a brilliant full coverage in colour of the 1975 Monaco GP, I have probably seen it previously on the computer and may even have it archived. The film from the French TV coverage of the time is outstanding, no commentary (like many of the German GP's that ere posted on the same platform a few years ago but now deleted) only the trackside commentary can be heard along with the cars of course. This makes for a wonderful experience, almost as if one were at the race and praise be no David Croft or any other inane fool to ruin ones pleasure.
Watching the race again just shows what is missing today, the cars on the wet track were sliding around and one could clearly see how were the real talent in those days. Niki after a few hairy slides on the first two laps looked assured at the front, and the sound of that Flat 12 in the 312T was sublime. It has to be said that it was often remarked back in those times that a 12 cylinder car was always better to drive in the wet slippery conditions due to having a smoother more linear power delivery.
What else can be said about Ronnie other than he was the absolute best at that time, driving that old Lotus 72 then in its 6 season, overweight not suited to the Goodyear tyres that were designed for the Ferrari and McLaren's. An absolute genius at work, Monaco was a playground for Ronnie much as it was for that other great Stirling Moss whose careers were so very similar in so many ways.
Tom Pryce was also outstanding in the early stages in the beautiful Shadow DN5 staying with Niki & Ronnie with ease, although he was a little more lurid with his slides and did not seem to have the smoothness of power application that Ronnie had.
What can one say about JP Jarier, a brilliant start from fourth on the grid to slot in behind Lauda only to bin it on the first lap, such a shame he squandered his talent on bravado.
One final thought it seems almost surreal that the drivers making up the tail of the field were Jackie Ickx (in the second Lotus); Carlos Reutemann; John Watson; Mark Donohue and Alan Jones; just think about that for one minute.
If you haven't seen it before enjoy............
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Post by charleselan on Dec 7, 2019 17:22:29 GMT
I am compelled to add this following film clip from the 1962 Monaco GP, when you view it you will see why.
A truly astonishing 6+ minutes of film that apparently is part of a German DVD of the 1962 season, I will leave you to draw your own conclusions others than the dire voice over that is painful to the ear and factually error prone.
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Post by Carl on Dec 7, 2019 17:30:57 GMT
John Charles, This great film has so many wonderful elements! I love it just standing at the counter during my morning laptop ritual, but will settle more comfortably later at my desktop to fully enjoy it. Poor Jarier was desperate to lead immediately, raising his fist with little cause at Lauda at the first left hand sweeper after St. Devote.
I enjoyed the almost twenty minutes of preliminaries which gave, as you said, the familiar sense of being there. The beautifully held powerslides by Niki Lauda, Ronnie Peterson and Tom Pryce in the early laps demonstrate car control at a genius level. They were as much having fun as racing!
Also notable are the boats in the harbor, small boats far outnumbering the massive phallic symbols crowded starboard to larboard today.
Monte Carlo was still beautiful in 1975, before the wave of nearly identical, ugly and balconied, rectangular monoliths had entirely descended. Those were the days, my friend. -Carl |
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Post by Carl on Dec 7, 2019 22:00:36 GMT
I am compelled to add this following film clip from the 1962 Monaco GP, when you view it you will see why. A truly astonishing 6+ minutes of film that apparently is part of a German DVD of the 1962 season, I will leave you to draw your own conclusions others than the dire voice over that is painful to the ear and factually error prone. John Charles, The narrator sounds like a somber Burl Ives doing a promotional voice-over either for a rival manufacturer to Ferrari or one of Phil Hill's few enemies. A great film with strange added sounds and bizarre errors.
Do you suppose the writers meant to misidentify Bruce McLaren as Jack Brabham instead of the phantom driver Jack Bartrum?
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Post by Carl on Dec 7, 2019 22:02:09 GMT
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Post by mikael on Dec 8, 2019 4:21:02 GMT
Great films, both of them. Yes, the quality of the '62 footage is outstandingly good.
Interesting to notice the lampposts and mooring bollards in 1962. At that time it was not thought, apparently, that such freely standing structures would constitute any real real danger.
In this connection, I came to think about the story of the 1986 Karting World Championship, which was held in Jacksonville, Florida. The European drivers boycotted the event, on the ground that they found the track too dangerous and unsuitable for racing. The problem, as I understand it, was a number of relatively high curbs, as shown in the photo from the actual (boycotted) event. (The international governing body, CIK-FIA, insisted that the track was OK, and those drivers who refused to race - which were most of the Europeans - would have their license suspended for half a year!)
How the way of thinking had changed during the intermediate 25 (approximately) years!
High curbs at the venue for the 1986 Karting World Championship in Florida.
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Post by René on Dec 8, 2019 14:21:12 GMT
Fantastic footage! I casted the entire 75 race to my tv, what a joy!
The 1962 film is special despite the weird commentary. The actual footage is wonderful as you don't see this quality very often from those years. Great stuff.
And how small those early 60s cars were and as Mikael pointed out, the sense of danger and let alone safety was very different (or absent) back then.
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Post by charleselan on Dec 8, 2019 15:04:29 GMT
The remarkable 1962 footage of the Monaco GP was not as i originally mentioned part of a review of the whole season but a far more worldly documentary about the voyages of a clipper sail boat. The amazing quality was due to it being shot in 70mm which is actually cinematic quality and seldom used for sporting events or anything else for that matter. I believe it was then rendered into 4K digital quality for modern day distribution.
An excellent addition thanks to Carl in his reply, and I am amazed that the voice over is that of Burl Ives, a big man who made some hugely for the time amusing recordings during the 1950/60's. Sadly he seemed so flat and uninteresting in this film, should have given it to Peter Ustinov.
Below is a translation of the German Amazon sites resumé of the film:-
FLYING CLIPPER is a monumental documentary about the adventures of a Swedish sailboat that makes a trip to the Mediterranean in the early sixties. The Torn leads to the dream destinations of the old world: From the Cote D'Azur, over the Greek islands, up to the pyramids of Egypt. Shot in 1962 with specially designed 70mm cameras, FLYING CLIPPER is the first German film to be produced in this high-resolution large-screen format. The spectacular footage of the Formula One race in Monaco or on board the aircraft carrier USS Shangri-La is a technical masterpiece and still provide a breathtaking visual experience today. The best cinematographers of the era, including Heinz Holscher (The Oil Prince), Siegfried Hold (Old Shatter Hand), Klaus Konig (To sweetheart) and Tony Brown (The wild geese come) were involved in FLYING CLIPPER. It tells the chronicle of the exciting journey of Hans Clarin (Master Eder and his Pumuckl). Now this technical highlight of the cinema is available for home entertainment for the first time.
Scanned in 4K from the original cinema copy and high-quality digitally restored, FLYING CLIPPER now has the same visual brilliance in home cinema as it once did on the big screen. In addition to the classic original sound, a completely new sound design was created. Extensive bonus material for the creation of FLYING CLIPPER and the history of the 70mm film completes this outstanding DVD edition.
Bonus material:
Interviews on the history and restoration of the film; trailer; Poster photos from 1962;
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