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Post by René on Dec 30, 2017 1:07:00 GMT
Luigi Chinetti drove more than 23 hours in the 1949 edition he won, the first for a Ferrari. Louis Rosier drove for all but two laps the following year, when he won with his son. That is amazing. Driving that long without making mistakes and winning is some feat! Was Chinetti still Italian when he won for Ferrari or was he already an American? And I assume Rosier left the last two laps to his son?
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Post by Carl on Dec 30, 2017 2:17:01 GMT
Driving all day and arriving at your destination too exhausted to enjoy anything is an American characteristic, so Luigi Chinetti had at least an affinity for American foolishness at the time.
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Post by robmarsh on Dec 30, 2017 7:35:08 GMT
Some superb comments here as per usual-thanks gentlemen. I think I will now order the DVD as enough has been said by JC to make it worth while. I am currently going through a bit of a resurgence in my interest of 1950s motor racing, reading a book on bill vukovich and just to complete a 1/20 Alfa 159. Next kit on the block is the 1957 British GP Ferrari 801 and I shall build it in honour of Mike Hawthorn. This is the short nosed version of the car that featured on the cover of "Mon Ami Mate", an excellent book which I may have to read again shortly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 8:52:32 GMT
Luigi Chinetti drove more than 23 hours in the 1949 edition he won, the first for a Ferrari. Louis Rosier drove for all but two laps the following year, when he won with his son. That is amazing. Driving that long without making mistakes and winning is some feat! Was Chinetti still Italian when he won for Ferrari or was he already an American? And I assume Rosier left the last two laps to his son? Rene, I don't know when Chinetti Sr became naturalized. I know Andretti became American in 1964, at 24, but he never left the Italian citizenship. Pritchard in his "Ferrari, the men from Maranello", says that Chinetti left only twenty minutes to his co-driver. I really don't have a way to prove whether they really drove that long, but Chinetti had already won there twice before and Rosier father was the actual driver, so even if by modern standards it may sound a bit preposterous, there may be a grain of truth in all that.
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Post by René on Dec 30, 2017 12:11:38 GMT
I looked it up and Chinetti moved to the States after the war and became American in 1946. His 1949 victory was his third Le Mans victory (!) and indeed Ferrari's first, although this was not a works entry. Luigi Chinetti of course became the American Ferrari importer and founder of the North American Racing Team (NART). Chinetti leaving the pits in his Ferrari 166 MM Barchetta, Le Mans 1949
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Post by charleselan on Dec 30, 2017 14:13:33 GMT
Some superb comments here as per usual-thanks gentlemen. I think I will now order the DVD as enough has been said by JC to make it worth while. I am currently going through a bit of a resurgence in my interest of 1950s motor racing, reading a book on bill vukovich and just to complete a 1/20 Alfa 159. Next kit on the block is the 1957 British GP Ferrari 801 and I shall build it in honour of Mike Hawthorn. This is the short nosed version of the car that featured on the cover of "Mon Ami Mate", an excellent book which I may have to read again shortly. Rob, Don't get me wrong, the film is well worth getting, especially for the amazing footage and some of the "interview" material. However the anecdotal "talking heads" bits are something I don't like, firstly because that particular genre is not to my taste, and secondly all of it has been published ad infinitum previously. I bought my copy of "Mon Ami Mate" soon after it was released and it is also signed by Chris Nixon, it is a very good read. The Ferrari 801 was a bit of a favourite of mine, ever since I saw it in one of my old books as a boy. It should make a wonderful model and a super tribute to Mike Hawthorne. 1/20th scale? JC
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Post by charleselan on Dec 31, 2017 16:54:13 GMT
Further to all this. Last evening on the Freeview/Sat provider the "Yesterday" channel were showing several re-runs of some recent motor sport films that had been aired on the BBC over the past 10 years; John Surtees and the 1955 Le Mans; also one dedicated to Mike Hawthorne. A lot of the material in this film was included in the "Race to Immortality" particularly some of the "taking heads" stuff from Doug Nye and some excellent comments from Tony Brooks.
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Post by René on Jan 28, 2018 11:03:01 GMT
I watched the film last night and really enjoyed it. The quality of some of the colour footage is so good it really draws you in and this combined with the comments from the driver's wifes and girlsfriends just creates an amazing time frame. What also stood out was the incridible danger not only the drivers but also the public was exposed to. Probably because it was so short after the war but the whole concept of danger was looked at in a very different way as we do today. And one more image that also caught my attention was a shot at the end of the movie of the 1958 Moroccon Grand Prix in Casablanca where the cars race under a pedestrian bridge with Martini advertising, the Martini name also translated to Arabic. It makes you realize how much the world has changed in a handful of decades; alcohol advertising in an Arabic country! Here is a picture of that bridge with Martini signs but in the movie it is even more striking as it is in full colour.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 28, 2018 14:36:16 GMT
Mine copy of Race to Immortality arrived a couple of days ago. I shall watch this week.
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Post by René on Jan 29, 2018 11:59:35 GMT
One final thing I found it very strange that they had clips of Enzo Ferrari speaking in his native Italian, yet no translation in English what so ever; very poor. Fortunately the Dutch subtitles worked just fine. But it is very poor indeed if that was not the case with the English subtitles.
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Post by robmarsh on Jan 30, 2018 7:05:00 GMT
Viewed my copy on Sunday and enjoyed every minute of it. No problems with subtitles re Enzo. Some of the pics were superb and the footage of the cars at rest was so clear it was like being there. Very glad you persuaded me to get it Charles. Now for the 312B DVD if possible.
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