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Post by chrisb on Sept 23, 2024 9:46:14 GMT
well said Mikael, I had zero interest in this race I did watch the truncated highlights and Williams new boy looks impressive. aside from that it is a relief to move on from this circuit
talking of moving on I for some reason didn't watch the Max swearfest - wonder why....so if he leaves F1 where would he go?
Jean Todt has always been the 'quiet' one who got things done, wether or not he has achieved this in his current role is debatable
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Post by Carl on Sept 25, 2024 20:48:53 GMT
The colorful scenes of native boats, meant to convey an appreciation of history, actually show indigenous survivors of colonialism furiously rowing to escape David Croft's idiotic drone.
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Post by René on Sept 26, 2024 16:38:18 GMT
I took a short forum break, but I just read that Daniel Ricciardo is going to have a longer break. As expected, he will indeed be replaced by Liam Lawson for the rest of the season. Inevitable and it has actually been going on for too long I think. Daniel was no longer the driver we knew from his Red Bull period. I have personally never been a fan of his style, but it is an inglorious end to his Formula 1 career and that is a shame. But more drivers have left through the back door.  Liam Lawson already showed last year that he is made of the right stuff. I wonder how difficult he can make it for Yuki.  |
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Post by René on Sept 26, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
talking of moving on I for some reason didn't watch the Max swearfest - wonder why....so if he leaves F1 where would he go? As I understood it, his use of a swear word during the press conference was a protest against Ben Sulayem's suggestion to ban the use of swear words during the race over the radio. I think the latter is indeed ridiculous because you can either not broadcast it or bleep it away (as is already happening). Drivers are full of adrenaline so that can happen, although not all drivers do that. Whether it was such a smart move by Verstappen is questionable. Swearing during an official press conference, which millions of people listen to, including children, is simply rude. |
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Post by René on Sept 26, 2024 16:50:44 GMT
The colorful scenes of boats being rowed, meant to convey an appreciation of native culture, actually show Singaporeans furiously trying to escape David Croft's idiotic drone. I was wondering why they were rowing so fast. Now I know.  |
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Post by Carl on Sept 26, 2024 18:29:19 GMT
I took a short forum break, but I just read that Daniel Ricciardo is going to have a longer break. As expected, he will indeed be replaced by Liam Lawson for the rest of the season. Inevitable and it has actually been going on for too long I think. Daniel was no longer the driver we knew from his Red Bull period. I have personally never been a fan of his style, but it is an inglorious end to his Formula 1 career and that is a shame. But more drivers have left through the back door. Ricciardo's success grated on established goldenboy Sebastian "too bad" Vettel, darling of ecclestone and Red Bull high priest Helmut Vader. I think Daniel's potential was debased behind the scenes and not easily regained. |
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 27, 2024 8:44:23 GMT
Like Rene I was never a fan of Danny Ric, thought he was over-hyped.
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Post by chrisb on Sept 27, 2024 10:52:50 GMT
even I am prone to the occasional swear word or two when on the bike, so what it must be like for the likes of a racing driver gosh only knows, however, what Max has done just seems petulant, would Charles do that? I doubt it
So au revoir Daniel R - I was always a bit puzzled by him, some days he seemed the real deal - one race where he overtook loads of people efficiently and effectively and then just a number of lacklustre drives - I do hope he goes to WEC along with several other F1 drivers who are clearly towards the end of their careers and would definitely enhance WEC with their names.
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Post by mikael on Sept 27, 2024 15:37:22 GMT
Somehow, I liked the original idea of Toro Rosso/AlphaTauri/Visa-RB, that it was - and should be - mainly a means of bringing in (to F1) and testing "new", young talents. While it was tough and merciless in many ways, it was always fascinating to watch and to follow. However, for several seasons (in particular those when the team ran under the name "Scuderia AlphaTauri"), it was essentially converted to "just another midfield team". That wasn't very interesting, I'd say ...
Maybe the cause of this was actually the super-form of Max Verstappen (combined with the superiority of the Newey-designed Red Bull racers). Due to this, Red Bull just wanted stability - they didn't have the (immediate) need to look for "the next superstar".
But maybe things are now slowly returning to how they used to be ...?
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Post by Carl on Sept 27, 2024 16:58:17 GMT
Somehow, I liked the original idea of Toro Rosso/AlphaTauri/Visa-RB, that it was - and should be - mainly a means of bringing in (to F1) and testing "new", young talents. While it was tough and merciless in many ways, it was always fascinating to watch and to follow. However, for several seasons (in particular those when the team ran under the name "Scuderia AlphaTauri"), it was essentially converted to "just another midfield team". That wasn't very interesting, I'd say ...
Maybe the cause of this was actually the super-form of Max Verstappen (combined with the superiority of the Newey-designed Red Bull racers). Due to this, Red Bull just wanted stability - they didn't have the (immediate) need to look for "the next superstar".
But maybe things are now slowly returning to how they used to be ...?
A well written and reasoned analysis
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Post by Carl on Sept 27, 2024 17:02:14 GMT
Like Rene I was never a fan of Danny Ric, thought he was over-hyped. I agree that his personality was over-hyped.
He was the demon-braking Aussie with a huge smile who drank champagne from smelly shoes. |
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Post by mikael on Sept 27, 2024 20:32:27 GMT
The more I read about this affair (which on the surface appears to be merely a trifle), the more do I think that the present FIA president should be asked (or rather, ordered) to step down with immediate effect. Clearly he has no idea about the stress and strain that GP drivers are operating under. A man who (apparently) was a hero in Arabian rally, but completely out of his depth at the WRC level(*), he ought to be smart enough to stay humble - in particular among the twenty best racing drivers of the World.
Ralf Schumacher hits the nail on its head:
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Post by Carl on Sept 27, 2024 22:57:49 GMT
Certainly there are times when the twenty best drivers in the world are all in Formula One, but often also on the grid are lesser talents who pay and drivers past their prime but still attractive to sponsors, whose value to the team is more budgetary.
Chance always plays a part. Had James Hunt not seen and raved to Teddy Mayer about about a young Canadian who'd dominated Grand Prix drivers in a Formula Atlantic event, where would Gilles Villeneuve have gone? His talent was impossible to overlook, but immense talent is not a guarantee. Talented drivers not on anyone's radar in remote regional series who can no longer afford to race sadly walk away every year. Without a prominent venue, without a wealthy patron, Beethoven may have remained a supremely talented church organist in Bonn.
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Post by mikael on Sept 28, 2024 8:21:24 GMT
Carl,
I fully agree on your point.
The point I wanted to make was just that, In my opinion, the present FIA president can't hold a candle to anyone who has made it to Formula One; and so, he should refrain from trying to educate any of these young men in moral and manners.
Best,
M.
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Post by René on Sept 28, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
Carl,
I fully agree on your point.
The point I wanted to make was just that, In my opinion, the present FIA president can't hold a candle to anyone who has made it to Formula One; and so, he should refrain from trying to educate any of these young men in moral and manners.
Best,
M.
Definitely, he has to go. |
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