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Post by mikael on Oct 12, 2023 16:46:39 GMT
The main "turnoff" for me is the "mission control centers" and the radio-communication with the drivers. If the drivers thought about tyre conservation by themselves, and if the winner would win the race in "the slowest possible way" by his own initiative and not via radio-instruction, then everything would be fine :-)
But those things - radio communication and "mission control centers" - are here to stay, it seems. (And so are planned pit-stops.) So yes, the only way to make the races really exciting is probably to have each race conducted as consecutive "flat-out sprints" - in between the pit-stops (like it used to be at one time).
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Post by Carl on Oct 12, 2023 18:44:58 GMT
The younger Vestappen was sometimes wild when he thought he deserved to be in front and blocked others as though he was on a private drive. I remember his full speed assault on the chapel at St. Devote, sending rescue personnel scattering beyond the barrier. He drove fast and entitled. Nowadays, he seldom loses control, but I wonder how he would behave in a slower car.
I hadn't heard about a breakdown, but it's no coincidence this has happened at Red Bull. Sergio Perez isn't the first top-level driver whose confidence has eroded. Drivers in the past have sought therapy, but the pressure has to be immense at Red Bull, where team policy is contemptuous of number two drivers and ruthlessness the order of the day. When Helmut Marko greets second drivers, I doubt his smile reassures. There's only one golden child at Red Bull. Formula One has always been a crucible of pressure, and seems more so today with teutonic Red Bull and Mercedes leading the way. I doubt Logan Sargeant has any self-confidence remaining. He desperately needs a consistent race weekend to retain his seat, and even at Williams the pressure to perform is intense. I hope both drivers find what they need to regain confidence. |
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Post by robmarsh on Oct 13, 2023 7:19:13 GMT
The main "turnoff" for me is the "mission control centers" and the radio-communication with the drivers. If the drivers thought about tyre conservation by themselves, and if the winner would win the race in "the slowest possible way" by his own initiative and not via radio-instruction, then everything would be fine :-)
But those things - radio communication and "mission control centers" - are here to stay, it seems. (And so are planned pit-stops.) So yes, the only way to make the races really exciting is probably to have each race conducted as consecutive "flat-out sprints" - in between the pit-stops (like it used to be at one time).
I agree. In 1985 the race pace was limited by fuel capacity but the drivers had to manage it themselves. That was one of the best seasons in F1 despite the pace of the Mclarens. |
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Post by René on Oct 14, 2023 9:31:16 GMT
He drove fast and entitled. Nowadays, he seldom loses control, but I wonder how he would behave in a slower car. Yep, I think that will define his greatness and where he ranks in the all time lists. He has matured, he has learned, sure. But when things don't go his way, there's always this annoyed and sometimes aggressive reaction. Think back when he was asked to help Checo last year or even this season when his race engineer asks him to follow orders. But of course, it's difficult to argue with your driver if he keeps bringing those trophies home. But it is his entitlement that is on the one hand his strength but also puts people off I guess. A season where Red Bull has only the third or fourth best car would be interesting. |
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Post by chrisb on Oct 14, 2023 9:40:23 GMT
1985 was an incredible year, gosh, when you remember how Ayrton really confirmed his mastery of the wet at Portugal, as did Elio, often overlooked, post 1967 this was one of my favourite seasons. I do recollect how beautiful these cars looked, obviously the Lotus was by farrrrr the best looking one, in their beautiful black and gold,
As you say Carl, Max hasn't made many mistakes and is driving supremely and a measure of a driver is how well they cope with a poor car, aka Jimmy 1966, Ayrton 1993 and Lewis, I see the racer is questioning how long Max's dominance will last, that is entirely up to the others, as it is clear that he is the number one in his team, so expects no opposition from Checa, whose seat surely must be in jeopardy with Daniel looking optimistically at this seat and that may bring it's own problems.
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