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Post by René on Sept 18, 2023 18:24:59 GMT
I felt sorry for George Russell. He desperately wanted to challenge for the lead but was impeded by team strategy and could easily have had a better race left to his own devices. It was tough for him, sure. I do think that George underestimated one thing though; his will to win this race was strong but there was another man who was even more determined this day... |
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Post by René on Sept 18, 2023 18:27:20 GMT
Charles Leclerc ticks all the boxes as an ideal Ferrari driver. To be honest, I had less of that with Carlos Sainz. A good driver and a fantastic person to have in your team, without a doubt. But he didn't really awaken the Ferrari passion in me... until Monza two weeks ago and even more so with this fantastic victory in Singapore. What a class performance! Slowly but surely he conquers the hearts of the tifosi, the smooth operator.   |
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Post by Carl on Sept 18, 2023 20:38:05 GMT
I felt sorry for George Russell. He desperately wanted to challenge for the lead but was impeded by team strategy and could easily have had a better race left to his own devices. It was tough for him, sure. I do think that George underestimated one thing though; his will to win this race was strong but there was another man who was even more determined this day... Very possible, but only a head to head contest for the lead would have determined who was best that day.
If we ever race on Road America's go-kart circuit, even informed speculation will count for nothing against the checkered flag being waved (at me) by one of the Hawaiian Tropic ladies 
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 19, 2023 7:38:26 GMT
Forza Ferrari, pouvre Charles, sacrifice lamb? It wasn't that bad I believe because they talked about this before the race. And the idea worked the part. But Charles was unlucky a few times, first when he lost a place when he had to brake hard to avoid a collision in turn 1 and of course with the double stack pit stop. It was well executed but he had to hold because of traffic in the pit lane that cost him an extra two places. The car development has also take a direction that suits Carlos a bit more at the moment. But Charles will be fine and soon the first Ferrari champ since Kimi! Charles accepted his role before the race and it was Charles who decided to go on the soft tyres to make the strategy work. A perfect example of team above driver. |
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Post by René on Sept 19, 2023 18:39:16 GMT
It was tough for him, sure. I do think that George underestimated one thing though; his will to win this race was strong but there was another man who was even more determined this day... Very possible, but only a head to head contest for the lead would have determined who was best that day. If we ever race on Road America's go-kart circuit, even informed speculation will count for nothing against the checkered flag being waved (at me) by one of the Hawaiian Tropic ladies Just make sure you keep your eyes on the road when she's standing there waving that flag. |
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Post by Carl on Sept 19, 2023 19:39:21 GMT
Very possible, but only a head to head contest for the lead would have determined who was best that day. If we ever race on Road America's go-kart circuit, even informed speculation will count for nothing against the checkered flag being waved (at me) by one of the Hawaiian Tropic ladies Just make sure you keep your eyes on the road when she's standing there waving that flag. Never easy to do. She holds the checkered flag at a comfortable distance in case self-preservation demands retreat, as she learned in Austria after waving at Vittorio Brambilla
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 20, 2023 7:23:26 GMT
Just make sure you keep your eyes on the road when she's standing there waving that flag. Never easy to do. She holds the checkered flag at a comfortable distance in case self-preservation demands retreat, as she learned in Austria after waving at Vittorio Brambilla
There was a rumour going round for a short while afterwards that Vittorio crashed deliberately because his March was underweight and the crash would ensure nothing could be proved. I think that did him an injustice as the March had been pretty competitive for the previous four or five races. It was one of my favourite looking cars at the time. |
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Post by mikael on Sept 21, 2023 6:18:03 GMT
From this video it's evident how Brambilla drove extremely well on that day. See, for example,how he soars past James Hunt, from around 4:50.
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Post by René on Sept 21, 2023 9:00:35 GMT
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Post by Carl on Sept 21, 2023 16:40:32 GMT
Good point. Vittorio 'the Monza Gorilla' was perhaps not always taken seriously. Partly because of the finish of this race and his sometimes wild driving style and perhaps also because of his somewhat coarse appearance. But he could drive, particularly in the rain and seemed to have no fear.   I always liked Brambilla but not the cruel nickname given to him. He did have a special talent in the rain and may have been distracted in Austria by the early checkered flag shown to him.
It's likely everyone had access to the same Goodyear tyres, so his win was even more memorable. I love the expansion of the rear tyre at speed, in the above photograph.
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Post by robmarsh on Sept 21, 2023 17:29:41 GMT
I think around this time Goodyear were experimenting with a tyre technology similar to that used in drag racing where the tyre grew under acceleration and sort of catapulted the car.
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Post by René on Sept 21, 2023 18:43:01 GMT
Good point. Vittorio 'the Monza Gorilla' was perhaps not always taken seriously. Partly because of the finish of this race and his sometimes wild driving style and perhaps also because of his somewhat coarse appearance. But he could drive, particularly in the rain and seemed to have no fear. I always liked Brambilla but not the cruel nickname given to him. He did have a special talent in the rain and may have been distracted in Austria by the early checkered flag shown to him.
It's likely everyone had access to the same Goodyear tyres, so his win was even more memorable. I love the expansion of the rear tyre at speed, in the above photograph.
I don’t believe the nickname was meant so badly. I read he was kind of a rough guy and practical joker but people who knew him said he was a great friend. He was definitely one of a kind!    |
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Post by René on Sept 21, 2023 18:44:08 GMT
I think around this time Goodyear were experimenting with a tyre technology similar to that used in drag racing where the tyre grew under acceleration and sort of catapulted the car. I didn’t know that. Very cool! |
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Post by Carl on Sept 22, 2023 0:06:17 GMT
Brambilla was flamboyant and well liked by everyone. While he accepted the nickname with gracious good humor, it was based more on appearance than aggression (Max Verstappen and Romain Grosjean haven't been compared to apes). Although its origin predates him, it sounds like something "São Paulo sociopath" Nelson Piquet would enjoy.
The moral of the story: If you're given a simian nickname in good humor, smile and enjoy it. That's what I do when my girlfriend calls me a baboon.
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Post by René on Sept 22, 2023 8:44:34 GMT
While he accepted the nickname with gracious good humor, it was based more on appearance than aggression. If that was the case, then I agree that is not very nice. My assumption was based on this passage: Vittorio Brambilla, 11 November 1937 – 26 May 2001, was particularly adept at driving in wet conditions. His nickname was "The Monza Gorilla", due to his often overly aggressive driving style and sense of machismo. He was particularly known for his 'Punch and Crunch' routine, in which, he would greet the unfortunate victim with an extremely strong handshake. He enjoyed watching the recipient wince whilst they were shaking hands only to follow this up with a rabbit punch to the back of one's neck. sfcriga.com/vittorio-brambilla-monzas-gorilla |
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