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Post by charleselan on Apr 29, 2021 17:37:51 GMT
Watch it on the largest screen you have available and put the volume on 10! Heaven! Did that last night, amazing! If you look at the still image of the film on display you can see the shadow of the Insta360 on the thin boom just behind the car, they are small about the size of a matchbox. |
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Post by robmarsh on Apr 30, 2021 7:49:30 GMT
Magic
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Post by mikael on Apr 30, 2021 13:28:08 GMT
The drivers/teams in historic racing are really very creative w.r.t. camera mounting and onboard recording. I came across a couple of short films taken with helmet-mounted cameras, that (almost) give the impression of seeing exactly what the driver sees (or, in other words, of driving the car yourself). To have a microphone on the helmet (probably) also give a very different "image". The sound is great!
But another thing that these movies point out is ... they put into perspective how good the "superstars" / "real pro's" really are (or were) (like when comparing with the 1990 Senna onboard (at the Monaco GP), here at the bottom). It's like night and day! (Of course it's not surprising, but it's nice, nonetheless, to have it "spelled out" once in a while.)
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Post by Carl on Apr 30, 2021 17:33:56 GMT
The drivers/teams in historic racing are really very creative w.r.t. camera mounting and onboard recording. I came across a couple of short films taken with helmet-mounted cameras, that (almost) give the impression of seeing exactly what the driver sees (or, in other words, of driving the car yourself). To have a microphone on the helmet (probably) also give a very different "image". The sound is great!
But another thing that these movies point out is ... they put into perspective how good the "superstars" / "real pro's" really are (or were) (like when comparing with the 1990 Senna onboard (at the Monaco GP), here at the bottom). It's like night and day! (Of course it's not surprising, but it's nice, nonetheless, to have it "spelled out" once in a while.)
Mikael, Great clips! I was fooled by the Monaco Historic by glancing too fast and not noticing "Historic", so was puzzled why Hunt, who had qualified 7th*, was so far back and why Chris Amon, who hadn't started the actual Grand Prix, was there and just ahead on the starting grid! After several sips of coffee, my fog lifted and I really enjoyed the superb footage of the Hesketh being well driven. 
And Senna was always magic at Monaco!
Cheers, Carl
*I normally refer to qualifying order and brief race results on Wikipedia
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Post by mikael on Jun 30, 2021 19:59:22 GMT
Engineering masterpieces: Ferrari and Honda 1.5 L V12 engines (of 1965): just imagine ... merely 125 ccm per cylinder!
A 125 ccm motocross (two-stroke) engine piston (just to scale ...) |
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Post by Carl on Jul 1, 2021 2:00:33 GMT
Mikael, The beautiful photos you posted inspired a search for sound...
Wow! Cheers, Carl
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Post by chrisb on Jul 1, 2021 7:09:08 GMT
superb!! many thanks Mikael and Carl, my word weren't they just great, still think they were 500cc short of what they should have been notwithstanding that they really were exceptional and what a learning curve for so much and so many - I caught a clip of the Lotus 25 at Goodwood the other day and it sounded superb, love these cars
thanks chaps, really beautiful,
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Post by mikael on Jul 1, 2021 7:21:12 GMT
Amazing sounds indeed - thank you, Carl.
Yes, to be true, the Ferrari was/is not really a V12, but a "flat 12" (a completely flattened V, perhaps, as the layout is like a V-engine, but with an interior angle of 180 deg.).
When searching for the Brambilla citation yesterday, I came across the MSM special publication "Great Racing Cars", of 2015. (Hence my post.) Here, John Surtees stated that the 1965 Ferrari 1512 was his favorite Formula 1 car. To cite Surtees,
Yes, a fascinating little machine indeed.
If only contemporary F1 would have allowed some room for different ideas regarding the engine layout ... I'm quite certain that not everyone would have chosen a V6 layout. How nice it would have been with differently sounding engines ...
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Post by charleselan on Jul 1, 2021 13:24:46 GMT
All of the 1.5 litre Grand Prix cars were exquisite, absolute little jewels, and the developments that occurred in that era were profound in race car design of the future. It was a real shame that the formula ended so soon as things were moving at pace and the 12 cylinder cars from Ferrari and Honda were incredible. The Honda's development was amazing when considered, but i wonder how much can be attributed to that great development driver Richie Ginther, who once aboard took the car on in leaps right up to the great win in Mexico at the very last race in the formula. The Ferrari 1512 had terrific potential but from what I recall Lorenzo Bandini drove it far more than John Surtees who tended to run the older V8 car. John may have thought that it would have brought him great success had the formula continued, but he fails to remember that Coventry Climax had an amazing Flat 16 engine in development that was going to go in the back of the Lotus 39. That would have been a truly sensational car, the engine did exist but I have never heard of it being run. The Lotus 39 which was just an updated Lotus 33 did race in the Tasman series with a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder Coventry Climax engine fitted.   Above the Coventry Climax Flat 16 on the test bed, proving that it was actually run.  Above Jim Clark in the 1966 Tasman Lotus 39. |
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Post by mikael on Jul 1, 2021 18:00:29 GMT
JC,
I've never heard about that engine before, but it's a fascinating piece of machinery indeed; thank you for sharing. Yes, from a mechanics point of view, the 1960s were fascinating years.
Like the multi-cylinder small-displacement Road Racing/Grand Prix motorcycles of that era. Fascinating stuff too
Crankshaft/piston assembly for Honda's 1965 twin-cylinder 50 ccm 4-stroke Grand Prix racer. Note (from the piston cut-outs) that there are four valves per (25 ccm) cylinder!
Some interesting, related links:
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Post by charleselan on Jul 1, 2021 18:32:09 GMT
JC,
I've never heard about that engine before, but it's a fascinating piece of machinery indeed; thank you for sharing. Yes, from a mechanics point of view, the 1960s were fascinating years.
Like the multi-cylinder small-displacement Road Racing/Grand Prix motorcycles of that era. Fascinating stuff too
Crankshaft/piston assembly for Honda's 1965 twin-cylinder 50 ccm 4-stroke Grand Prix racer. Note (from the piston cut-outs) that there are four valves per (25 ccm) cylinder!
Some interesting, related links:
Absolutely Mikael, the Grand Prix motorcycles of that period were for me the absolute pinnacle of road racing with some truly outstanding machines like that 50cc twin cylinder Honda you have spoken of. |
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Post by mikael on Sept 19, 2021 20:54:37 GMT
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Post by mikael on Oct 18, 2021 21:18:57 GMT
A couple of nice commercial shots of the Ferrari 308 - with inspiring backgrounds ...
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Post by René on Oct 19, 2021 12:02:21 GMT
A couple of nice commercial shots of the Ferrari 308 - with inspiring backgrounds ... Fantastic photos! Childhood sentiment at its peak for me. The cars, but also the logos of Heuer, Agip, Magneti Marelli. I drew them all time after time. Ik can still draw them by heart.
I remember visiting a FIAT dealer with my parents who were looking for a new car. I was about 10/11 and had a Ferrari badge stitched on my jacket. While my father sat in a car, the salesman said that he had something nice for me and then he came back with two Ferrari brochures. One with an overview of the range and the other about the 308 GTB. I was very happy of course but it was also a clever way to please my parents.
I still have them both and apparently they are worth quite a bit now.
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Post by charleselan on Oct 19, 2021 12:43:34 GMT
Off course some of us will always associate the Ferrari 308 with Magnum PI and his "S" version.  Then there was the rally version that was quite successful on tarmac rallies like to Tour de Corse as pictured here in 1982, this is probably the best known version and driven by Jean Claude Andruet.  |
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