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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 21:43:48 GMT
Easy-peasy. What is this?
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Post by Carl on Dec 30, 2017 22:26:28 GMT
Easy suggests a Lotus 78 with Michelin tyres and Interscope accents, but your challenges are seldom easy. Difficult suggests the love-child of Colin Chapman and Bibendum... Is it a Penske PC4?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:41:57 GMT
Not the PC4, Carl. Not a Penske.
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Post by charleselan on Dec 30, 2017 23:58:33 GMT
It's a Formula Two Maurer from the elegant pen of Gustav Brunner, a beautiful thing it was too.
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Post by Carl on Dec 31, 2017 5:29:52 GMT
Not the PC4, Carl. Not a Penske. Lucio, I should have known by the four cylinders, but the width of the tyres in the illustration convinced me the power was at Grand Prix levels. My alternative, preposterous rationale is that I hesitated to steal John Charles' thunder, which is thunderous indeed
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Post by Carl on Dec 31, 2017 5:40:15 GMT
It's a Formula Two Maurer from the elegant pen of Gustav Brunner, a beautiful thing it was too. John Charles, It's very beautiful. What year was it current in Formula Two? We in America were only occasionally exposed to Formula Two, and always enough to whet the appetite for much more. There would be occasional pictures of Jochen Rindt in the lovely Brabham BT23 at which I would stare for long minutes, wanting to see more of the driver, the car and the series.
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Post by Jamie on Dec 31, 2017 8:46:24 GMT
Great post Lucio, I do enjoy those cut away drawings 👍
Great knowledge from JC there....I'd have got that it was an F2 but no more than that!
F2 was brilliant wasn't it, a proper engineering formula thats sadly no longer part of the junior single-seater scene. Most slicks and wings formula are spec cars now which is a real shame.
If ever I could own a single seater of provenance it would be March BMW 782 with Marc Surer's name on the side.....that car just looks right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:24:33 GMT
I was certain JC knew it. Admittedly, for someone in America not exposed to F2 it might not have been obvious. It's the Maurer MM82, I saw it race that year at Vallelunga, Bellof retired just in front of me. The Sunday morning I went around the paddock taking pictures of the cars, chassis, suspensions. The Marches were all aluminium monocoque construction, the Maurers were in composite materials, there was one chassis without engine sitting there and I took plenty of slides from all corners. The people there were a bit puzzled by my behaviour. They didn't know it was my passion and finally I did my dissertation on composite aircraft structures. He won the first two races of the season, but then couldn't sustain the challenge and Corrado Fabi on a works March won the championship. Beautiful car from Brunner:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:10:57 GMT
F2 was brilliant wasn't it, a proper engineering formula thats sadly no longer part of the junior single-seater scene. Most slicks and wings formula are spec cars now which is a real shame. If ever I could own a single seater of provenance it would be March BMW 782 with Marc Surer's name on the side.....that car just looks right. Oh yes, F2 was a great series. The 782 works cars, in BMW Polifac colours, were quite beautiful indeed. Despite Marc coming from round the corner from me (Liestal, Switzerland), my preference was Bruno Jack O'Malley.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:18:19 GMT
Great post Lucio, I do enjoy those cut away drawings 👍 Great knowledge from JC there....I'd have got that it was an F2 but no more than that! I have a "Who is he" ready, but you gave me an idea, before that, as the end is near (of the year!!). What is this? Who knows should also be able to tell who's the driver and where, which circumstance, it was taken:
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Post by charleselan on Dec 31, 2017 11:23:48 GMT
Absolutely Lucio. F2 at that time was in pretty rude health with some excellent teams and drivers running very competitively.
The Maurer was a lovely looking car, even a bit sinister in its black main colour. I believe that the owner of the team Willi Maurer made his money from a "custom" car wheel manufacturing business in Germany, very similar the Smidt of ATS. However although they never progressed to F1 the Maurer team were far more professional and of course had the burgeoning talent of Gustav Brunner.
There were also, of course, the white Maurer cars run by another German team in which Frank Jelinski made his name; he later went on to become a very good Group "C" and GTC driver.
As Jamie states those were the days with no boring "spec" series as a feeder to the top.
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Post by René on Dec 31, 2017 13:13:30 GMT
Great post Lucio, I do enjoy those cut away drawings 👍 Great knowledge from JC there....I'd have got that it was an F2 but no more than that! I have a "Who is he" ready, but you gave me an idea, before that, as the end is near (of the year!!). What is this? Who knows should also be able to tell who's the driver and where, which circumstance, it was taken: It's a Nova 532 BMW F2 with Kazuyoshi Hoshino behind the wheel. Certainly 1978, I believe at Rouen les Essarts. In all honesty, I had some help from Google to gather all the facts but the car did ring a bell. I first saw it in Dutch race magazine Autorensport (which no longer exists but I had a subscription for many years). I really liked the design as it looks really neat so that's why I remember it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 13:20:12 GMT
Jesus H, Rene!! As they say in Italy, "vita, morte e miracoli"! Very well. I have always been fascinated by Japanese cars and drivers of the '70s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 13:22:58 GMT
Surely you can tell who is he:
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Post by Jamie on Dec 31, 2017 14:13:55 GMT
I’m not sure but it looks a bit like de Montezemolo 😁
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