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Post by René on Jan 5, 2018 18:11:40 GMT
Thank you JC. I know about the MDF, it's a wonderful and 'easy' material to work with but you have to wear a dust mask while cutting and sanding and I did. My wife reminded me every time I worked on it!  Scalextric have made some wonderful models and certainly the classic Grand Prix models are gorgeous. Also the Ferrari T2 and McLaren M23 are really good. A shame the Lotus 72 was not their best. The Jochen Rindt car looks a bit like a dragster with its oversized rear wheels. But then came Policar and they made a nice 72! René you must always wear a good respirator when dealing with MDF, it is not good if you don't, safety first. It is a brilliant material for many applications as it is so smooth and flat, and can be shaped very well and then sealed, but the dust....... I have the T2 & M23 twin set, really lovely models, but as you say the Lotus 72 was a real let down and just plain sloppy with regard to accuracy, they even got the drivers head wrong on the Jochen Rindt model. I have it but bought at a big discount along with the truly excellent Cevert Tyrrell. I didn't purchase the Ronnie 72E as it looks so poor in my opinion, hopefully Polistil will produce that version sometime soon. Aye aye Sir! . But I know you're serious and I did wear a mask when working with the MDF. Policar made the 72D, Fittipaldi version, very beautiful. A small step you would think to make the 72E. |
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Post by René on Jan 5, 2018 18:14:00 GMT
just a quick question chaps, do you remember the Airfix racing track? obviously not as popular as the Scalextric but I do remember it was great fun Of course I remember the Airfix track. Didn't have it myself, I had Polistil and later Scalextric, but a friend of mine had Airfix. It was of his older brother. Great fun indeed!  |
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Post by charleselan on Jan 5, 2018 18:33:27 GMT
I am sure you did René, I was only emphasising how deadly that material is. I have seen the Fittipaldi Lotus 72D that Polistil have produced, but there are some serious changes needed for the 72E. They will make it and it will be fantastic, a must have for me. I understand that many guys like to collect the Airfix track and cars these days, it would be good to have a small set just for fun. I have a reasonable Scalextric track set which I have combined with my original rubber set; also i have a large amount of Aurora track and cars which a friend shared with me many years ago as he had a huge amount. So an Airfix set would go nicely with the other things; I like collecting all sorts of motor racing related material   . |
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Post by Carl on Jan 5, 2018 21:11:33 GMT
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Post by Carl on Jan 5, 2018 22:57:42 GMT
John Charles,
A few observations about the Standard/Triumph film:
Triumph must have either hoped for or correctly anticipated the great result, for as the film graphically declared: Three Triumphs entered / Three Triumphs finished! And highly placed too.
I always liked the big Triumphs, my cousin having taught me how to drive a manual transmission in his TR3A.
The Ferraris were awesome, particularly those "brave little Mexicans" as the narration describes los hermanos Rodriquez. Phil Hill and Olivier Gendebien were also fast and consistent and both cars deserved victory.
At one point, having mistaken the sandbank at Tertre Rouge for a competitor, Willy Mairesse vainly attempted to bump it off course.
I am looking forward to the Triumph film about its Spitfires in the 1965 race, featuring a very young David Hobbs. If it's as well done, it should be well worth watching.
Cheers, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Jan 5, 2018 23:19:20 GMT
It was a typically English film of the period, charming and beautifully portrayed. The Triumph success was very well deserved and illustrates what jolly good little cars they were. Am I correct in thinking that in America they refer to a manual gear change as a "stick shift"?What a superb car to learn how to do that driving technique, a Triumph TR3A, a truly lovely and for ever English open sports two seater of the early 1960's. I very nearly became the owner of a Triumph TR2 in 1970, would have been one of my first cars, but common sense prevailed and i decided on a fashionable (at the time) 105E Ford Anglia which as the year passed became more and more performance modified. Both cars incidentally would have come via my cousin,the grand father of MotoGP racer Scott. What a family . Back to the Triumph matter, I would dearly love to own a triumph TR4, my very favourite of that line, such wonderful and stylish looks. Sir JC (as Chris would have me described). |
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Post by Carl on Jan 6, 2018 0:12:42 GMT
Sir John Charles, Yes, the term for a floor mounted gear lever in America was "stick shift", also called "4 on the floor" until five speeds appeared. Devoid of any rhyme, "5 on the floor" was a nonstarter . My favorite Triumph models were the TR3A and, also my cousin's next one, a TR4A with IRS. I loved the door curves on the TR3A and how the hood (bonnet) curved over the headlights on the TR4s. Beautiful cars! For some reason, I was never as fond of Spitfires, maybe because I followed a friend in his one time and saw closeup how the swing axles swept down on as the rear end bounced! I was in my Sprite MkIII and glad to have a solid axle. When I thanked Rene for the new designation, I confided how happy I am to be knighted at last, having been turned away at the Buckingham Palace gates several times by an angry Prince Philip. Can there be two Princes of Wales? Surly Carl  |
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Post by René on Jan 6, 2018 0:28:43 GMT
Thanks for the links Sir Carl, great stuff! |
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Post by Carl on Jan 6, 2018 4:35:07 GMT
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Post by Jamie on Jan 6, 2018 9:42:02 GMT
What a model that is Carl....a stunning achievement. I think there is a li nk to a YT video of it running on one of our other threads somewhere, it even sounds right! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 10:13:25 GMT
I have long known the website Craftmanship Museum, in particular in this page: www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/modelmus.htmI am fascinated by the skills of Guillermo Rojas-Bazan and Young C. Park who scratcbuild masterpieces in aluminium. There is also Wingrowe, whom I have two books. I have done some Tamiya F1 1:12 and still have about eight or so untouched boxes in a garage in Italy. I don't have the time now, but my interest would be to do metal modelling, like an Arrows FA1 with the actual aluminium chassis fully detailed. I haven't found any books on aluminium modelling, I have a book on brass (Model building with brass), books on scratchbuilding locomotive engines in metal (4mm, HO 4-6-0, etc) and even a beautiful book on watchmaking (George Daniels). Plus books on ship/boat modelling and flying aircraft models. I knew about that 1/3 Ferrari prototype and I think I have seen somewhere of a Dutch guy who few years back finished an amazing half scale or so 917 fully working, engine an' all. |
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Post by René on Jan 6, 2018 10:48:17 GMT
Yes, I have seen this before and also the film where it shows the car running. It is amazing and totally insane! Thanks for the link, you can never see this enough! |
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Post by René on Jan 6, 2018 11:06:06 GMT
Thanks for the link Lucio, a very interesting page. It's mind blowing what some of these guys build. I have always loved model making. During my art school years I studied next to graphic design as a subsidiary subject industrial design. I did an internship at a model builder (maquette we call it) for architects and was actually quite good at that and even considered for a while to go further with it. This experience came in handy when doing my hobby stuff with the slot track and scratch building cars. But this is all nothing like these professionals build! |
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Post by charleselan on Jan 6, 2018 15:31:53 GMT
Sir Carl the real Prince of Wales, Great call on the Triumph TR range, pretty much my own thoughts regard to the styling on both the TR3A and the TR4. It was interesting to see that the TRS prototypes were nothing like the production cars and had glass reinforced plastic bodies. The Spitfire was an interesting one and did indeed have a somewhat strange rear axle design that wasn't conducive of swift driving. Your comment reminded me of an occasion back in the 1970's when I used to drive in convoy to race meetings wit a friend who had a Spitfire; I was in my Lotus Elan which was my everyday transport in those days. On the day in question we were on route to Silverstone and upon arrival my friend was somewhat shaken, as unknown to me he had encountered a serious "moment" going through a series of bends when trying to keep up with my Elan. It just illustrated the difference in the two vehicles as i had just been cruising along, and he was in white knuckle mode . Interesting fact is that both cars had many component parts derived from the Triumph Herald saloon car of the 1960's; however the Lotus had the brilliant Chapman inspired suspension system which made the difference. Sir JC |
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Post by charleselan on Jan 6, 2018 18:36:33 GMT
I am looking forward to the Triumph film about its Spitfires in the 1965 race, featuring a very young David Hobbs. If it's as well done, it should be well worth watching. Cheers, Carl Prince of Wales, This is equally, if not better than, the 1961 film. I did view it a few years ago but since then the quality of YT films have improved dramatically and are not so compressed which makes for even more enjoyable viewing. If anyone has any doubts as to why historic racing is booming then you just have to watch these two movies for they are absolutely stunning. Great to see a very young "Hobbo", even his mother was in the pits with him, and I had forgotten that the class winning Spitfire was co-driven by rally star Simo Lampinnen. I hope you do not mind Sir carl but I have attached the film directly to the site rather than linking to YT:- |
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