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Post by charleselan on Jan 20, 2020 16:47:05 GMT
I cannot even bring myself to watch BTCC on TV these days as it holds little appeal to me now, it isn't touring car racing as I remember it to be. I am aware that it has a good fan base however so it must be acceptable to some fans.
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Post by Carl on Jan 20, 2020 17:47:50 GMT
I cannot even bring myself to watch BTCC on TV these days as it holds little appeal to me now, it isn't touring car racing as I remember it to be. I am aware that it has a good fan base however so it must be acceptable to some fans. Like NASCAR, BTCC has been dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator, a category that offends and excludes the knowledgeable fan. If that's what racing has become, good riddance. |
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Post by chrisb on Jan 22, 2020 7:05:35 GMT
sadly too true Carl, again I can look back, not with rose-tinted specs but with respect to so many years of great saloon [sedan?] racing, again thank you to utub there is a documentary of saloon car racing [in 3 parts I think] narrated by the legendary Muddly Talker, who is held in such reverence and which starts off with Gentleman Jack and Tommy Sopwith's first championship and has interviews with the likes of Sir John Whitmore, who post racing went onto to be very respected and innovative around coaches, writing several books about them, I would like to find a book on Sir John, an amazing life, anyway I digress, if memory serves it also has Frank Gardiner, a gem that was so bright it dazzled and went all the way to the manufacturer laden era of multi millions and crash-bang-wallop but then for me too racing died it's death and 'entertainment' prevailed,, no longer even a spec of tea on my horizons but if people go and watch it and it is still on terrestrial TV then good luck to them,
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Post by charleselan on Jan 23, 2020 13:10:10 GMT
I cannot even bring myself to watch BTCC on TV these days as it holds little appeal to me now, it isn't touring car racing as I remember it to be. I am aware that it has a good fan base however so it must be acceptable to some fans. Like NASCAR, BTCC has been dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator, a category that offends and excludes the knowledgeable fan. If that's what racing has become, good riddance. I am no expert on either category these days Carl but I believe they both follow much the same directives with regard to standardised engines and chassis components. For me this is basically spec' series racing and as you so correctly mention dumbing down in all areas. I just have no time for this kind of thing as it ruins a major part of what racing series are all about, it is not just driver against driver but also manufacturer against manufacturer and that means differing engine designs etc. I tried watching BTCC a few years ago but it had nothing for me that i had seen in the past like drivers names I could relate to and serious factory support and involvement. The move to 2 litre cars in BTCC was not my idea of what should have happened but in all fairness it lead to a period of very competitive racing and with huge manufacture interest and support. However as they began to pull out the rot set in and we have what we have now with dodgem cars and contrived races to make things more interesting. |
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Post by chrisb on Jan 23, 2020 20:46:53 GMT
I call it boom bang a bang racing, I am surprised they have not fitted bit rubber rings around the cars, so they can bounce back, no wonder Historic racing is so popular
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Post by mikael on Jan 13, 2024 13:47:09 GMT
Denmark was covered completely in snow and ice a week ago (now it's clearing up, slowly); but I came to think about ice races - for Formule Vee - held in Denmark during some hard winters in the mid-1960's.
These races were modeled on ice (motorcycle) speedway, a sport I also find quite fascinating. "Paradoxically", the grip is much larger/better than on dirt - of course due to the spiked tyres - so the speeds (and especially the cornering speeds) are much higher. On ice, the bikes can be driven neatly through the corners - almost MotoGP-style - rather than "forced around sideways", as done on dirt. According to what I recall having heard about Formula Vee on ice, then, it was a pleasure to participate only if you were leading the field; otherwise, getting into a spray of ice was not very pleasant, to say the least ... Sorry about the quality of the photos; these old newspaper clip-outs are all I have (and apparently, there's nothing available on the web ... )
Ice speedway: the sport "Ice Formula Vee" was modeled on:
(PS: Maybe this post is under the wrong subject, as Formula Vee is still alive and well; still, the ice-version of it is not ...)
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Post by René on Jan 14, 2024 13:19:29 GMT
I always liked ice speedway but I've never seen it with Formula Vee's! That must have been cool to watch! Literally.  |
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