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Post by charleselan on Jul 2, 2018 12:27:46 GMT
While waiting for the start of the MotoGP race I had S*Y Sport F1 running on one of my computers and as they built up to the Austrian GP two really good "interviews" were shown. Elsewhere i have mentioned the excellent conversation between Sebastian Vettel and Ted Kravitz when they were in Canada, it was really good with Sebastian coming across so well. Following this they aired Martin Brundle speaking with both Keke and Nico Rosberg before and after they did their demo runs in Monaco in the respective cars that they used to win their World championships. It was compelling viewing with both father and son being in terrific form, and it appears that they have a great relationship, even if Nico did convey his impending retirement to Keke via his mother  . There were many great anecdotes from both Rosberg's but two that really resonated were Keke's comment that the current cars are about "six feet" longer than my Williams  , so good to see a past driver make that comment. Also another from Keke, referred to the fact that the William's mechanic could just wheel the FW08 out of the transporter and fire it up, whereas the Merc boys had to spend 3 hours fiddling with Nico's car before it was ready to start up, priceless!! One final comment that really brought the fragility of the past cars to mind came when Nico said that all his dad's car had to protect him was a sheet of aluminium, and that his legs were the front crash structure, seriously scary when viewed from a 21st century perspective. A great little film I urge anyone to watch if possible. |
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Post by chrisb on Jul 2, 2018 21:00:10 GMT
that sounds really great JC, I always like both Rosbergs, Keke no bull - where's the car and my cigarettes? his ability to handle excessive power was always fun to watch, I liked Nico at Williams and saw his potebtial there - was so pleased when he won his WDC, a thoroughly decent bloke and a Father who knew when to step back - class
well a piece of aluminium is a bit more protection than those monster two-strokes of the same time
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Post by Carl on Jul 2, 2018 22:01:18 GMT
While waiting for the start of the MotoGP race I had S*Y Sport F1 running on one of my computers and as they built up to the Austrian GP two really good "interviews" were shown. Elsewhere i have mentioned the excellent conversation between Sebastian Vettel and Ted Kravitz when they were in Canada, it was really good with Sebastian coming across so well. Following this they aired Martin Brundle speaking with both Keke and Nico Rosberg before and after they did their demo runs in Monaco in the respective cars that they used to win their World championships. It was compelling viewing with both father and son being in terrific form, and it appears that they have a great relationship, even if Nico did convey his impending retirement to Keke via his mother . There were many great anecdotes from both Rosberg's but two that really resonated were Keke's comment that the current cars are about "six feet" longer than my Williams , so good to see a past driver make that comment. Also another from Keke, referred to the fact that the William's mechanic could just wheel the FW08 out of the transporter and fire it up, whereas the Merc boys had to spend 3 hours fiddling with Nico's car before it was ready to start up, priceless!! One final comment that really brought the fragility of the past cars to mind came when Nico said that all his dad's car had to protect him was a sheet of aluminium, and that his legs were the front crash structure, seriously scary when viewed from a 21st century perspective. A great little film I urge anyone to watch if possible. John Charles, I found and thoroughly enjoyed the interview and demonstration run by father and son, a special moment available to no-one else. Cool!
One interesting aspect of the interview was how heavily accented Keke speaks English, although easily understood and at least he doesn't constantly say "yeah" like so many do today. 
Cheers, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 10:48:16 GMT
While waiting for the start of the MotoGP race I had S*Y Sport F1 running on one of my computers and as they built up to the Austrian GP two really good "interviews" were shown. Elsewhere i have mentioned the excellent conversation between Sebastian Vettel and Ted Kravitz when they were in Canada, it was really good with Sebastian coming across so well. Following this they aired Martin Brundle speaking with both Keke and Nico Rosberg before and after they did their demo runs in Monaco in the respective cars that they used to win their World championships. It was compelling viewing with both father and son being in terrific form, and it appears that they have a great relationship, even if Nico did convey his impending retirement to Keke via his mother . There were many great anecdotes from both Rosberg's but two that really resonated were Keke's comment that the current cars are about "six feet" longer than my Williams , so good to see a past driver make that comment. Also another from Keke, referred to the fact that the William's mechanic could just wheel the FW08 out of the transporter and fire it up, whereas the Merc boys had to spend 3 hours fiddling with Nico's car before it was ready to start up, priceless!! One final comment that really brought the fragility of the past cars to mind came when Nico said that all his dad's car had to protect him was a sheet of aluminium, and that his legs were the front crash structure, seriously scary when viewed from a 21st century perspective. A great little film I urge anyone to watch if possible. John Charles, I found and thoroughly enjoyed the interview and demonstration run by father and son, a special moment available to no-one else. Cool!
One interesting aspect of the interview was how heavily accented Keke speaks English, although easily understood and at least he doesn't constantly say "yeah" like so many do today.
Cheers, Carl
Yeah! Carl , sorry couldn't resist. Seriously I am really pleased that you also viewed the Rosberg film. It was excellent and must have been memorable for both father & son, and as you mention pretty unique. Keke's accent is typically Scandinavian, although I understand that like his well educated son, he is multilingual. His accent has a nice tone. Some other anecdotes I now recall from the film included Keke referring to his Williams FW08 as being like a Go-Kart compared to Nico's machine. Also when Martin Brundle asked Keke if he ever shouted out advice when watching Nico race on TV he initially said that he did not, and then with a chuckle after prompting from Nico admitted that he often did. Interestingly Nico was quite open about the fact that they were two totally different characters on track. As Chris mentions above it was to Keke's credit that he pulled back once Nico entered the "big time", no hanging around in the Pits for him. I think he said something like "the first time he (Nico) questioned my idea, that was the time to walk away and let him get on with things", always a smart customer Rosberg Snr. |
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Post by robmarsh on Jul 3, 2018 14:26:40 GMT
Keke Rosberg was brilliant as was his son. Both understated when out of the car. Keke was mega in 1983 with naturally aspirated Williams against the turbo cars. It is a pity he did not stay there for 1986.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 14:37:46 GMT
Keke Rosberg was brilliant as was his son. Both understated when out of the car. Keke was mega in 1983 with naturally aspirated Williams against the turbo cars. It is a pity he did not stay there for 1986. Absolutely Rob, Keke was one of my all time favourite drivers. A fearsome competitor with awesome car control and one of the best "overtakers" in the business, something he also mentions in this little film. I really liked Nico as well, much preferred him to his team-mate, a much more rounded human being. Keke should indeed have stayed at Williams in 1986, if he had i am certain he would have won another WC, but there was someone within that team he despised so he left. |
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Post by René on Jul 3, 2018 16:16:28 GMT
Great thread! The Rosbergs are both very symphatic and great racers. To add some pictures I did a quick research in my archive. Keke in the Wolf in 1979 at Zandvoort and in the Williams in 1982, also Zandvoort and signature he gave me in Zolder. Zolder 1984, Keke was in third position when he ran out of fuel in the last lap!  |
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Post by charleselan on Jul 3, 2018 16:47:24 GMT
Great photos René, and an autograph to cherish.
Zolder just as I remember it; wouldn't have fitted in with "half pints" way of thinking would it?
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Post by chrisb on Jul 3, 2018 21:00:33 GMT
great photo's Rene, I wasn't at Silverstone for 'that lap' and have hoped someone - somewhere has it filmed and it will eventually surface - but agree that had Keke stayed for 86 he would have cracked it again and that would be poetic for me, my fave race was the 1983 Monaco GP, sheer class,
I also feel Nico just oozed it, ok Nico had a privileged upbringing but when you look at a certain number of other drivers who also had privileged beginnings and one certain Canadian and how he acts and how Nico acted with Lewis and Michael come to that, never gloating never reducing himself to a level that wasn't good - class act- both retiring with dignity and respect
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Post by mikael on Jul 4, 2018 3:47:45 GMT
A very pleasant and interesting interview to watch. Interesting that it apparently is so much on Nico's mind to suggest a way to eliminate the "dirty air problem" (from 9:46). Some very interesting thoughts come "on the table".
It seems that the the problem can never be solved in a democratic way (for the reasons that Keke mention), that it can be solved only by a "dictator" (or, at least, a firm, strong-willed leader) who says, "this is how the new rules are going to be, and that's it!"
(Link to Nico Rosberg's YouTube postings:
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Post by René on Jul 4, 2018 9:54:47 GMT
Nico in his championship winning Mercedes W07. I made this photo at Silverstone 2016 at Luffield corner.
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Post by charleselan on Jul 4, 2018 10:41:51 GMT
Nico in his championship winning Mercedes W07. I made this photo at Silverstone 2016 at Luffield corner. That is a very good photograph René, as I know how difficult it must be to take anything meaningful at todays circuits and as a spectator not having the privileged positions offered to the Press. Even when I was doing it professionally from the late 1970's to early 90's there was a huge difference. However back in the 1970's it was still possible for a spectator too get good shots without the interruption of debris fencing and a distance from the cars. Brands Hatch was outstanding from that perspective and the attached shot is a case in point. I did not have a Press Pass for the 1982 GP, they were hard to obtain, and this shot of Keke in practice taken on the inside of Dingle Dell, using my Olympus OM1 35mm camera with a standard 50mm lens. Probably using too fast a shutter speed which makes it look as though Keke was cruising, he wasn't!  |
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Post by charleselan on Jul 4, 2018 11:08:44 GMT
A very pleasant and interesting interview to watch. Interesting that it apparently is so much on Nico's mind to suggest a way to eliminate the "dirty air problem" (from 9:46). Some very interesting thoughts come "on the table".
It seems that the the problem can never be solved in a democratic way (for the reasons that Keke mention), that it can be solved only by a "dictator" (or, at least, a firm, strong-willed leader) who says, "this is how the new rules are going to be, and that's it!"
(Link to Nico Rosberg's YouTube postings:
Brilliant Mikael, and thank you for the link. I had no idea that it was on YouTube and having just viewed it for a second time and with a lengthier interview than which was aired on Saturday last I have picked up so many wonderful bits. It really was a superb interview by Martin Brundle, he was at his very best and so much better than those dire grid walks. The whole atmosphere was sublime and heart warming. Usually on YouTube the comments are acidic and rude, but for this one they were some of the best I have ever read, so much respect for both Rosberg's and rightly so. Having heard it once more Keke's accent sounded like an older more erudite Kimi; and Nico is just a great lad. |
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Post by René on Jul 4, 2018 13:02:17 GMT
Nico in his championship winning Mercedes W07. I made this photo at Silverstone 2016 at Luffield corner. That is a very good photograph René, as I know how difficult it must be to take anything meaningful at todays circuits and as a spectator not having the privileged positions offered to the Press. Even when I was doing it professionally from the late 1970's to early 90's there was a huge difference. However back in the 1970's it was still possible for a spectator too get good shots without the interruption of debris fencing and a distance from the cars. Brands Hatch was outstanding from that perspective and the attached shot is a case in point. I did not have a Press Pass for the 1982 GP, they were hard to obtain, and this shot of Keke in practice taken on the inside of Dingle Dell, using my Olympus OM1 35mm camera with a standard 50mm lens. Probably using too fast a shutter speed which makes it look as though Keke was cruising, he wasn't! Thanks JC. Certainly at F1 races it is virtually impossible to make good pictures unless when you're on a grandstand where you can see the cars coming towards you. This was the case at Luffield and the speed was relatively low. But you're absolutely right, it used to be so much easier with lower fences and more access around the track. That is a wonderful picture of Keke in FW08! My goodness, how unprotected they were back then sitting so much to the front in such a tiny car. Looks cool though!  |
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Post by René on Jul 4, 2018 13:05:34 GMT
A very pleasant and interesting interview to watch. Interesting that it apparently is so much on Nico's mind to suggest a way to eliminate the "dirty air problem" (from 9:46). Some very interesting thoughts come "on the table".
It seems that the the problem can never be solved in a democratic way (for the reasons that Keke mention), that it can be solved only by a "dictator" (or, at least, a firm, strong-willed leader) who says, "this is how the new rules are going to be, and that's it!"
(Link to Nico Rosberg's YouTube postings: Brilliant Mikael, and thank you for the link. I had no idea that it was on YouTube and having just viewed it for a second time and with a lengthier interview than which was aired on Saturday last I have picked up so many wonderful bits. It really was a superb interview by Martin Brundle, he was at his very best and so much better than those dire grid walks. The whole atmosphere was sublime and heart warming. Usually on YouTube the comments are acidic and rude, but for this one they were some of the best I have ever read, so much respect for both Rosberg's and rightly so. Having heard it once more Keke's accent sounded like an older more erudite Kimi; and Nico is just a great lad. Yes, that interview is very good. Both great ambassadors for the sport and really nice blokes. Nothing fake or posh about them. Great stuff! Thanks Mikael for the link. |
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, so good to see a past driver make that comment. Also another from Keke, referred to the fact that the William's mechanic could just wheel the FW08 out of the transporter and fire it up, whereas the Merc boys had to spend 3 hours fiddling with Nico's car before it was ready to start up, priceless!!
