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Post by chrisb on Dec 23, 2020 9:35:03 GMT
Carl you really are a star, thank you so much for this, I will watch it later on
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Post by Carl on Dec 23, 2020 22:17:11 GMT
I will record a movie being shown a few days hence on a cable movie channel. A Roger Corman film, I expect it will be pretty awful but might be saved by the appearances of Jim Clark and Bruce McLaren. Carl,
thank you very much for the link. I have, so far, just browsed through the movie. Regardless of the quality of the story and the acting, the embedded real Grand Prix footage is certainly excellent.
Mikael, Yes, I really enjoy the Grand Prix footage (the overhead shot of the start at Spa is great), and look forward to watching on my widescreen television! But I've found one curious anomaly: for more than a minute starting at 1:00:07, near the end of the French Grand Prix at Rheims, several backmarkers appear to spin in Turn 7 at Riverside!
Only in Hollywood...  Cheers, Carl |
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Post by charleselan on Dec 24, 2020 16:26:31 GMT
I watched the first ten minutes or so very early this morning and the real footage from the 1962 Monaco GP was good although I feel somewhat speeded up and the tyre squealing was annoying. There have over the years been some truly terrible films about motor racing and this is no exception, but the real action is excellent.
What needs to be done is extract all the real footage from the film and splice it together to make a nice historical feature.
Am I correct in thinking that the guy playing the somewhat obnoxious lead character was once in a TV series called "Cannonball" about two truckers, I have a feeling he played the "drivers mate"?
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Post by Carl on Dec 24, 2020 18:46:18 GMT
I watched the first ten minutes or so very early this morning and the real footage from the 1962 Monaco GP was good although I feel somewhat speeded up and the tyre squealing was annoying. There have over the years been some truly terrible films about motor racing and this is no exception, but the real action is excellent. What needs to be done is extract all the real footage from the film and splice it together to make a nice historical feature. Am I correct in thinking that the guy playing the somewhat obnoxious lead character was once in a TV series called "Cannonball" about two truckers, I have a feeling he played the "drivers mate"? Roger Corman specialized in fast and cheap horror and biker films, but had real talent he learned to ignore and was admired among the French New Wave. He directed the original "Little Shop of Horrors" which featured a very young Jack Nicholson in a supporting role and "The Raven" a delightful comedy-horror classic starring Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, Peter Lorre and a wonderful Basil Rathbone, whose senile character the others kept trying to kill or bury alive, but would always regain consciousness and loudly demand, "What place is this?"
This movie is par for the course Roger Corman, with little money spent on any aspect of production. Some of his great titles from the 50s are "Swamp Women", "Attack of the Crab Monsters", "Teenage Cave Man" and "Wasp Woman". No matter the plot, his film posters usually included a voluptuous half-naked woman in danger.
You may be thinking of the well done 1970s drama about long-distance truck drivers called "Movin' On". The actors were Claude Akins and Frank Converse.
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Post by Carl on Dec 24, 2020 19:05:28 GMT
Carl you really are a star, thank you so much for this, I will watch it later on The actual racing scenes are great, but watch out for bad writing and off-camber acting  |
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Post by charleselan on Dec 24, 2020 19:42:17 GMT
I watched the first ten minutes or so very early this morning and the real footage from the 1962 Monaco GP was good although I feel somewhat speeded up and the tyre squealing was annoying. There have over the years been some truly terrible films about motor racing and this is no exception, but the real action is excellent. What needs to be done is extract all the real footage from the film and splice it together to make a nice historical feature. Am I correct in thinking that the guy playing the somewhat obnoxious lead character was once in a TV series called "Cannonball" about two truckers, I have a feeling he played the "drivers mate"? Roger Corman specialized in fast and cheap horror and biker films, but had real talent he learned to ignore and was admired among the French New Wave. He directed the original "Little Shop of Horrors" which featured a very young Jack Nicholson in a supporting role and "The Raven" a delightful comedy-horror classic starring Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, Peter Lorre and a wonderful Basil Rathbone, whose senile character the others kept trying to kill or bury alive, but would always regain consciousness and loudly demand, "What place is this?"
This movie is par for the course Roger Corman, with little money spent on any aspect of production. Some of his great titles from the 50s are "Swamp Women", "Attack of the Crab Monsters", "Teenage Cave Man" and "Wasp Woman". No matter the plot, his film posters usually included a voluptuous half-naked woman in danger.
You may be thinking of the well done 1970s drama about long-distance truck drivers called "Movin' On". The actors were Claude Akins and Frank Converse.
Nope Carl, I wasn't thinking of "Moving' On" I was thinking of "Cannonball" a program I watched every time it was shown as I was more interested in trucks (Lorries in the UK) than anything due to my dad being a long distance lorry driver. I was in awe of those American rigs as they were so different from the usual English 1950's lorries like Foden; ERF and Bedford etc. The one thing that stood out were the large high exiting smoke stack exhausts, I just loved them. |
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Post by Carl on Dec 25, 2020 6:31:48 GMT
John, We both may be justified in what we recall. From an earlier discussion at the round table, I remember that your father drove long distance lorries and your love of the high-rise exhausts, which I share. I have a good memory and was unable to understand why I didn't recall "Cannonball", a program that would certainly have drawn my interest. As you know, it concerned long distance truck drivers and co-starred William Campbell, one of the stars of "The Young Racers", but it may never have been shown locally in Los Angeles. A 1958-59 British/Canadian production, it was shown on established networks in Canada and the United Kingdom, but syndicated in America. In the late 1950s, American networks had started syndicating their own re-runs to bolster profit and there was little room for independent syndication in the L.A. television market. Many period GMC big rigs were called "Cannonball"
 A restored model 950 
Research is hard work. No wonder Sherlock Holmes was drawn to narcotics!
Cheers, Carl
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Post by charleselan on Dec 25, 2020 11:32:08 GMT
That would account for you not instantly getting my reference Carl, I always thought that these series aired on UK TV were all from the USA and not in some way convoluted in how they got to the British Isles.
Those photos of the GMC trucks are superb especially the red restored version, I just loved the look of the big bullnose which in some ways was like a very large version of the British Bedford. The smoke stack exhausts were such an amazing looking feature. In some ways I can see that they were far better than the low level ones on the English vehicles which exited all their pollution straight into the path of pedestrians etc, but then again it was all going into the atmosphere anyway.
As soon as i noticed the lead character in the film thought that he looked familiar and without any reference thought of the character Gerry in "Cannonball". That is the problem with someone who has an almost photographic memory; sixty odd years ago and I still remember, that is frightening.
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Post by Carl on Dec 25, 2020 17:42:28 GMT
Carl you really are a star, thank you so much for this, I will watch it later on The actual racing scenes are great, but watch out for bad writing and off-camber acting Although the dialogue and acting are soap operatic, this is one of Roger Corman's better films. A mystery remains about the absence of Jim Clark and Bruce McLaren, both listed in the cast as playing themselves. Those brief scenes must have been removed during editing for cable television.
As John mentions, certain racing scenes were sped up and tyre squealing added to irritate motorsport enthusiasts and impress the general audience. To its credit, "The Young Racers" doesn't dwell on belabored explanations of the sport, a frequent annoyance in "Grand Prix", which otherwise is the much better film.
Dan Gurney is never mentioned but appears for a moment all by himself in his Porsche on the cobblestone hairpin at Rouen.
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Post by charleselan on Dec 25, 2020 19:40:33 GMT
The actual racing scenes are great, but watch out for bad writing and off-camber acting Although the dialogue and acting are soap operatic, this is one of Roger Corman's better films. A mystery remains about the absence of Jim Clark and Bruce McLaren, both listed in the cast as playing themselves. Those brief scenes must have been removed during editing for cable television.
As John mentions, certain racing scenes were sped up and tyre squealing added to irritate motorsport enthusiasts and impress the general audience. To its credit, "The Young Racers" doesn't dwell on belabored explanations of the sport, a frequent annoyance in "Grand Prix", which otherwise is the much better film.
Dan Gurney is never mentioned but appears for a moment all by himself in his Porsche on the cobblestone hairpin at Rouen.
Carl, I noticed that at the beginning of the film the lead character was based on Jim Clark at Monaco (that is visually with regard to the car and what Jim wore helmet wise). In the film he is supposed to have won, but as we know Bruce McLaren was victorious in his Cooper. At the end of the race in the film the winner is seen coming to a halt and is in a Lotus 24, whereas in the race Jim was driving the very new Lotus 25, they had the helmet style quite accurate however. John |
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Post by Carl on Dec 26, 2020 3:42:49 GMT
Although the dialogue and acting are soap operatic, this is one of Roger Corman's better films. A mystery remains about the absence of Jim Clark and Bruce McLaren, both listed in the cast as playing themselves. Those brief scenes must have been removed during editing for cable television.
As John mentions, certain racing scenes were sped up and tyre squealing added to irritate motorsport enthusiasts and impress the general audience. To its credit, "The Young Racers" doesn't dwell on belabored explanations of the sport, a frequent annoyance in "Grand Prix", which otherwise is the much better film.
Dan Gurney is never mentioned but appears for a moment all by himself in his Porsche on the cobblestone hairpin at Rouen.
Carl, I noticed that at the beginning of the film the lead character was based on Jim Clark at Monaco (that is visually with regard to the car and what Jim wore helmet wise). In the film he is supposed to have won, but as we know Bruce McLaren was victorious in his Cooper. At the end of the race in the film the winner is seen coming to a halt and is in a Lotus 24, whereas in the race Jim was driving the very new Lotus 25, they had the helmet style quite accurate however. John John, I noticed that also and have begun to suspect an ususual compensation scheme was negotiated by the wily Colin Chapman and John Cooper. Normally, only those who have any spoken lines receive cast credit, but it makes sense that these two drivers and their teams should be paid for their images and names, but since I don't recall Jim Clark ever being named, Chapman may have driven the harder bargain!
I hope Bruce McLaren, whose name was bandied about from Monaco to Aintree, was fairly rewarded by Cooper, but I doubt he was.
-Carl
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Post by chrisb on Jan 1, 2021 11:20:06 GMT
not quite a film but apparently there are some new documentaries on Motorsport TV,
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Post by mikael on Jan 23, 2021 13:21:06 GMT
Not sure if this post is quite at the right place; still, I chose to place it here ...
I've read that the French stunt driver Rémy Julienne past away this week (21 Jan. 2021), from Covid-19, at the age of 90.
The Wikipedia page tells that he was a former racing driver (rally cross), and further back, in the mid-50's, a motocross rider. He was widely used in the early James Bond movies, and in many other action movies.
It's always fascinating to watch stunt driving (car chases, etc.) in the movies of the 60's and 70's, because you know it was real - and really dangerous. Nowadays, with the advancements in digital technologies, you never know, and in most cases, it's virtual, it's something that has been pieced together with the aid of a computer.
Here is a wonderful cavalcade that gathers some of the stunt drives of Rémy Julienne:
Youtube link: |
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Post by mikael on Feb 11, 2024 14:18:08 GMT
Came across this nice cinema movie promotion flyer when trying to sort piles of paper ... (I'm the type of person who is hesitant in throwing anything away ...)
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Post by René on Feb 11, 2024 22:46:39 GMT
Looks cool! Glad you didn’t throw it away!   |
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